The Range Rover Classic thread:

[phib]

Purso said:

What did the landrover specialist do in Berkshire ?

Rear arches, burnt original carpets and damaged trim.

All irreplaceable as was 100% original

Phib

[akirk]

SDB660 said:

Well, let's hope for JLR sake that the cars are spot on when finished. Could make ten people litigious against JLR. My experience of OEM re-creations is that they do not know as much as they suggest they know. Is Kingsley the expert that beats JLR on detail? Have not a clue. Never dealt with them.

I only used Kingsley as an example as one of their cars was referenced just above... they certainly seem to positiOn themselves as a top level restorer, but I have no idea how accurate that is, and I am sure there are others offering similar work...

[stevehg1]

It's all simply a brand building exercise. It wasn't set up as a new revenue generating venture, although obviously the aim is for it to be profitable.

JLR are attempting to create the reputation that the likes of Ferrari, Mercedes, Aston Martin, Porsche etc. have with their factory classic restoration shops. Naturally you can't just build it up overnight, and simply building it out and hoping the customers come is also an expensive exercise. So when you think about it, these programs get JLR a lot of media attention and awareness of the new service; it enables the experience of the team to build up, whilst making money; and lets them demonstrate what they are capable of.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Jaguar initiative to extend production runs with continuing serial numbers some 50+ years later, but I can't see any harm in what LR are doing, which are straight forward restorations. The difference with the 'reborn' programs is that they put them back to factory spec, with seemingly no options to change.

Cheers, Steve

[Purso]

phib said:

Purso said:

What did the landrover specialist do in Berkshire ?

Rear arches, burnt original carpets and damaged trim.

All irreplaceable as was 100% original

Phib

How do you know this and what was done to the rear arches? What done to the trim?

[phib]

Purso said:

How do you know this and what was done to the rear arches? What done to the trim?

It was looked at by the factory

Phib

[SDB660]

phib said:

Purso said:

How do you know this and what was done to the rear arches? What done to the trim?

It was looked at by the factory

Phib

Don't want to get involved with commenting on this particular scenario, but the "looked at by the factory" thing. As a general rule, and I mean for most manufacturer's, give me a good long running specialist over the factory any day of the week. Factory might have plans and some people who worked on car when new, but the specialist will have been involved in a particular car day in day out for years and have a greater depth of knowledge. Difficulty is sorting the wheat from the chaff.

Edit: Exceptions are companies like Ferrari who have a history of looking after heritage, and this is key, the facts to back up what they do in form of plans, pictures of cars when new and previously restored/repaired etc.

Edited by SDB660 on Tuesday 7th February 08:08

[Purso]

Just find the comments a bit strange, admittedly I don't know the history of the car in great detail, but the interior appears completely stock, the carpets appear original or at the very least period correct and graham goodyer who I have good faith in says the car is one of the cleanest original examples he has seen. Anyway I am no rrc expert so I will stand corrected if what you have said turns out to be correct.

[phib]

Purso said:

Just find the comments a bit strange, admittedly I don't know the history of the car in great detail, but the interior appears completely stock, the carpets appear original or at the very least period correct and graham goodyer who I have good faith in says the car is one of the cleanest original examples he has seen. Anyway I am no rrc expert so I will stand corrected if what you have said turns out to be correct.

Sorry I should point out it is really a great car .. it could have been one of the best, it would have probably been one of the 10 that landrover used.

It was up until c. 2015 the only range rover classic with factory / main dealer history in the Uk (and potentially the world)

Worth having a chat with the owner who had it for the 20 years ( really nice guy) who bought it when it came from the factory , in all that time the only non standard part (or should I say non landrover part) was one of the rear quaterlights where it was broken into ... in 20 years ownership that pretty amazing !!

You have no reason to believe my comments however Drivers side (I think) rear wheelarch panel (the painted bit where the door closes) had a ripple in it from memory, unless this has been rectified by now and last main dealer service was in Ascot.

I wont say anymore as I cant for legal reasons, but enjoy

Phib

Edited by phib on Tuesday 7th February 15:39

Edited by phib on Tuesday 7th February 15:42

[squirdan]

squirdan said:

Anorak level detail I know - apologies

On my new In Vogue the wheel centres have been incorrectly painted

This can be seen comparing the 2 photos below - mine are blue vs the brochure clearly showing grey

Any idea how I can work out the correct shade of grey?

Edited by squirdan on Monday 16th January 17:20

Fast forward a few weeks - job done I think

[SDB660]

Looks really good.

[Paw]

Hi Phib, I just wondered if you have access to the old Special Vehicles info. My RRC is a SV build, then dispatched to a military contractor for addition work.

Thanks

Paul

[phib]

Paw said:

Hi Phib, I just wondered if you have access to the old Special Vehicles info. My RRC is a SV build, then dispatched to a military contractor for addition work.

Thanks

Paul

Not anymore I am afraid, however ( and this may be stating the obvious) if it has holes for an internal roll cage and was a dark color then it could have been special forces.

Best guy to ask is Richard Bacchus at the heritage center

Phib

[Purso]

phib said:

Purso said:

Just find the comments a bit strange, admittedly I don't know the history of the car in great detail, but the interior appears completely stock, the carpets appear original or at the very least period correct and graham goodyer who I have good faith in says the car is one of the cleanest original examples he has seen. Anyway I am no rrc expert so I will stand corrected if what you have said turns out to be correct.

Sorry I should point out it is really a great car .. it could have been one of the best, it would have probably been one of the 10 that landrover used.

It was up until c. 2015 the only range rover classic with factory / main dealer history in the Uk (and potentially the world)

Worth having a chat with the owner who had it for the 20 years ( really nice guy) who bought it when it came from the factory , in all that time the only non standard part (or should I say non landrover part) was one of the rear quaterlights where it was broken into ... in 20 years ownership that pretty amazing !!

You have no reason to believe my comments however Drivers side (I think) rear wheelarch panel (the painted bit where the door closes) had a ripple in it from memory, unless this has been rectified by now and last main dealer service was in Ascot.

I wont say anymore as I cant for legal reasons, but enjoy

Phib

Edited by phib on Tuesday 7th February 15:39

Edited by phib on Tuesday 7th February 15:42

Thank you very much, are you able to point me in the direction of the previous owner.

I will have a look at the wheel arch panned and share when I have seen them.

[Paw]

phib said:

Not anymore I am afraid, however ( and this may be stating the obvious) if it has holes for an internal roll cage and was a dark color then it could have been special forces.

Best guy to ask is Richard Bacchus at the heritage center

Phib

Thanks Phib, I will contact them. It's still the cage etc, and it's a manual rather than auto.

[Harleyboy]

A couple of years ago I purchased a reproduced Vogue SE decal from a guy on eBay. I can't find details of the transaction and have a friend in need of one. I've a feeling the seller is on PH so am hoping he, or something else could point me in the right direction please?

Cheers

[Benspickup]

Out of interest, it's fairly obvious what the holly grail of range rovers is, what are people's thoughts to which model is the most unloved?

I'm going to say a late 4 door diesel. Interesting to hear others view points

[wildcat45]

I'm certainly no expert, but I'd agree with the diesel, the VM version not the TDI 200.

[squirdan]

There has been good interest on here recently in "restomod" cars

I have seen this one myself when it was at Twenty Ten and it looked very nice

The advert is a little sparse on the details but for anyone after a fully done car that drives better and faster than standard this must be worth a look?



http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C835834

Edited by squirdan on Wednesday 15th February 08:43

[DonkeyApple]

Harleyboy said:

A couple of years ago I purchased a reproduced Vogue SE decal from a guy on eBay. I can't find details of the transaction and have a friend in need of one. I've a feeling the seller is on PH so am hoping he, or something else could point me in the right direction please?

Cheers

There are always some repo ones on EBay both silver and the earlier black and white.

[NomduJour]

Make sure the font is right - some of them are miles off.