How rare is this Jaguar Coupe?

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Oldred_V8S

3,715 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th October 2015
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Some lovely cars here, always liked the coupe's.

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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Finally getting some colour on my Daimler XJ6 coupe.

Does anyone know whether the front wheel arch closing panels were originally body coloured or black ?

Someone who use to work for a Leyland dealer in the 1970's tells me that every new car they got was immediately undersealed by the dealership so he can't recall what the factory finish was.




tortop45

434 posts

161 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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mph said:
Finally getting some colour on my Daimler XJ6 coupe.

Does anyone know whether the front wheel arch closing panels were originally body coloured or black ?

Someone who use to work for a Leyland dealer in the 1970's tells me that every new car they got was immediately undersealed by the dealership so he can't recall what the factory finish was.


I worked at a layland garage back in the late 70,s ,it was a body shop doing PDI work on these coupes and crash repairs on all layland cars,as for undersealing these cars that was all done at the factory not dealer ships ,the wheel arch closing panels were black and covered in underseal thats why they rusted ,best to do them today in stone chip but before fitting them back in the car spray the back of them it waxoil....

craigjm

17,959 posts

201 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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Just bought mine



Yes the wheels are going

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Saturday 31st October 2015
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tortop45 said:
I worked at a layland garage back in the late 70,s ,it was a body shop doing PDI work on these coupes and crash repairs on all layland cars,as for undersealing these cars that was all done at the factory not dealer ships ,the wheel arch closing panels were black and covered in underseal thats why they rusted ,best to do them today in stone chip but before fitting them back in the car spray the back of them it waxoil....
He worked at the main dealers as a painter. They had one man permanently designated to apply underseal under the wheel arches of all new cars as they had so many complaints about the poor quality of the factory finish.

I'll probably go with body colour over stone chip and waxoil them as you suggest.

The previous owner of my car has waxoiled it to death ! It's actually caused us quite a few problems during the repair.




klunkT5

589 posts

119 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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mph said:

The previous owner of my car has waxoiled it to death ! It's actually caused us quite a few problems during the repair.
I assume the waxoil caused problems with welding? Fire hazard? And i imagine a pain to get off in really confined areas?

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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klunkT5 said:
I assume the waxoil caused problems with welding? Fire hazard? And i imagine a pain to get off in really confined areas?
Absolutely right.

I wouldn't like to think how much the previous owner used but he did tell me the car still "leaks" waxoil on very hot days and he rustproofed it more than twenty years ago !




Huntsman

8,063 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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Is it my imagination or is the XJC a very popular car at the moment?

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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Huntsman said:
Is it my imagination or is the XJC a very popular car at the moment?
They do seem to be finally fulfilling the ancient prophesy that they'll become desirable classics smile

Given that they were made in relatively small numbers and are rather attractive (IMHO) I think it's time they were more appreciated.

Interest in XJS's also seems to be rising.

lowdrag

12,897 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Out of curiosity, has anyone yet figured out how to stop the wind whistle from the B-posts (well, furflex if you will) at speed? Used to drive me crazy that.

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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craigjm said:
Just bought mine



Yes the wheels are going
Beautiful, great colour.

TR4man

5,229 posts

175 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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craigjm said:
Just bought mine



Yes the wheels are going
Lovely

The wheels aren't that bad in my opinion

pacoryan

671 posts

232 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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Haven't the arches been made a lot bigger to fit the bigger wheels, a set of Kents might look a little lost! What is the wheel size? Might be able to find something a bit more period and lose a bit of the balloon effect from the tyres I guess.

The white one I posted in September in the left to die thread is still there, on the Walworth Rd just south of Elephant and Castle. I wish someone would save it!

craigjm

17,959 posts

201 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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It's not gonna have a set of Kents. It will be having a set of reproduction Dunlops in 16s (current wheels are 17s) from Realm Engineering. The suspension on it is fully adjustable so once they are on will sort out the height and stance

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Chassis 2G1001 prototype on ebay for anyone interested.....

ToneyCaroney

1,038 posts

185 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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loose cannon said:
Chassis 2G1001 prototype on ebay for anyone interested.....
Is that the V12 that Justin Banks has on up for £20k?
Probably needs that spending on it again. I'm still tempted by it though. It's only not having the time, space or money that stops me.....

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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ToneyCaroney said:
Is that the V12 that Justin Banks has on up for £20k?
Probably needs that spending on it again. I'm still tempted by it though. It's only not having the time, space or money that stops me.....
That's the one according to the advert description.
This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to restore and own a significant car in the history of Jaguar. This is, on the face of it, a 1974 Jaguar XJ12 Coupe finished in Regency Red with Biscuit Hide, but it is actually very special in the following respects.

It is chassis No. 1, i.e. Chassis 2G 1001, the very first V12 Coupe made, but it gets better than that, this car is actually Experimental Car Project ZX36/2 (3.4 Engine), which means that it was taken from the V12 production line and fitted with the 3.4 saloon engine and manual gearbox, so see if this work be a workable combination. As it turned out, Jaguar decided upon the 4.2 and V12 engines as the only options, which means this is the only Jaguar Coupe to be made with the 3.4 engine and manual gearbox.

All of this information is outlined on the Heritage Certificate and older correspondence with Jaguar over the years. Dont forget, this car was produced in January 1974, a full year before any customers received their cars.

As you can see from the photos, the car needs restoring but over £20k has already been invested in the project and a huge amount of bodywork, welding has taken place and would not need to be repeated. It is actually quite advanced but obviously, a huge amount of work remains. We belive the car to be complete but cannot guarantee every nut and bolt is there.

All in all, this is a very rare opportunity, unique in many respects, to buy a Jaguar Experimental car, the story of which still remains to be told!

mph

2,337 posts

283 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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loose cannon said:
Chassis 2G1001 prototype on ebay for anyone interested.....
No doubt it's an interesting car for a collector, but rather underwhelming to drive with a 3.4 engine.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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mph said:
loose cannon said:
Chassis 2G1001 prototype on ebay for anyone interested.....
No doubt it's an interesting car for a collector, but rather underwhelming to drive with a 3.4 engine.
that's what I was thinking

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Friday 6th November 2015
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Also very expensive