Classics dwarfed by moderns

[Highway Star]

Perspective doesn't help, but still...



Still, it's all relative:

[Lost soul]

Hooli said:

Lost soul said:

It is quite shocking !!!!

Never having seen them together I'd always thought the Alpine would be the bigger.

You just think of a Lotus as being a small car , the Alpine is in my mind as a mid size coupe

Edited by Lost soul on Wednesday 2nd July 16:36

[JoeNorton]

Crikey that Fiat photo is great...!

[MarshPhantom]

Hooli said:

Lost soul said:

It is quite shocking !!!!

Never having seen them together I'd always thought the Alpine would be the bigger.

That is shocking. Alpine wasn't a small car when new.

[MarshPhantom]

blueg33 said:

I was surprised at how much bigger the Evora seemed in comparison to the GTA

Both have 4 seats, but the GTA can fit adults in the back whereas anyone over 5ft doesnt really fit in the Evora.

At first glance the Evora looks like a Nissan GTR.

[Kawasicki]

[anonymous-user]

The black lump is not only hewyaaaaaarge, but its owner parks like a . Ditto the white one. Getting out of there with unassisted steering was a bit grunty.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 6th July 21:40

[VinceFox]

Is that beta coupe yours?

Bloody love those.

[interloper]

ajprice said:

The Lotus being that much bigger than the GTA is ridiculous! Would never have expected that seeing the cars together.

I think this has a lot to do with the drive train layout, the rear engine set up really helps the Alpine remain a tidier package. Were as trying to squeeze in rear seats in a mid engined car is a lot more awkward.

A really interesting comparison would be an Evora lined up against a Ferrari 308GT4, or Lamborghini Urraco, as both of those cars have a similar layout to the Lotus.

[anonymous-user]

That is my Beta Coupe which is a very rare 1300 version (one of four known to be on the road in the UK, and one of two pre facelift models).

Thread here -


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[VinceFox]

Christ, i didnt even know they did a 1300.

Always loved that shape, proportions were just spot on.

[rodericb]

I don't know if this one has been posted yet:



The difference would be even more massive if the classic was one of those Prince Skylines!

[dinkel]

Kawasicki said:

That's a good one.

It's tempting to snap a 2014 MINI next to any pre 90s car ...

[LotusOmega375D]

Judging by the down-at-heel stance, I'm not sure that that particular XJ is going to offer the famously cossetting ride quality which the car was famous for.

[Pappagallo]

This thread makes me really sad for some reason. We've definitely lost our way in terms of the sizing of cars.

[anonymous-user]

Car design went badly wrong after the 1990s in my opinion. What use modern energy efficient engines when they have to haul vast, heavy contraptions, which you can't see out of because of the huge pillars? Then add in all the computer BS that will render a mechanically serviceable car inert because of some software whim. The car is dead, I reckon.

[blueg33]

Breadvan72 said:

Car design went badly wrong after the 1990s in my opinion. What use modern energy efficient engines when they have to haul vast, heavy contraptions, which you can't see out of because of the huge pillars? Then add in all the computer BS that will render a mechanically serviceable car inert because of some software whim. The car is dead, I reckon.

I disagree, my Evora is far more interesting to drive and is more fun than my Dads MGB GT.

[RichB]

rodericb said:

I don't know if this one has been posted yet:



The difference would be even more massive if the classic was one of those Prince Skylines!

I don't know my Japanese cars so are they both versions of the same model?

[anonymous-user]

blueg33 said:

Breadvan72 said:

Car design went badly wrong after the 1990s in my opinion. What use modern energy efficient engines when they have to haul vast, heavy contraptions, which you can't see out of because of the huge pillars? Then add in all the computer BS that will render a mechanically serviceable car inert because of some software whim. The car is dead, I reckon.

I disagree, my Evora is far more interesting to drive and is more fun than my Dads MGB GT.

The MGB GT was a truly dreadful car when it was a new model and age has not improved it. A better comparison is with cars of the late 1980s and the early to mid 1990s, a period in which rust and reliability issues had been addressed, cars had modernish engines, gearboxes and brakes, but were not unduly burdened by weight and fat wheels and computers. I prefer 70s cars for styling and character, but 80s and 90s cars had a lot going for them in terms of engineering development, reliability, durability, safety etc.

[anonymous-user]

Talking of MGs, here's one of the good ones, predictably dwarfed by an Audi that seems to have a handbrake issue.