COOL CLASSIC CAR SPOTTERS POST!!! Vol 2
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NigelStn said:
I believe to fit a GT6 engine in a Spitfire the GT6 bonnet was required as well to clear the 6 pot rocker cover
I think you are right and that looks a standard Spitty bonnet.The meaty exhausts could just be the old Triumphtune twin pipe set up which can be fitted to the standard engine.
4rephill said:
CRA1G said:
RESSE said:
Spotted in the car park if my local this afternoon:
That is the case of the spoiler spoiling imo..!
The XJS convertible on the other hand, is a different matter!
lucido grigio said:
4rephill said:
CRA1G said:
RESSE said:
Spotted in the car park if my local this afternoon:
That is the case of the spoiler spoiling imo..!The XJS convertible on the other hand, is a different matter!
gforceg said:
Yep, it's a BIG WHY? from me too.
Because BL still feared that the US would ban convertibles, as they'd been threatening to do since the mid-70s. The Cabriolet retained adequate rollover protecton to enable it to get federal approval and to be sold in the USA (a market BL had been chasing - with varying success - for many years).By the time it was launched, the threat had all but gone away, so the full convertible XJS was developed and released five years later.
Nice explanation about why a convertible and not a cabriolet but would someone just define the difference between the two? I once asked a well respected classics magazine but reply came there none. Did they not know, or just think it was a dumb question, which it might well be... Incidentally, I'm not just thinking of relatively modern examples such as that discussed but post-, even pre-war examples. Thanks
Doofus said:
gforceg said:
Yep, it's a BIG WHY? from me too.
Because BL still feared that the US would ban convertibles, as they'd been threatening to do since the mid-70s. The Cabriolet retained adequate rollover protecton to enable it to get federal approval and to be sold in the USA (a market BL had been chasing - with varying success - for many years).By the time it was launched, the threat had all but gone away, so the full convertible XJS was developed and released five years later.
Bob CD said:
Nice explanation about why a convertible and not a cabriolet but would someone just define the difference between the two? I once asked a well respected classics magazine but reply came there none. Did they not know, or just think it was a dumb question, which it might well be... Incidentally, I'm not just thinking of relatively modern examples such as that discussed but post-, even pre-war examples. Thanks
LMGTFYConvertible and Cabriolet what’s the difference?
Convertible or Cabriolet?
What is the difference between a convertible and a cabriolet? The truth is, very little. The words generally have the same meaning but come from rather different routes. Whereas Roadster is a more specific term (generally referring to a small, lightweight two seater sports car), both Convertible and Cabriolet are currently used in more general terms for a car with a removable roof.
Purists may claim that both phrases only refer to cars with four seats that originate from fixed roof cars. However, there have been so many exceptions to this rule that they seem better suited as general terms.
Since the advent of the automobile the words convertible and cabriolet have become interchangeable. Manufacturers in America have generally kept to using ‘convertible’ while European brands (French in particular) often prefer to use ‘cabriolet’. Contradicting examples can be found in German brands where BMW use Convertible while Audi prefer Cabriolet. Brands such as Jaguar and Mercedes have been known to use both terms for their cars.
The word Convertible seems to have more recent origins and is only used for motor cars. The phrase simply means ‘to-convert’ referring to the fact that the car can be converted from a vehicle with a roof to one without. Today both words are widely used with ‘Convertible’ being the more popular by a small margin.
Cabriolet on the other hand is a French word first used in the 18th century originally referring to a light horse-drawn carriage. A Cabriolet would have two wheels and a folding fabric hood that could be pulled up to protect two occupants (one being the driver) from the weather. It would be pulled by a single horse. The name is thought to derive from cabriole (a French term for a dance-like high kicking classical horse movement) because of the vehicle’s light, bouncing motion.
Interestingly, before the automobile was invented, Cabriolet’s were often used as taxis for hire and the word was was often shortened to ‘Cab’ thus being the source of the phrase ‘taxi cab’ or ‘hackney cab’. When referring to convertible cars, Cabriolet is more likely to be shortened to ‘Cabrio’.
The name Roadster also dates back to the early days of motoring when it was used to describe a stripped-down two-seater style of coachwork mostly used for racing. The phrase became commonly used for simple lightweight sports cars without a fixed roof. Some roadsters have convertible tops while others have no weather protection at all. Roadster is also closely related to the term ‘Speedster’. If there is any difference between the two then a Speedster is more likely to have a smaller cut-down windscreen.
Spyder or Spider is a name with Italian roots (shortened from spider phaeton – a light open carridge) and is again used for a two seat sports car with a removable roof. A Spyder is often a lightened version of a standard Roadster model but the name has been used broadley by several manufacturers.
Bob CD said:
Nice explanation about why a convertible and not a cabriolet but would someone just define the difference between the two? I once asked a well respected classics magazine but reply came there none. Did they not know, or just think it was a dumb question, which it might well be... Incidentally, I'm not just thinking of relatively modern examples such as that discussed but post-, even pre-war examples. Thanks
My personal interpetation tends to be that a convertible has a fold down roof, and a cabriolet does the same, but with a permanent 'frame' (Triumph Stag, Ford Escort MkIII, theXJS above). A roadster has no roof, or a much lighter roof than a convertible (think Jaguar XKs OTS vs Drophead).Barchetta, Spider, Spyder et al tend to be marketing designations rather than 'definitions'.
All this is my take, I'm not claiming any of it as irrefutable.
TR4man said:
Seen coming out of South Mimms services yesterday lunchtime.
Obviously a hot rod, no idea what powered it but it sounded glorious.
DVLA says first registered 1931, so it seems to be based on a genuine late Ford Model A.Obviously a hot rod, no idea what powered it but it sounded glorious.
Engine listed as 5000cc (so it could be a Flathead?).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/boblovelockflickr/78...
Roy C said:
TR4man said:
Seen coming out of South Mimms services yesterday lunchtime.
Obviously a hot rod, no idea what powered it but it sounded glorious.
DVLA says first registered 1931, so it seems to be based on a genuine late Ford Model A.Obviously a hot rod, no idea what powered it but it sounded glorious.
Engine listed as 5000cc (so it could be a Flathead?).
https://www.flickr.com/photos/boblovelockflickr/78...
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