Help identifying a strange little car

Help identifying a strange little car

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Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Bebee said:


1951-1954 Nash-Healey

They were at Lemans

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1954-n...
Too much distance between the front wheel and the door

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Jimmy Recard said:
Bebee said:


1951-1954 Nash-Healey

They were at Lemans

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1954-n...
Too much distance between the front wheel and the door
And completely different rear screen/pillar.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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xRIEx said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Bebee said:


1951-1954 Nash-Healey

They were at Lemans

https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1954-n...
Too much distance between the front wheel and the door
And completely different rear screen/pillar.
....and about twice as big as the mystery car.......

Bebee

4,679 posts

225 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I know but they were making prototypes around that time.

JamesRF

1,051 posts

98 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Without trying to be funny, are people actually looking at the original car with their eyes open?

Cars are being suggested that bear absolutely no resemblance in any way.

Bebee

4,679 posts

225 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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It's more a way of suggesting a car that may lead closer to identifying it!
Thought provoking if you like, I've suggested a few so far knowing it's not 'the one'.

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I'm afraid I can't see the image to compare - so fully expect to be shot down - but I just came across this strange little car for sale.

It's an Abarth Monomille GT.

Have we had this yet?



https://bringatrailer.com/2017/10/25/rare-survivor...

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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I don't think we have but it's still not the one I'm afraid. frown

lowdrag

12,894 posts

213 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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talksthetorque said:
Think it's been id'd as Le Chartre sur Loire near Le Mans

Streetview concurs


But autocorrect thought otherwise. Edited now.

Edited by talksthetorque on Wednesday 2nd November 00:08
I was there last week and the photo is on the wall, but no one I've spoken to (including the old owner) has any idea at all.


lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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Trying to find ,and failed ,looking for a post giving the year of the pic ,an Abarth was mentioned 3 years ago but as said

it's too new for this mystery ,which is from the 50s isn't it ?

Off topic but that Abarth is a beauty ,saw 2 similar cars at Festival Italia at Brands Hatch this summer.

gareth_r

5,731 posts

237 months

Friday 27th October 2017
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lucido grigio said:
...looking for a post giving the year of the pic...
Looks like the newest car there is the Renault Dauphine, introduced in 1956.

The cars are:
Citroen DS 1955
Peugeot 203 1948
Peugeot 403 1955
Renault 4CV 1947
Simca Aronde Grand Large 1955

????
Renault Juvaquatre station wagon/Dauphinoise 1950
Renault Dauphine 1956
Simca Aronde 1955
Citroen Traction Avant big boot, so 1952?

mystery car

Renault Primaquatre 1931

Edited by gareth_r on Friday 27th October 21:50

havoc

30,073 posts

235 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Thread resurrection as I've followed a link here and spent all lunchtime hunting!




Proportions / overhangs are correct for a Simca 1000 coupe, but the roofline wraps overe more, rear quarters look a little wrong (slightly finned rear wings?) and the front isn't quite right. Could it be a coachbuilt version? Were there any such things?

Roofline is correct for a Salmson 2300, but the front wheelarch-vs-door is all wrong.

Proportions and roofline right for a Renault Fregate Coupe, as is the squared-off rear arch, but bonnet still looks wrong and not 100% on the rear wings.


The bonnet/nose is the killer here...it's shouting Simca/Gordini, which really makes me wonder if it's a coachbuild or a rebuild???


PS - this is a great website to waste some time browsing through...although it is in French:-
http://www.antiqbrocdelatour.com/Les-collections/v...

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Yeah it's a coach built special based on someone probably mentioned above. If it was a genuine OEM, however rare, someone would've found it by now.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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vixen1700 said:


From the classics forum, the little coupe second from the left.

Could somebody with good computer skills blow it up a bit or hone in on it a bit. It's got us all stumped over there. confused
Spotted one of these the other day

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

132 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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saaby93 said:
vixen1700 said:


From the classics forum, the little coupe second from the left.

Could somebody with good computer skills blow it up a bit or hone in on it a bit. It's got us all stumped over there. confused
Spotted one of these the other day
Def not. That's a Karmann Ghia


Edited by Tannedbaldhead on Saturday 27th January 15:48

thegreenhell

15,359 posts

219 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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saaby93 said:
vixen1700 said:


From the classics forum, the little coupe second from the left.

Could somebody with good computer skills blow it up a bit or hone in on it a bit. It's got us all stumped over there. confused
Spotted one of these the other day
Good for you, but what about the strange little car in the original picture?

KerwinRobertson

135 posts

82 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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Best I could do to remove the man walking in front of it.
I have added the door hinge line and a conjecture of a line at the rear of the door shut. Hope it helps.

Looks like it has a dent on the rear.

Edited by KerwinRobertson on Thursday 11th January 11:10

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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The saga continues!

I think it was mentioned earlier in the thread that the car in front - the rear of the car may be obscuring the front with it's back end. So what looks like the front end on the mystery may in fact be parts of the back end of the other car, if you see what i mean.

However, that doesn't help really does it for we still haven't seen a car that has the combination of roof shape vs wheelarch shape vs everything else.

Bah. It's a puzzler!

blueg33

35,922 posts

224 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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PH's most frustrating thread has cost me another morning of my life

M1C

1,833 posts

111 months

Thursday 11th January 2018
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There are many major, complex problems in the world that need to be solved.

But this is the most pressing.