Airchamber or Carcoon Veloce?
Discussion
If space is a major issue in your garages then an alternative is to use a dehumidifier. You continue with the dust covers but fit a dehumidifier to remove moisture and add a little heat. As it will be running constantly you will need to plumb in the water outlet to a drain.
I am about to purchase a couple of airchambers as my garage (read barn) is too large to use a dehumidifier but it is a solution if space is tight.
PaUL
I am about to purchase a couple of airchambers as my garage (read barn) is too large to use a dehumidifier but it is a solution if space is tight.
PaUL
i have a rotary deisscant de-humidifier in my other garage which works far better in cold weather than any refrigerant based ones. it still removes water and keeps the room dry. not cheap though and its taking 600-700w when in drying mode and about 70w in fan only mode when the humidity is spot on, so it will bump up the leccy bill over a yr. my garage is manitained between 40-60% rh all year round though. i have recently put it on a timer for 12 hrs a day to see how it copes rather than 24/7, so far so good.
if you are going this route i think its better to try and seal the garage off more to keep the air within maintained, rather than having it continually trying to dry out new incoming air.
if you are going this route i think its better to try and seal the garage off more to keep the air within maintained, rather than having it continually trying to dry out new incoming air.
Surely if the its tight on the spoiler then it would be best to reverse the car into the garage.
I always had to reverse mine in on my old garage as the door would hit the spoiler through its arc when opening/closing. Reversing in obviously alleviates the issue as the front is a lot lower height wise.
I always had to reverse mine in on my old garage as the door would hit the spoiler through its arc when opening/closing. Reversing in obviously alleviates the issue as the front is a lot lower height wise.
NotNormal said:
Surely if the its tight on the spoiler then it would be best to reverse the car into the garage.
I always had to reverse mine in on my old garage as the door would hit the spoiler through its arc when opening/closing. Reversing in obviously alleviates the issue as the front is a lot lower height wise.
The pod is a fixed length and angled at both ends, so even if I reversed in I'd just get the same issue at the other end. Also, reversing would be a much trickier manoeuvre and, being LHD, I wouldn't be able to get out of the driver's side door. I think the tea towel is probably the easiest solution.I always had to reverse mine in on my old garage as the door would hit the spoiler through its arc when opening/closing. Reversing in obviously alleviates the issue as the front is a lot lower height wise.
Nice Silhouette. I've always wanted a Jalpa and they're a bit cheaper than yours. so who knows...?
Anyway, this morning was the first big test of the new Cair-O-Port (who thinks up these kinds of product names?
), since it is the first time in several days that the temperature has finally risen above freezing here. In the past that would have been the perfect recipe to find the Lotus dripping with condensation, but the good news is that the car is still bone dry. I am glad I didn't wait until Christmas to buy the cover. This product actually has 3 fans, but that seems rather unnecessary, particularly since the centre one just blows air at point-blank range onto the lower front bumper, so I unplugged that one a week or so back. The two remaining fans still create quite a breeze inside the cover. So far so good, but I still think I'll unplug it all and open it up when the Spring comes, otherwise it will put me off using the car for those impromptu trips out.
Anyway, this morning was the first big test of the new Cair-O-Port (who thinks up these kinds of product names?
), since it is the first time in several days that the temperature has finally risen above freezing here. In the past that would have been the perfect recipe to find the Lotus dripping with condensation, but the good news is that the car is still bone dry. I am glad I didn't wait until Christmas to buy the cover. This product actually has 3 fans, but that seems rather unnecessary, particularly since the centre one just blows air at point-blank range onto the lower front bumper, so I unplugged that one a week or so back. The two remaining fans still create quite a breeze inside the cover. So far so good, but I still think I'll unplug it all and open it up when the Spring comes, otherwise it will put me off using the car for those impromptu trips out.Hello here from belgium,
Owner of classic car, i would like to conserve it the best way. Unfortunately, my
garage is quite damp/humid and has bad ventilation.
Since a lot of you guys use a carcoon/airchamber/cair o port, i would like your advice.
I just want the best system but i have no idea wich one is the best.:
- carcoon veloce
- airchamber
- cair o port
All of them have rigid frame. Carcoon and airchamber have 2 fans. Cair o port has 3.
Wich one should i take?
Thanks for your advice
Owner of classic car, i would like to conserve it the best way. Unfortunately, my
garage is quite damp/humid and has bad ventilation.
Since a lot of you guys use a carcoon/airchamber/cair o port, i would like your advice.
I just want the best system but i have no idea wich one is the best.:
- carcoon veloce
- airchamber
- cair o port
All of them have rigid frame. Carcoon and airchamber have 2 fans. Cair o port has 3.
Wich one should i take?
Thanks for your advice
na said:
read this thread and do a search on this site as the subject has been covered a few times already plus different people have different personal views
if you have any carpeting or matting in the garage then remove it as it holds the damp making matters worse
owww...if you have any carpeting or matting in the garage then remove it as it holds the damp making matters worse
so it is a bad idea of putting a carpet under the carcoon/airchamber?
I was thinking of placing some carpets because the floor is concrete. Bad idea then?
benjj said:
I rate my Airchamber very highly.
Nice design, airflow is excellent, which I suppose is the point entirely, and it is easy to get the car in and out of.
Mine is the XXXL Fatboy XXL Chubbster size so not too easy to fit in a garage unless you're blessed with space.
It has 2 or three fans your airflow?Nice design, airflow is excellent, which I suppose is the point entirely, and it is easy to get the car in and out of.
Mine is the XXXL Fatboy XXL Chubbster size so not too easy to fit in a garage unless you're blessed with space.
golf fahrer said:
benjj said:
I rate my Airchamber very highly.
Nice design, airflow is excellent, which I suppose is the point entirely, and it is easy to get the car in and out of.
Mine is the XXXL Fatboy XXL Chubbster size so not too easy to fit in a garage unless you're blessed with space.
It has 2 or three fans your airflow?Nice design, airflow is excellent, which I suppose is the point entirely, and it is easy to get the car in and out of.
Mine is the XXXL Fatboy XXL Chubbster size so not too easy to fit in a garage unless you're blessed with space.
It works very well and gives a good constant flow of air over the car.
I leave each window down 5cm and also prop the boot open with 2 (clean) sponges. This keeps the interior fresh, dry and clean too.
The fans need cleaning every 3-6 months, possibly more often if it is in a dirty environment. My Airchamber has gauses over the fan like headphones which you can take off and clean. I just use a dry toothbrush to get off any dust and debris on mine but you could wash them.
golf fahrer said:
owww...
so it is a bad idea of putting a carpet under the carcoon/airchamber?
I was thinking of placing some carpets because the floor is concrete. Bad idea then?
yes it is a bad idea, why make more work for the 'bubble' and have more damp in the rest of the garageso it is a bad idea of putting a carpet under the carcoon/airchamber?
I was thinking of placing some carpets because the floor is concrete. Bad idea then?
concrete floors are cold and hard on your feet (cars have air filled rubber tyres so don't worry about soft floors for them), for your feet at say bench areas wooden slotted pathways or flooring is good as it insulates your feet from the cold and hardness of the concrete floor
Edited by na on Thursday 7th February 15:47
Ok, searched a lot on site and internet.
If i resume:
Carcoon
+ patented system (for what its worth)
+ design
+ filter system (carbon filters)
- drive over zip (damage?)
- condensation under the car? due only 2 fans?
Airchamber:
+ zip system, no dammage when driving in/out
+ better acces from the side
- condensation unter the car? due only 2 fans
- filters (no carbon filters)
Cair o port:
+ zip system, no dammage when driving in/out
+ better acces from the side
+ 3 fans: would be no condensation unter the car.
but 3 fans are in front, good air circulation.
- drive over the frame
- filters (no carbon filters)
Since the 3 are possible for me (sizing).
Is it true that some people had condensation unter the car because their system
only had 2 fans? Find no info about that problem.
Is the airflow of the cair o port as good as airchamber and carcoon? The 3 fans
are in the front.
If i resume:
Carcoon
+ patented system (for what its worth)
+ design
+ filter system (carbon filters)
- drive over zip (damage?)
- condensation under the car? due only 2 fans?
Airchamber:
+ zip system, no dammage when driving in/out
+ better acces from the side
- condensation unter the car? due only 2 fans
- filters (no carbon filters)
Cair o port:
+ zip system, no dammage when driving in/out
+ better acces from the side
+ 3 fans: would be no condensation unter the car.
but 3 fans are in front, good air circulation.
- drive over the frame
- filters (no carbon filters)
Since the 3 are possible for me (sizing).
Is it true that some people had condensation unter the car because their system
only had 2 fans? Find no info about that problem.
Is the airflow of the cair o port as good as airchamber and carcoon? The 3 fans
are in the front.
golf fahrer said:
Carcoon
+ patented system (for what its worth)
+ design
+ filter system (carbon filters)
- drive over zip (damage?)
- condensation under the car? due only 2 fans?
I can only talk about Carcoon, I had the drive over floor then zip and inflate in garage model, from memory, it was over 15 years ago, it had two foam(?) filtered fans, zip in floor and a zip in the bubble bit that could be left up or closed depending on the needs, the fans were fed by a small electric unit that plug into a domestic power socket (I think that unit also now supplies a battery conditioner?)+ patented system (for what its worth)
+ design
+ filter system (carbon filters)
- drive over zip (damage?)
- condensation under the car? due only 2 fans?
a permanent frame type would be easier to use
+ patented system (for what its worth) - by the guy that still runs the company now so possibly this and the fact it's a small company would help with communication and issue resolvent if there were any
- drive over zip (damage?) the zip on the one I had was very sturdy but I wouldn't have drove a tracked tank over it or wheel spun over it
- condensation under the car? due only 2 fans? this puzzles me as you could put the car in wet and subject to length of time and following instruction the Carcoon would dry the car out, not a good idea to put the car in dripping wet mind
only explanations I can give are that a lot of people don't read or follow the instructions of what they buy and then blame the item for not operating in they way they chose to use it rather than they way it was designed to be used - in the world we also have idiots and there's no accounting for what they do - lastly perhaps the garage is so damp that it can't be beat but as you can get outdoor Carcoons these garages must be really bad
oh just thought of one more, water trapped in the car will find eventually find its way to the floor if the car has been in the rain or washed sometimes days later
mine was in a small rented concrete slab garage - concrete slab garages really 'sweat' and get dripping wet inside, before the Carcoon I tried installing a permanently open 20 square inches (130cmsq.) vent which brought in more fresh air changes (and a bit more cold air of course) but the garage remained unheated so there wasn't much improvement - same garage using a Carcoon and the car remained dry
being a small garage it was also useful that the Carcoon was very low pressure so the walls could be pushed in to get by (mine was frameless)
the 'bubbles' are much better than car covers as they encourage the use of the car whereas with car covers the use of the car is discouraged as the car has to be clean before being covered which means the next time you drive the car you also have to allow for being able to clean the car before putting the cover back on, with 'air chambers' you can drive the car in and out without cleaning
being a small garage it was also useful that the Carcoon was very low pressure so the walls could be pushed in to get by (mine was frameless)
the 'bubbles' are much better than car covers as they encourage the use of the car whereas with car covers the use of the car is discouraged as the car has to be clean before being covered which means the next time you drive the car you also have to allow for being able to clean the car before putting the cover back on, with 'air chambers' you can drive the car in and out without cleaning
Edited by na on Sunday 10th February 17:46
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