Old fashioned immobiliser woes

[rswift]

The immobiliser looks like another breakdown waiting to happen !

I'd definitely take the whole lot out. I had a similar issue with our Suzuki cappuccino, that was hidden under the dash, and cut out the ignition, and fuel pump. Yours looks a bit more complex, bit someone fitted it, so therefore, it must be reversible !

A case of patiently checking all the wires, and where they go. The beauty of your Lancia is that there is no modern ECU or electronics to deal with, all you need is fuel and a spark.

Nice looking car BTW

[anonymous-user]

Cheers. I have just popped down the road and bought a new coil. If I get my work finished before it gets dark today, I shall make the swap.

[anonymous-user]

na said:

Breadvan72 said:

Err, what things in the back?

I think they're seats but I don't understand why they'd be there

Breadvan72 said:

The dash design dates from 1979,

you legal types with your word twisting

Breadvan72 said:

Here is the horrid contraption minus its rubber hat. Also, another shot of the Barry bling. The cable for the semi automatic choke can't seem to go anywhere else, neat fiends.

some nasty tight degree bends on the wires off the plugs there

Breadvan72 said:

it's knit one pearl one with that choke cable, if it's supposed to be that long I'd have thought it'd been clipped to give a long gentle curve, I'd not be keen on the choke cable rubbing against those nice yellow HT leads and in two places

. . . things like that can cause immobilizer problems

Ah ha, back seats. I see what you mean, but I have my daughter to think of.

As for the Neat-Nazi points, duly noted, and if I CBA later I might have a tidy up, although I confess that I prefer the sort of car fixing that involves hitting stuff with a big hammer.

[na]

more practicality (no that's not the right word but I can't think of another) than neatness, you don't want the choke cable chaffing on the HT leads, ooohhw, you never want chaffing

[anonymous-user]

I have some cream for that, if you like.

Edited to add: the camera can lie- in fact the choke [Re-Edit: throttle] cable is clear of the plug leads, but my gash photography makes them look like they are having a rub.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th January 15:01

[anonymous-user]

The photo below is clearer. BTW, the semi-auto choke works pretty well. You depress the throttle pedal fully and release it, and then start the car without pressing the pedal. To disengage the choke, you depress the pedal again. It has worked well even on cold and damp mornings, and seems more reliable than the one on my Jensen. Using the manual choke on my Murena is less certain - it takes a fair bit of encouragement to start on cold mornings, and I managed to flood it in very numptie fashion the other day. I have found that the twin cams on old Lotuses almost never need choke for cold starts.

[lowdrag]

Personally, I just lurve that Aertex rubber coil boot. Where do you buy them?

[anonymous-user]

My mum knits them as a sort of cottage industry.

[na]

in this photo the cable looks like it needs clipping or shortening (and rest on the black pipe)


in the previous photo, below, the cable appeared to tuck below the bundle of HT leads and tucked in the loop of the king? lead


so that cable is for the semi-auto choke then?

[anonymous-user]

We may be at cross purposes. The choke [Edit: throttle] cable is black/grey, and goes to the carburettor, underneath the Barry Boy airbox. The light brown coloured pipe is the remote oil level checker, that doesn't work (I am told that they almost never do). It runs from an oil level instrument on the dashboard to the dipstick. Come to think of it, I'm going to clip that pipe further away from the engine.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th January 15:03

[anonymous-user]

Here are a couple of other examples from the intertubes:-

[Excelsior]

I'm not doing this right am I?

[anonymous-user]

Is that from a Montecarlo?

By the way, if people think that the dash on a series 2 Beta Spyder is naff, check out the series 3 Beta Berlina. Bonkers, but sort of groovy:-

[Excelsior]

I believe it is ex 131 Mirafiori but could be wrong - it is currently living in a Fraud Cortina

[na]

Breadvan72 said:

We may be at cross purposes. The choke cable is black/grey, and goes to the carburettor, underneath the Barry Boy airbox. The light brown coloured pipe is the remote oil level checker, that doesn't work (I am told that they almost never do). It runs from an oil level instrument on the dashboard to the dipstick. Come to think of it, I'm going to clip that pipe further away from the engine.

arhh, that's better, me 'ead was 'urtin' trying to work it out, mind when I had a newish car, 27 year old Capri, that had auto-choke that you set by pushing the accelerator pedal, so this talk of semi-auto choke confused me as did the oil level pipe, all too sophisticated for me to understand

your engine bay get better with every photo you put up of others - I don't count K&N as bling, you don't have to polish the shiny cover

[anonymous-user]

You are only saying that because the photo doesn't show the Swarovski crystals embedded in the airbox cover.

Excelsior: Bezonkers. Having said that, it is a pretty nifty engine, and the Fiat version staggered on as far as the 1990s Fiat Coupe.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 28th January 19:11

[Excelsior]

On twin 45's with racy cams and pistons it is good for 190bhp - much better than the Lotus lump it replaced.

Since Frauds are made of air ( <800kgs ) it goes very well....

[anonymous-user]

Pretty good - it must scream like a nutter, and drink like a fish. Moar picz pleese.

I may be switching the Dellorto 45s from my Murena (it only needs 40s), in case you need any spares.

[hoppo4.2]

I had the exact same thing when I had my cerbera. It would no restart in a pub car park. This caused much tvr based laughing but it only took me about 10 mins to remove in the carpark. They are anoying and crap rip it out.

[anonymous-user]

Such is the plan for today.