The Range Rover Classic thread:

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DickyC

49,700 posts

198 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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goodwoodweirdo said:
thats bloody lovely... what a classic collection :-)
Thanks. The picture always makes me smile. The cars and marriage are long gone but I did manage to say to her around the time of the picture, "These are good times."

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Monday 15th June 2015
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Rangeroverover said:
Well done on pulling the trigger, just make sure you keep on top of any niggly bits that stop working or fall off; a catering pack of waxoyl is a worthwhile investment and getting all the bushes done. the handling will be transformed as you can bet nobody has attended to them in recent years.
Thanks, the suspension has all been replaced (HD spec coils and new dampers) so I'd assume (hope) he PB'd it at the same time (will check). Had all the rusty bits replaced (the before pics were shocking!). No sunroof to leak or A/C to go wrong. Will pop a CD player in (even has the sub in the boot) and some seat covers (drivers seat fabric is a lil worn) and that should be it smile . Only thing slightly concerning me is a slight noise from the PAS when turning on full lock but the fluid is a little low so I'll top it up before I drive home and see how I go.

Had a picture message from the seller showing the brand new MOT cert. 3 advisories. 2 for windscreen and one for.... an oil leak (It's a fecking Landie, they only don't leak when they are empty!)

Got a job lot of used engine oil (joys of a 7 litre (ish) sump in the IIA) that I'll give the underside a good dosing with (while saving up for a tanker of Waxoyl wink )

RicksAlfas

13,387 posts

244 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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Congrats on the purchase! You might find a CD changer hiding under the subwoofer in the boot.

0llie

3,007 posts

196 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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DickyC said:
What a superb pic.

I'm using my RRC this week, it's been in hibernation since February when I got my Cooper S. I've started it a couple of times, but it had been left alone for 2 months (outside but under a tarp). It fired straight on the key, and everything still works perfectly, superb!

Thoroughly enjoying cruising round in it again, making me not want to sell it...

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th June 2015
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RicksAlfas said:
Congrats on the purchase! You might find a CD changer hiding under the subwoofer in the boot.
Thanks, did have a glance but I didn't spot owt obvious. Will double check, if not I have a shiny new Sony unit to go in 'er smile

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th June 2015
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So I have collected le big barge tonight and already ended up in with a marquee in the back and a small offroad excursion. When I eventually got 'er up to speed (my 200TDi Series IIA would thrash 'er in a drag) I sat at 50-60 all the way home in surprisingly quiet surroundings. The only downside is that at some point between test drive and collection something is loose in the squab on the drivers seat. Will have to take the fabric off for a nose at some point.



Will be putting a new CD player in (checked and no sign of autochanger) and cleaning out the intercooler. Added bonus is the service book shows a FULL service history, from the first service in '94 up to the oil change in January '15.

Also came with some shots of the work done to it (rear as an example)...



RicksAlfas

13,387 posts

244 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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It's good that has been sorted. Worth taking the boot carpet out every so often to make sure it still looks like the bottom photo and not the top!

The CD changer fits under the sub woofer on the right.

Mine was pressed into service after a scout event. I bumbled around a park whilst two very giddy cubs jumped in and out of the back picking up tent pegs and what have you. biggrin

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

124 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Brings back fond memories of my RRC - a 91 model Vogue 3.9i shed. Bought it for £600 complete with LPG. It was bought sight unseen (not even a photo) off a certain online auction site....
A family of hippies had lived in it for a year while travelling round Spain. I t was interesting what we found under the carpet etc when we cleaned it out (first priority as it was a tip inside). The head lining sagged more than a bedouins tent so that was the first thing to be sorted.
Over the next couple of years it had a blown headgasket so the engine was pulled, new cam, followers, heads skimmed .020" and all put back together (it was in great nick for 180k miles!). Fitted a pair of tubular manifolds and a stainless straight through exhaust and went out and had some fun. It got a 2" lift for a while when I was playing with it off road and a set of bigger wheels (Wolf wheels shod with G90s off my Defender). It was great fun!

Clip of it in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVhQ98C984 (7:54 on is best - the load whirring is the electric fans running).

Sold it about a year after this for £600.
All in all it was a great car and never needed any welding on the chassis - just the usual corner of the rear arch/C pillar junction.

Autolycus

67 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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The 300tdi auto L89DRU was mine from 2005 until March last year - and it certainly didn't have a full service history then. IIRC the first owner was some television person or other, (Dinnage?), and I bought it from a bloke in Leicester, and sold it to someone near Shrewsbury. It had been regularly serviced earlier in its life, with stamps in the book, but I did everything myself.

When I sold it, the rear floor and body crossmember were rotting, the ABS light was hidden by a piece of card in front of the bulb ( I told the buyer!), and it was leaking from the heater O-rings. Still regret selling it.

Kevin

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Autolycus said:
The 300tdi auto L89DRU was mine from 2005 until March last year - and it certainly didn't have a full service history then. IIRC the first owner was some television person or other, (Dinnage?), and I bought it from a bloke in Leicester, and sold it to someone near Shrewsbury. It had been regularly serviced earlier in its life, with stamps in the book, but I did everything myself.

When I sold it, the rear floor and body crossmember were rotting, the ABS light was hidden by a piece of card in front of the bulb ( I told the buyer!), and it was leaking from the heater O-rings. Still regret selling it.

Kevin
Well I'll be! Hello wavey

Someone (unlike when I service my MX-5) appears to have filled in the book pretty well (if not all dealer stamps) complete with lots of notes about when extra bits were done (cambelt etc). Something I should really do when I service my cars (but invariably forget.

As you can see the interim owner (bought it from the guy in S'bury, He's after a TD5 Disco to replace it as he wants the 7-seats) fixed the floor and crossmember, ABS light now functions and (small oil leak aside - it wears a green oval after all) doesn't appear to be leaking. Did have a funny noise from the NS swivel housing. Put a 1-shot sachet of grease in earlier (all of it eek) and it seems a lot happier smile.

Any interesting info or pics you could PM me? Has quite a chunk of old receipts/ MOTs etc but it's always nice to have more (I'm sad like that wink )

Edited by carmadgaz on Friday 26th June 01:15

Autolycus

67 posts

143 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Hi,
One correction to my last post about L89: it was the SRS light that was blanked off, not the ABS. Past my bedtime when I posted. It had a leak from the steering box for years, but a quick rub over with a rag kept the MoT tester happy. The rear wiper didn't work, the central locking worked from the key but not the plip, the steering damper was weak, and it was desperately overdue a cambelt and brake fluid change.

But it was the most comfortable car to drive that I've ever owned, never let me down, and towed superbly, albeit a bit slowly on long motorway inclines. Wish I'd looked after it better. My lady wife complained that it smelled horrible inside, even before the heater leak became obvious.

I'll see what I can dig out about it, but I think I handed most of it over. I followed it up with a Defender 110 200tdi, but Land Rover clutches and my knee are no longer a viable combination, so I'm actively looking for another automatic Range Rover, ideally with even fewer toys. I'll live without ABS, TC, SRS, and indeed TLAs generally.

Kevin


carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Autolycus said:
Hi,
One correction to my last post about L89: it was the SRS light that was blanked off, not the ABS. Past my bedtime when I posted. It had a leak from the steering box for years, but a quick rub over with a rag kept the MoT tester happy. The rear wiper didn't work, the central locking worked from the key but not the plip, the steering damper was weak, and it was desperately overdue a cambelt and brake fluid change.

But it was the most comfortable car to drive that I've ever owned, never let me down, and towed superbly, albeit a bit slowly on long motorway inclines. Wish I'd looked after it better. My lady wife complained that it smelled horrible inside, even before the heater leak became obvious.

I'll see what I can dig out about it, but I think I handed most of it over. I followed it up with a Defender 110 200tdi, but Land Rover clutches and my knee are no longer a viable combination, so I'm actively looking for another automatic Range Rover, ideally with even fewer toys. I'll live without ABS, TC, SRS, and indeed TLAs generally.

Kevin
Ahh yes the SRS light still appears inoperable. Astoundingly goes through an MOT like it! Cambelt has now been done. Wiper and plipper now work but the damper is still a little weak.Even had a new headlining biggrin

Yeah my IIA was sat for several weeks after I tweaked my sciatic nerve, couldn't operate the clutch frown . Yeah the TLA are a pain, one of the appeals of DRU were the lack of A/C or sunroof. Old girl has done 188k now so don't expect 'er to be perfect.

Thanks beer

DonkeyApple

Original Poster:

55,180 posts

169 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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carmadgaz said:
Ahh yes the SRS light still appears inoperable. Astoundingly goes through an MOT like it! Cambelt has now been done. Wiper and plipper now work but the damper is still a little weak.Even had a new headlining biggrin

Yeah my IIA was sat for several weeks after I tweaked my sciatic nerve, couldn't operate the clutch frown . Yeah the TLA are a pain, one of the appeals of DRU were the lack of A/C or sunroof. Old girl has done 188k now so don't expect 'er to be perfect.

Thanks beer
Of the steering fluid has been leaking for a while then it's worth checking for play on the panhard road at that end as the fluid speeds up the deterioration of the rubber bush. Once that starts going you start getting more wobbles when driving.

If it does have play then you can replace the rod for a few quid and it transforms the drive.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

183 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
Of the steering fluid has been leaking for a while then it's worth checking for play on the panhard road at that end as the fluid speeds up the deterioration of the rubber bush. Once that starts going you start getting more wobbles when driving.

If it does have play then you can replace the rod for a few quid and it transforms the drive.
Apparently the panhard was done among the refurb bits smile . It did come with a set of replacement bushes for it as well smile

Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

273 months

Friday 26th June 2015
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Have a chat with Bill at Autoland in Dunstable - he's a mine of knowledge and probably knows a car

Autolycus said:
Hi,
One correction to my last post about L89: it was the SRS light that was blanked off, not the ABS. Past my bedtime when I posted. It had a leak from the steering box for years, but a quick rub over with a rag kept the MoT tester happy. The rear wiper didn't work, the central locking worked from the key but not the plip, the steering damper was weak, and it was desperately overdue a cambelt and brake fluid change.

But it was the most comfortable car to drive that I've ever owned, never let me down, and towed superbly, albeit a bit slowly on long motorway inclines. Wish I'd looked after it better. My lady wife complained that it smelled horrible inside, even before the heater leak became obvious.

I'll see what I can dig out about it, but I think I handed most of it over. I followed it up with a Defender 110 200tdi, but Land Rover clutches and my knee are no longer a viable combination, so I'm actively looking for another automatic Range Rover, ideally with even fewer toys. I'll live without ABS, TC, SRS, and indeed TLAs generally.

Kevin

Skyedriver

17,825 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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A V8 on LPG or a 300TDi?
there seems a reasonable diesel for sale at the minute but thinking it'll be a trifle slow and less economical than a V8 on LPG

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

111 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Hi I have a 3.9 on lpg, i paay about 65p per litre for it which with probably 80% efficiency makes it seem in money terms like 28-30mpg.

The drawback I have is a lack of lpg forecourts close to me, nearest is about 8 miles and not usually on my way to anywhere. If you have lpg available easily it's worthwhile otherwise you do end up using petrol for the sake of convenience.

I don't regret it and having now driven a diesel classic much prefer the petrol/lpg version

Skyedriver

17,825 posts

282 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Just been chatting to a guy this afternon ( he bought some Volvo wheels off me). He rather backs up what you say, the LPG V8 would be faster and more economical than the 300tdi

DKL

4,488 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th June 2015
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Rangeroverover said:
Hi I have a 3.9 on lpg, i paay about 65p per litre for it which with probably 80% efficiency makes it seem in money terms like 28-30mpg.

The drawback I have is a lack of lpg forecourts close to me, nearest is about 8 miles and not usually on my way to anywhere. If you have lpg available easily it's worthwhile otherwise you do end up using petrol for the sake of convenience.

I don't regret it and having now driven a diesel classic much prefer the petrol/lpg version
I'm in a similar position. I pay 58 ppl through the countrywide scheme but Swindon only has this and one other fuel station with LPG and they are virtually next to each other. So I have to do a couple of extra miles to fill up. I put quite a bit of petrol through too but it is a bit scary watching a tank full disappear.

DonkeyApple

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55,180 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Best solution for fuel economy is to simply never look at the pump when filling up. Over 21 years of driving cars I know are thirsty I couldn't tell you the MPG of any, except one and that was the Overfinch when I became a little suspicious so for once checked the pump numbers and calculated a London mpg of 4.5 biggrin

But knowing a fun car's normal MPG cannot ever bring any form of pleasure so I never calculate it or pay any attention at the pump. biggrin

It's like going bald. It happens. Spending more money on fancy solutions isn't going to make your hair grow back and checking it in the mirror every day isn't going to bring any happiness. smile