The Range Rover Classic thread:
Discussion
jon-yprpe said:
Rostyles are fine on 235s, and you can go tubeless with the later (common) welded ones. All the alloys are a little wider and are fine with 235s.
18s can be cool as well, esp on the later cars.
I am also a huge fan of the TWR 5 spokes and the LSE/CSK alloys.
On a tangent - beautiful car18s can be cool as well, esp on the later cars.
I am also a huge fan of the TWR 5 spokes and the LSE/CSK alloys.
Number plate reminds me - I used to own ANR 77Y - but it was a 4 door In Vogue
jon-yprpe said:
Rostyles are fine on 235s, and you can go tubeless with the later (common) welded ones. All the alloys are a little wider and are fine with 235s.
18s can be cool as well, esp on the later cars.
I am also a huge fan of the TWR 5 spokes and the LSE/CSK alloys.
Mine will be a later vehicle on a j reg which is csk era. I like the chrome bumper look, which goes well with a silver or Westminster grey body but all modern cars are grey now. Traditional dark green perhaps? Did actually think of imperial green from the famed lotus carlton? Sunroof? Do I fit that or keep solid? I have sunroof and air conditioning parts from the donor. If I delete the sunroof it’s one less future leak problem perhaps.18s can be cool as well, esp on the later cars.
I am also a huge fan of the TWR 5 spokes and the LSE/CSK alloys.
Then lastly I have the high level fuel filler. Is it worth changing that panel to the csk version? Especially if I go with chrome bumpers? Hmmm ……lots of wonderings and maybe’s
My thoughts re the fuel filler is that you are creating your own car and changing a whole chunk of metal and sourcing the new swan neck etc just to try and appease the type of punter that can never be appeased, (nor should ever be pandered to in my book but told to sod off to Dunsfield or Craddock if they want to slobber over supposedly factory original museum pieces) is a waste of time and money. 
Re sunroofs, I avoid them like the plague as they result in my head hitting the edge of them. And if I were going to do one I'd get an old roof panel and fit a panoramic system from a modern hatchback that had a close enough roof profile. I seem to recall researching this and a Peugeot appeared to fit that bill. We Bastos are great but noisy and no one ever points out that to pull it all the way back you have to climb in the back.
Stepping back to wheels, have you considered the LSE alloys? I quite liked those. You've also got Wolfrace T5 Turbines although they tend to demand a car is painted orange and a confederate flag is painted on the roof. Which is fine, but I'm too old to try and leap through the windows of something as tall as a Rangie.
Re sunroofs, I avoid them like the plague as they result in my head hitting the edge of them. And if I were going to do one I'd get an old roof panel and fit a panoramic system from a modern hatchback that had a close enough roof profile. I seem to recall researching this and a Peugeot appeared to fit that bill. We Bastos are great but noisy and no one ever points out that to pull it all the way back you have to climb in the back.
Stepping back to wheels, have you considered the LSE alloys? I quite liked those. You've also got Wolfrace T5 Turbines although they tend to demand a car is painted orange and a confederate flag is painted on the roof. Which is fine, but I'm too old to try and leap through the windows of something as tall as a Rangie.
DonkeyApple said:
My thoughts re the fuel filler is that you are creating your own car and changing a whole chunk of metal and sourcing the new swan neck etc just to try and appease the type of punter that can never be appeased, (nor should ever be pandered to in my book but told to sod off to Dunsfield or Craddock if they want to slobber over supposedly factory original museum pieces) is a waste of time and money.
Re sunroofs, I avoid them like the plague as they result in my head hitting the edge of them. And if I were going to do one I'd get an old roof panel and fit a panoramic system from a modern hatchback that had a close enough roof profile. I seem to recall researching this and a Peugeot appeared to fit that bill. We Bastos are great but noisy and no one ever points out that to pull it all the way back you have to climb in the back.
Stepping back to wheels, have you considered the LSE alloys? I quite liked those. You've also got Wolfrace T5 Turbines although they tend to demand a car is painted orange and a confederate flag is painted on the roof. Which is fine, but I'm too old to try and leap through the windows of something as tall as a Rangie.
With you on the wolfrace turbines. Although painted red white and blue with a union flag on the roof and a horn that plays Elgar could be more at home in our green and pleasant and somewhat muddy lands!Re sunroofs, I avoid them like the plague as they result in my head hitting the edge of them. And if I were going to do one I'd get an old roof panel and fit a panoramic system from a modern hatchback that had a close enough roof profile. I seem to recall researching this and a Peugeot appeared to fit that bill. We Bastos are great but noisy and no one ever points out that to pull it all the way back you have to climb in the back.
Stepping back to wheels, have you considered the LSE alloys? I quite liked those. You've also got Wolfrace T5 Turbines although they tend to demand a car is painted orange and a confederate flag is painted on the roof. Which is fine, but I'm too old to try and leap through the windows of something as tall as a Rangie.
Late 2 doors look good on the lse wheels, again it’s that csk thing. I don’t want to build a csk replica but that collection of parts do make a good looking vehicle.
The other thing is build a back date with the late seats/interior? Would look odd though.
I need a relatively simple build.
RobXjcoupe said:
With you on the wolfrace turbines. Although painted red white and blue with a union flag on the roof and a horn that plays Elgar could be more at home in our green and pleasant and somewhat muddy lands!
Late 2 doors look good on the lse wheels, again it’s that csk thing. I don’t want to build a csk replica but that collection of parts do make a good looking vehicle.
The other thing is build a back date with the late seats/interior? Would look odd though.
I need a relatively simple build.
What I will say is that you need to choose your end look in advance and based on which bolt in bits are available for bugger all and which ones are like hen's teeth and cost a fortune. Late 2 doors look good on the lse wheels, again it’s that csk thing. I don’t want to build a csk replica but that collection of parts do make a good looking vehicle.
The other thing is build a back date with the late seats/interior? Would look odd though.
I need a relatively simple build.
When I built mine I knew I wanted to use it as a daily but I also knew I wanted to retain the general exterior bits of a '72.
You saw my two door? It's a complete Frankenstein, dedicated 100% to what I wanted and liked from all the one's I've owned over the last 30 years.
It has the early dash as I think that's nicer. It has the late trans tunnel as I knew it needed to be auto as I don't like how the manuals drive. It has the later seating as it's more comfortable, trimmed up a similar way to my old LSE Overfinch as I liked that retro 70s type of stitching. It has LSE rear lights for safety. The door capping a from an In Vogue and the binnacles from a Monteverdi.
Ultimately, it's build from 100% original and authentic parts but I just chose the bits I wanted from from 25 years of production. The only non Rangie part is the XJS gear shift surround as it goes one higher than the original Rangie one.
Also, don't forget that the later two doors had different rear quarter panels than the early ones. The early ones have a flare out but the 90s 2 doors are completely flat so I always think that later design looks slightly off when done up with all the early exterior trim.
I agree with DA - choose your look and go for what you want…both looks-wise, practicality-wise and ease-wise. Mine is a complete mongrel, but it’s what I want (although I have wobbled on coloured C pillars and silver bumpers, but I am now cured).
Bits changed every year and what you thought was an easy job turned taking part x from one year, and part Y from another out to be a headscratcher.
But I do like the CSK look - and remember, it’s not a CSK look if it’s not black. It’s just a very cool looking Rangie.
Bits changed every year and what you thought was an easy job turned taking part x from one year, and part Y from another out to be a headscratcher.
But I do like the CSK look - and remember, it’s not a CSK look if it’s not black. It’s just a very cool looking Rangie.
DonkeyApple said:
RobXjcoupe said:
With you on the wolfrace turbines. Although painted red white and blue with a union flag on the roof and a horn that plays Elgar could be more at home in our green and pleasant and somewhat muddy lands!
Late 2 doors look good on the lse wheels, again it’s that csk thing. I don’t want to build a csk replica but that collection of parts do make a good looking vehicle.
The other thing is build a back date with the late seats/interior? Would look odd though.
I need a relatively simple build.
What I will say is that you need to choose your end look in advance and based on which bolt in bits are available for bugger all and which ones are like hen's teeth and cost a fortune. Late 2 doors look good on the lse wheels, again it’s that csk thing. I don’t want to build a csk replica but that collection of parts do make a good looking vehicle.
The other thing is build a back date with the late seats/interior? Would look odd though.
I need a relatively simple build.
When I built mine I knew I wanted to use it as a daily but I also knew I wanted to retain the general exterior bits of a '72.
You saw my two door? It's a complete Frankenstein, dedicated 100% to what I wanted and liked from all the one's I've owned over the last 30 years.
It has the early dash as I think that's nicer. It has the late trans tunnel as I knew it needed to be auto as I don't like how the manuals drive. It has the later seating as it's more comfortable, trimmed up a similar way to my old LSE Overfinch as I liked that retro 70s type of stitching. It has LSE rear lights for safety. The door capping a from an In Vogue and the binnacles from a Monteverdi.
Ultimately, it's build from 100% original and authentic parts but I just chose the bits I wanted from from 25 years of production. The only non Rangie part is the XJS gear shift surround as it goes one higher than the original Rangie one.
Also, don't forget that the later two doors had different rear quarter panels than the early ones. The early ones have a flare out but the 90s 2 doors are completely flat so I always think that later design looks slightly off when done up with all the early exterior trim.
So if I did change the fuel filler location I would need to change both rear quarters because of the flare?
Im gonna keep mine auto. Tweak the engine a bit but overall keep running gear standard.
The front seats I’m intrigued to see if I can build them with the electric adjustment and still flip forward. I’m fortunate to be able to do my own interior upholstery. I still have access to lathes and milling machines which helps with worn out or corroded parts that need repair.
Chassis wise it won’t be driven off-road much so can possibly go with a slight reduction in ride height.
I’m not far from early retirement so my fingers are crossed I get this car finished so I can just enjoy it with just required maintenance
. Oh and post lots of pictures of it jon-yprpe said:
I agree with DA - choose your look and go for what you want…both looks-wise, practicality-wise and ease-wise. Mine is a complete mongrel, but it’s what I want (although I have wobbled on coloured C pillars and silver bumpers, but I am now cured).
Bits changed every year and what you thought was an easy job turned taking part x from one year, and part Y from another out to be a headscratcher.
But I do like the CSK look - and remember, it’s not a CSK look if it’s not black. It’s just a very cool looking Rangie.
Cap tipped regarding the csk look Bits changed every year and what you thought was an easy job turned taking part x from one year, and part Y from another out to be a headscratcher.
But I do like the CSK look - and remember, it’s not a CSK look if it’s not black. It’s just a very cool looking Rangie.
He's still trying to sell me a Jeep. . He's got a superb dark blue one that doesn't have any of the walty military stuff and would make a great summer pub wagon but I know I'll never use it enough to warrant the hassle.
You don't need the older rear panels to change the fuel filler location but it's worth remembering that you'd need a pair if you did want to just swap for simplicity otherwise the two sides of the car won't match.
Re seats, people have used later electric 4 door seats in the 2 doors, they do slide forward to be able to squeeze into the back but I never thought it ideal.
A seat that I very seriously considered was the electric ones from the E90 3 series convertible. Slid forward and flipped on electric, plus had the seat belt mechanism in the back of the seat. The other one was the XJS seat, which had a more traditional look.
. He's got a superb dark blue one that doesn't have any of the walty military stuff and would make a great summer pub wagon but I know I'll never use it enough to warrant the hassle. You don't need the older rear panels to change the fuel filler location but it's worth remembering that you'd need a pair if you did want to just swap for simplicity otherwise the two sides of the car won't match.
Re seats, people have used later electric 4 door seats in the 2 doors, they do slide forward to be able to squeeze into the back but I never thought it ideal.
A seat that I very seriously considered was the electric ones from the E90 3 series convertible. Slid forward and flipped on electric, plus had the seat belt mechanism in the back of the seat. The other one was the XJS seat, which had a more traditional look.
ReformedPistonhead said:
I was reformed as I drove a Tesla for 3 years, fortunately that is gone and replaced by a new 5.0l V8 Defender and of course my 3.9 Classic for fishing days.
Your Car looks nice, that field looks more like the sea the way the car is sunk in it. Sadly from what you describe I think it is a step too far for me to take on but thank you.
If you’re looking for something that needs very little welding I may have something suitable. Realised I’ve bought too many projects at the same time! Your Car looks nice, that field looks more like the sea the way the car is sunk in it. Sadly from what you describe I think it is a step too far for me to take on but thank you.
DonkeyApple said:
He's still trying to sell me a Jeep. . He's got a superb dark blue one that doesn't have any of the walty military stuff and would make a great summer pub wagon but I know I'll never use it enough to warrant the hassle.
You don't need the older rear panels to change the fuel filler location but it's worth remembering that you'd need a pair if you did want to just swap for simplicity otherwise the two sides of the car won't match.
Re seats, people have used later electric 4 door seats in the 2 doors, they do slide forward to be able to squeeze into the back but I never thought it ideal.
A seat that I very seriously considered was the electric ones from the E90 3 series convertible. Slid forward and flipped on electric, plus had the seat belt mechanism in the back of the seat. The other one was the XJS seat, which had a more traditional look.
I looked at the xjs seat, keeps it simple with a little extra side support. I think to convert the late genuine 2 door seats to electric is making the flip forward mechanism work with the backrest adjustment, I’m sure it’s doable but it’s how much effort in making parts to do that.. He's got a superb dark blue one that doesn't have any of the walty military stuff and would make a great summer pub wagon but I know I'll never use it enough to warrant the hassle. You don't need the older rear panels to change the fuel filler location but it's worth remembering that you'd need a pair if you did want to just swap for simplicity otherwise the two sides of the car won't match.
Re seats, people have used later electric 4 door seats in the 2 doors, they do slide forward to be able to squeeze into the back but I never thought it ideal.
A seat that I very seriously considered was the electric ones from the E90 3 series convertible. Slid forward and flipped on electric, plus had the seat belt mechanism in the back of the seat. The other one was the XJS seat, which had a more traditional look.
Also looking at my 92 interior the centre console looked like it’s missing a lid but turns out it’s the version to hold the car phone. Any idea what model phone that was? That would be a natty mod to have working
Yup, later electric seats do have a motorised rake so it's plausible to run a bypass of the standard seat controls to have a switch that moves the seat forward and pulls the back up. It would be very slow and with good potential for borkage.
Re the centre console, do you mean you've got a cubby lid with the big phone recess in it? I think they appeared as an option in the 1990 refresh.
Re the centre console, do you mean you've got a cubby lid with the big phone recess in it? I think they appeared as an option in the 1990 refresh.
Handset (no base, though): https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235046079316
On a slightly unrelated note (but thanks to a post on this thread that I found him) got my Rangie back from Rich fabrications. He built and fitted a full mainfold to twin tailpipe system. Best money I’ve spent - not only does it have noticeably more torque, but it sounds glorious. Like a yank V8. I actually have two glorious sounds courtesy of a switchable valve. Plus it is a work of art - Rich is a craftsman and very much into doing a fantastic job.
Driving it puts a massive grin on my face.
Driving it puts a massive grin on my face.
jon-yprpe said:
On a slightly unrelated note (but thanks to a post on this thread that I found him) got my Rangie back from Rich fabrications. He built and fitted a full mainfold to twin tailpipe system. Best money I’ve spent - not only does it have noticeably more torque, but it sounds glorious. Like a yank V8. I actually have two glorious sounds courtesy of a switchable valve. Plus it is a work of art - Rich is a craftsman and very much into doing a fantastic job.
Driving it puts a massive grin on my face.
Some excellent plumbing work there Driving it puts a massive grin on my face.
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