The Range Rover Classic thread:

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phib

4,464 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Have to say I would seriously avoid LPG unless you know anything about it.

My last 50th had LPG and it had two faults we could never sort in 4 years of ownership, no matter what I did. Drove me demented.

Now have a 50th and 3.9 Vogue SE ( both non LPG) that are good as gold ( famous last words !!)

No idea on MPG, would seriously take away from the enjoyment if I knew as I would be tiptoeing around everywhere.

Phib

Autolycus

67 posts

144 months

Wednesday 1st July 2015
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Jasper Gilder said:
Have a chat with Bill at Autoland in Dunstable - he's a mine of knowledge and probably knows a car

Autolycus said:
... I followed it up with a Defender 110 200tdi, but Land Rover clutches and my knee are no longer a viable combination, so I'm actively looking for another automatic Range Rover, ideally with even fewer toys. I'll live without ABS, TC, SRS, and indeed TLAs generally.

Kevin
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm rather restricted on travelling far from the Derby area at the moment, but I'll keep him in mind.

I've had an LPG-powered early auto in the past, but found I was like a dog and lamp-posts with filling stations - you just had to stop every time you came across one. Planning journeys became a major exercise, then you found your planned stop had run out, or a car was blocking the only lpg pump while the owner did the weekly shop. This was a non-injected type, with no lambda sensor, and gave me less than 3 miles/litre, whereas the 300tdi gave between 5 and 7. I liked the sound of the V8, but not its fussiness over maintenance. The 300tdi just worked, and pulled well from junctions, even with a trailer on, but ran out of go on, for example, that long haul up from Leicester Forest East when you'd got 2 1/2 tons on the back.

Given the shortage of decent Classics, I've even briefly contemplated a P38 (and my own Lynx diagnostics kit), but once I'd taken my tablets, I got over it.

Kevin


ClaphamGT3

11,305 posts

244 months

Sunday 16th August 2015
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My Classic not being a garage queen on Salisbury Plain yesterday...



DonkeyApple

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55,396 posts

170 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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If anyone has a spare £200k knocking about then this might be of interest: http://www.honychurch.com/cars/rare-1970-first-pro...


Certainly more original than the Huddersfield one that sold for £140k last year. While I was working on one of mine today the price of Andrew's one was mentioned.

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
If anyone has a spare £200k knocking about then this might be of interest: http://www.honychurch.com/cars/rare-1970-first-pro...
Aluminium bonnet - I could do with one of those!

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

184 months

Tuesday 29th September 2015
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Holy cow that's a lotta dollar for a Rangie as nice as they are redface

DonkeyApple

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55,396 posts

170 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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I was heading out of town earlier in the week and the previous day, in the rain, I'd given the 4 door a thorough clean so it was looking top notch. When I stopped for fuel at Sctratchwood a bloke filling up next door paid a compliment to the car as did the chap behind the counter. While stationary on the M25 two people knocked on the glass to chat about old Rangies and got a few toots and waves later on the M40. It's amazing how much more relaxing driving is when in a car where people will openly chat and let you out at junctions etc.

MrMoonyMan

2,584 posts

212 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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They are great for that smile

I've got a couple of older cars which I love dearly but not everyone gets. Since I've had the Range Rover it's been loved by all of my friends and family that have been around it. Everyone's a fan!

Was working last week when some chaps turned up having seen it out side and were dead set on buying it from me. They asked what I wanted, I doubled what it owes me and they were willing to pay it: thought about it for the weekend and I just don't want to be parted from her. Have had her 18mnths now and she hasn't put a foot wrong. Funny how they get under your skin.:

Qcarchoo

471 posts

194 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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I've always had a soft spot for the older Range Rovers but never owned one.
I think it's something to do with watching The Persuaders as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6o-ss-1hM8

There was what looked like a nice early one on ebay recently: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-RANGE-2-Door-Suffi...

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

184 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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I've had my '94 RRC for a few months now and despite it costing me nearly £1k in repairs the last few weeks (both front swivels/CV's/ bearings etc have had to be replaced) and the fact I can be overtaken by glaciers I am so glad I scratched the itch.



Old bus is comfortable, pulls a trailer without much difference to the awful performance (even with the swivels like this^^), does 30mpg and even makes for a reasonable camper van when it has been required smile


DickyC

49,790 posts

199 months

Saturday 9th January 2016
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carmadgaz said:
I've had my '94 RRC for a few months now and despite it costing me nearly £1k in repairs the last few weeks (both front swivels/CV's/ bearings etc have had to be replaced) and the fact I can be overtaken by glaciers I am so glad I scratched the itch.



Old bus is comfortable, pulls a trailer without much difference to the awful performance (even with the swivels like this^^), does 30mpg and even makes for a reasonable camper van when it has been required smile

Do the swivels still have leather seals?

I bought my A suffix in 1981 and sold it in 1991 so I reckon I did the front axle 30 years ago and, to my surprise, the seals were leather. The company I dealt with for spares were Dingocroft in Downley near High Wycombe.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

184 months

Sunday 10th January 2016
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DickyC said:
Do the swivels still have leather seals?

I bought my A suffix in 1981 and sold it in 1991 so I reckon I did the front axle 30 years ago and, to my surprise, the seals were leather. The company I dealt with for spares were Dingocroft in Downley near High Wycombe.
I really don't know tbh Dicky!

Got the Intercooler pipes tightened up today (cleaned the 'cooler out the other day and a whistle indicated I'd not done a jubilee up properly upon refit) . Also treated the old bus to a sticker wink


Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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Mine is down on the bump stops as the air suspension has flagged a fault and now won't rise

bloody laptop still won't connect, think i'm going to remake the diagnostics wire ans i can't see any other reason for the EAS software not to connect

DonkeyApple

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55,396 posts

170 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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Vixpy1 said:
Mine is down on the bump stops as the air suspension has flagged a fault and now won't rise

bloody laptop still won't connect, think i'm going to remake the diagnostics wire ans i can't see any other reason for the EAS software not to connect
I once had to drive my Overfinch back from the West Country in its stops. That wasn't a pleasant journey.

While owning that car I built up a list of garages in the South who had one of the old plug in Land Rover units to reset the system as it used to shut down above a certain speed (let's say 100 as an easy number in this example). I took the car to endless 'specialists' who were nothing of the sort until I was out somewhere one day and a random meeting and conversation led to a chap telling me the fault would be down to an incorrect pulley size on the alternator where the system took an auxiliary reading from.

Sure enough, Overfinch used a different pulley and what I subsequently learned was that this meant the reading from the alternator was out but within tolerance until a certain speed was reached and then it tripped the system. Fitted a standard LR end and the problem went away.

Other people have had an issue with the wire off the alternator being loose and that will trigger a shut down also.

Vixpy1

42,625 posts

265 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Vixpy1 said:
Mine is down on the bump stops as the air suspension has flagged a fault and now won't rise

bloody laptop still won't connect, think i'm going to remake the diagnostics wire ans i can't see any other reason for the EAS software not to connect
I once had to drive my Overfinch back from the West Country in its stops. That wasn't a pleasant journey.

While owning that car I built up a list of garages in the South who had one of the old plug in Land Rover units to reset the system as it used to shut down above a certain speed (let's say 100 as an easy number in this example). I took the car to endless 'specialists' who were nothing of the sort until I was out somewhere one day and a random meeting and conversation led to a chap telling me the fault would be down to an incorrect pulley size on the alternator where the system took an auxiliary reading from.

Sure enough, Overfinch used a different pulley and what I subsequently learned was that this meant the reading from the alternator was out but within tolerance until a certain speed was reached and then it tripped the system. Fitted a standard LR end and the problem went away.

Other people have had an issue with the wire off the alternator being loose and that will trigger a shut down also.
Keith Gott seemed to know their stuff, I've got plans for the Rangie this year

DonkeyApple

Original Poster:

55,396 posts

170 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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Vixpy1 said:
Keith Gott seemed to know their stuff, I've got plans for the Rangie this year
Not aware of them. I know the quick fix is to swap the air system to standard springs but if the car is for road use then the air system is simply so much better that any quality solution that remedies its reliability would be my choice.

NomduJour

19,133 posts

260 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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The air is so simple it's just retarded to swap to coils. LPG and coil springs would lead me to run a mile from one.

Rangeroverover

1,523 posts

112 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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MrMoonyMan said:
They are great for that smile

I've got a couple of older cars which I love dearly but not everyone gets. Since I've had the Range Rover it's been loved by all of my friends and family that have been around it. Everyone's a fan!

Was working last week when some chaps turned up having seen it out side and were dead set on buying it from me. They asked what I wanted, I doubled what it owes me and they were willing to pay it: thought about it for the weekend and I just don't want to be parted from her. Have had her 18mnths now and she hasn't put a foot wrong. Funny how they get under your skin.:
pass me their details please

Hooli

32,278 posts

201 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Vixpy1 said:
Keith Gott seemed to know their stuff, I've got plans for the Rangie this year
Not aware of them. I know the quick fix is to swap the air system to standard springs but if the car is for road use then the air system is simply so much better that any quality solution that remedies its reliability would be my choice.
I used to know a bloke who worked for them, what he didn't know about LR stuff wasn't worth knowing.

vjj

592 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Hello Donkey Apple and friends
Not been on for a while - great to see a RRC thread.

I have a low mileage 1988 4 door at the moment in caspian blue - one of the first Vogue SE models

The original 3.5 has been replaced with a stroked 4.5 litre based on a 3.5 with a +020 overbore, Stage 3 heads and a real steel stump puller cam

It currently has a chipped ecu and flapper injection but there is a brand new 4 barrel edelbrock 500 carb and performer intake in the back awaiting fitment -it has a Janspeed exhaust,quick steering rack, uprated brakes and lowered suspension - it is lovely

I also have custody of my mates 1987 Overfinch 6.3 litre 4 door with just 36000 miles on the clock from new - that is a real beast.

Happy new year to all