Obscure British Manufacturers.

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nicanary

9,809 posts

147 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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This must be it. Never knew it existed. Saxmundham in 1974 was a place where they still had witch-hunts and you married your cousin. Trust me, I came from those parts.

piper

295 posts

269 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Yep that is the car, I remember seeing a picture of the spceframe chassis in Motor magazine when they did a piece on the car, it was very complex, I think the gearbox was Hewland based with VW internals.

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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crossley burney streamline

esso

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1,849 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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tali1 said:
crossley burney streamline
That`s an interesting car.....do you have any more info on it?

davepen

1,460 posts

271 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I'm sure there was something in the Vintage Alvis by Hull and Johnson about the prototype using a FWD Alvis as a starting point. The wikipedia page repeats this.

NLB

375 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Another Coventry based manufacturer - the immortal Cluley. There is one in the Coventry Transport Museum, which I keep meaning to go to look at, as it used to belong to my father. I think there are only about seven left.

http://www.transport-museum.com/aboutthemuseum/cov...

It was his daily transport when he was at university in the early '50s, until he went up-market and high-powered with the purchase of a 1926 Vauxhall 14/40, which remained his daily driver until around the time I arrived in the late '50s. His take on such vehicles was that he'd grown up with Meccano, and these old cars were basically big Meccano sets that could sometimes provide transport as a side benefit.

There is a short write-up of the Cluley by him in the fantastic book "Halcyon Days" by Rodney Dale:

http://www.fernhouse.com/book-pages/halcyondays.ht... - by the way, this book is a must-read for any fan of old cars. Rodney Dale and his dad ran all sorts of things, including Ghosts and an 8-litre Bentley, as cheap everyday transport, in the '50s.

There is a brief extract on the Cluley here:

http://www.fernhouse.com/book-pages/hd19262.html

The Cluley remained a by-word for eccentric and probably dubious engineering as far as my father was concerned until the end of his life, although it had also given him enormous fun, and cheap transport quite often. The 14/40, on the other hand, he always spoke highly of, and its departure in awkward circumstances remained one of those subjects to be avoided... Pre-GM Vauxhalls were a little different from the later crop, of course.




Old Merc

3,494 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Interesting NLB,All I can find is information and images of 20`s Cluley`s,apparently the Coventry factory was bombed in 1940 and they built a new one in Kenilworth.Unfortunately I can not find any onfo or images on post war Cluley`s.

Dave Dax builder

662 posts

260 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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tali1 said:
crossley burney streamline
Jees! It's a Cockroach.

NLB

375 posts

210 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Old Merc said:
Interesting NLB,All I can find is information and images of 20`s Cluley`s,apparently the Coventry factory was bombed in 1940 and they built a new one in Kenilworth.Unfortunately I can not find any onfo or images on post war Cluley`s.
Lovely ad, isn't it. "Electric lighting and starting in each case... from 5-45 mph on top gear..."... and, of course, the necessity to point out that such a vehicle was aimed at the owner-driver.

I think that is probably the model that my father owned... the Coventry Museum website has an entry for their (and his old) Cluley giving it as a 1923 Model 10/10.

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dartissimus

939 posts

175 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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This is a Leyat, (Not British , but French) apparently they could be seen driving up & down the Champs Elysee in the 1920's. The driver/pilot or pilote get splattered with engine oil.

nicanary

9,809 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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tali1 said:
crossley burney streamline
It was built in the infamous "Jam factory" in Maidenhead, home of many a hopeless cause. A book was written once about the premises, because of the number of car makers who set up there and then died a death.

The prototype had an Alvis engine which would have been underpowered at 1481 cc, but the ones made for sale had 3=litre Beverley-Barnes , 3.2-litre Armstrong-siddeley or 4.4-litre Lycoming engines. They only built 12, and then sold the rights to Crossley, who built 24 with their own 2-litre engine, with the radiator moved to the front.

An early attempt at streamlining, and the long wheelbase meant for a comfy ride.

RichB

51,648 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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nicanary said:
It was built in the infamous "Jam factory" in Maidenhead, home of many a hopeless cause. A book was written once about the premises, because of the number of car makers who set up there and then died a death.
Never heard of this place where was it? Do you know the title of the book, living in Maidnehead I'd find that interesting. I wonder if it was the same place that the Marendaz, which mentioned them earlier in this thread, was built.

nicanary

9,809 posts

147 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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RichB said:
Never heard of this place where was it? Do you know the title of the book, living in Maidnehead I'd find that interesting. I wonder if it was the same place that the Marendaz, which mentioned them earlier in this thread, was built.
Spot on. The book was called "Lost Causes of Motoring" and was written by Lord Montagu. I think there is a whole chapter devoted to the Jam Factory. and the other chapters would interest forum members who like this thread.

I'm pretty sure the Marendaz was one of the other makers who rented the place at some time; I had the book many years ago, and I see that there are some on Abe Books at about £15.



























RichB

51,648 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Thank you. Do you happen to know who made jam there before it was a car factory?

ETA - Google reveals it was the St. Martin's Jam Factory on the Cordwallis Industrial Estate. Never heard of St. Martin's Jams myself... Factory was hot by a flying bomb in 1944.

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Old Merc

3,494 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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DMZ Marendaz Ltd was reformed as Marendaz Special Cars and moved to Cordwalles Works Maidenhead in 1932.
Where GWK and Burney cars were also built.
This is a 1934 Marendaz at the Haynes Motor Museum

Old Merc

3,494 posts

168 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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I don`t think a 2cylinder GWK would keep up with a Marendaz!!

tali1

5,267 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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jenard jabeeka - only 1 built





nicanary said:
tali1 said:
crossley burney streamline
It was built in the infamous "Jam factory" in Maidenhead, home of many a hopeless cause. A book was written once about the premises, because of the number of car makers who set up there and then died a death.

The prototype had an Alvis engine which would have been underpowered at 1481 cc, but the ones made for sale had 3=litre Beverley-Barnes , 3.2-litre Armstrong-siddeley or 4.4-litre Lycoming engines. They only built 12, and then sold the rights to Crossley, who built 24 with their own 2-litre engine, with the radiator moved to the front.

An early attempt at streamlining, and the long wheelbase meant for a comfy ride.

F355spider

1,395 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th September 2012
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Ketterings only car maker Owen Robinson produced this Robinson. As a kid i used to go round my mates house whose dad had a collection of this Robinson an Overlander and a De Dion Bouton with a Healey 3000 as his wifes shopping car! The cars often competed in the London - Brighton etc.

The Robinson now resides in Kettering museum


coppice

8,638 posts

145 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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A word on Marendaz; in the mid 70s I was a very green trainee solicitor with Lincolnshire County Council; I was given a trading standards case to deal with and the compalainant was none other than Captain DMK Marendaz . He lived in a very large house out on the Lincs Wolds - Asterby Hall ?- and he would pen these utterly bonkers letters about how he had been ripped off.If I recall correctly he'd bought a 250 Merc secondhand years before and because some tiny fault had appeared he wanted the Council to throw the book at the garage who sold it to him. Frequent referemce was made to the legendary qualities of the mighty Marendaz special. I later found out that the poor old bugger had been banned from the public libraries because of his rather patrician belef that the library service was a sort of free bookshop; he'd order lots of esoteric and expensive tomes and they would never be seen again. If challenged the toff charm disappeared and was replaced by an utterly vile and abusive temper.

nicanary

9,809 posts

147 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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coppice said:
A word on Marendaz; in the mid 70s I was a very green trainee solicitor with Lincolnshire County Council; I was given a trading standards case to deal with and the compalainant was none other than Captain DMK Marendaz . He lived in a very large house out on the Lincs Wolds - Asterby Hall ?- and he would pen these utterly bonkers letters about how he had been ripped off.If I recall correctly he'd bought a 250 Merc secondhand years before and because some tiny fault had appeared he wanted the Council to throw the book at the garage who sold it to him. Frequent referemce was made to the legendary qualities of the mighty Marendaz special. I later found out that the poor old bugger had been banned from the public libraries because of his rather patrician belef that the library service was a sort of free bookshop; he'd order lots of esoteric and expensive tomes and they would never be seen again. If challenged the toff charm disappeared and was replaced by an utterly vile and abusive temper.
My reading of the history books suggest that he was a bit of a charlatan. A guy not to buy a used car from.