Lancia Beta Volumex

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anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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The asking price is full, and you would need to give the car a careful going over at that money. It looks spiffy but might have gremlins untold. It has been off the road for a while and may have the usual car standing about issues that an MoT will not reveal.

If good, it will be an electrifying drive with the VX engine and the shorter wheelbase.

Evo

3,462 posts

254 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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edh said:
Breadvan72 said:
Another Volumex pops up on eBay. Common as muck, they are.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1985-LANCIA-COUPE-BETA-V...
That one looks very nice - always wanted a Volumex coupe
That looks very tidy indeed

gforceg

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3,524 posts

179 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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I blame BV for this recent rash of VXs and other Lampredi Lancias coming out of the shadows. Or it could be this thread. Oh...

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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I only like cars that are very rare, so at this rate I will have to bin Betas. The place is crawling with them.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
The asking price is full, and you would need to give the car a careful going over at that money. It looks spiffy but might have gremlins untold. It has been off the road for a while and may have the usual car standing about issues that an MoT will not reveal.

If good, it will be an electrifying drive with the VX engine and the shorter wheelbase.
A friend saw this car a year or so ago whilst buying some parts from the owner, he reckons it isn't restored all that well and not worth that kind of cash. I don't actually think that if it was mint the price is full, it's anybody's guess what a really good vx coupe could sell for the last one went for about 6 grand but that was before classic car price inflation set in, most vx advertised need quite significant work

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Friday 6th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Given that there were under 400 Volumexes sold in the UK (from memory, something like 180 ish HPEs and 150 ish Coupes), the survivor rate doesn't seem as bad as you might at first expect. I am sure that more than 400 1300 Coupes were sold in the UK, (although Lancia did not sell many RHD coupes in that engine size, the 1600s and 2000s being far more in demand), but there are only known to be four of them on the road, one of which I own. Number of projects and barn dwellers and scrapyard lurkers unknown. I pay no attention to that useless how many left site, as it is always wrong about everything.
I don't think howmanyleft is always wrong you just have to interpret the data correctly and know the wrinkles in the dvla data and model descriptions, as regard to volumexes there are two model descriptions for the same cars so to get numbers you need to look for coupe 2000 vx, hpe 2000vx, hpe volumex and coupe volumex quite why there are two different descriptors for the same car is anybody's guess. The figures you see will be cars either taxed or on sorn there will also be a small proportion of cars that were stashed away prior to the sorn requirement and cars in the hands of dealers.

The figures suggest that there are approx 30 hpe and 45 to 50 coupe surviving, this makes sense as the hpe was just so damn useful most were driven completely into the ground.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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This is how my vx looked just before I took it off the road despite being shiny the deeper I dug the worse it got...... Body is near enough fixed now just needs stripping to bare metal and minor imperfections correcting before respray (when I can afford it), engine still in bits and only the dash is still in the car.

POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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DELTAHPE said:


This is how my vx looked just before I took it off the road despite being shiny the deeper I dug the worse it got...... Body is near enough fixed now just needs stripping to bare metal and minor imperfections correcting before respray (when I can afford it), engine still in bits and only the dash is still in the car.
Really stylish car imo

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Lancia's sales tag line was "The most Italian car". There was a lot of truth in that, right down to the dodgy (German) electrics!

A great piece of styling, and by the in house dudes, not one of the famous name design studios. Arguably, the Zagato penned Beta Spider was the least well favoured of all the Betas.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 7th June 21:45

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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RE in house styling dudes: IIRC, the Rover SD1, that beautiful thing, was an in house design, albeit something of a Pininfarina rip off.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Saturday 7th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Lancia's sales tag line was "The most Italian car". There was a lot of truth in that, right down to the dodgy (German) electrics!

A great piece of styling, and by the in house dudes, not one of the famous name design studios. Arguably, the Zagato penned Beta Spider was the least well favoured of all the Betas.

Edited by Breadvan72 on Saturday 7th June 21:45
It was styled by pininfarina then thrown together by zagato hence the dodgy build, coupes are a lot better

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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I had forgotten that. Not one of Pininfarina's best efforts, IMO. When Zagato made the design scheme bigger in the Bristol 412, it looked even worse! I am not sure which of the two was drawn first.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
I had forgotten that. Not one of Pininfarina's best efforts, IMO. When Zagato made the design scheme bigger in the Bristol 412, it looked even worse! I am not sure which of the two was drawn first.
I always thought the spider was a bit plain outside but have grown to appreciate it a bit more in recent years. Even the interior is a pininfarina design despite the seats looking very zagato. I prefer the early seat design but have always disliked that mid brown colour they did them in, the later seats are very somber especially in black the light tan option is rarer and preferable in my opinion

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
I had forgotten that. Not one of Pininfarina's best efforts, IMO. When Zagato made the design scheme bigger in the Bristol 412, it looked even worse! I am not sure which of the two was drawn first.
The worst thing they did was the trevi......

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Yes, what were they thinking? The essence of a Lancia car had always been that it should be beautiful to look at as well as good to drive. Those gorgeous Dolce Vita machines of the 50s and 60s, the stunning Fulvia, the good looking Betas (mostly), and the Gammas,and then we got... the Trevi.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Yes, what were they thinking? The essence of a Lancia car had always been that it should be beautiful to look at as well as good to drive. Those gorgeous Dolce Vita machines of the 50s and 60s, the stunning Fulvia, the good looking Betas (mostly), and the Gammas,and then we got... the Trevi.
I suspect pininfarina were told there's a budget of zero make it into a conventional saloon for us!
To be fair the later series two trevis that we didn't get are a lot better as many of the fussy details were deleted and the interior was improved, no more hidden door handles to baffle and scare passengers!

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Hidden (exterior) door handles to baffle if not scare passengers were one of the triumphs of the Alfa 156. They bottled it when they did the 159.

Alfa 156 retro cool front door handles are a good thing also.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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Evo

3,462 posts

254 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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Breadvan72 said:
Just not to the door handle smile

arguti

1,774 posts

186 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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Thanks for nothing Breadvan...I have now landed up with this! smile

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191202122347?ssPageName=...

According to the listing the seller is willing to post to UK!

It runs so looks like a good donor car at the very least!