The Range Rover Classic thread:

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NomduJour

19,144 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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Why only four litre?

squirdan

1,083 posts

148 months

Thursday 29th September 2016
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"Only 4 litres" well it's 0.5 more than it came with!

Restoration job for sale when finished

Super rare 1982 early 4 door in special order black

Have to be honest the appeal to me in these is not speed! Got an R Nine T and an R26.R for that

soxboy

6,280 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Rather frustratingly, now I have what I thought was sufficient money to buy one the market rises over and above my budget. I realised that the 2dr ship had sailed had been looking to spend around £4k with a view to getting a tidy 4dr and possibly doing a bit of a 'backdate' to early spec - I had a 1982/3 brochure when I was a kid and to me that 'look' was always the one that I liked the most, plus I liked the look of the ones used in A View To A Kill.

It seems that what was £4k 12 months ago is now double that. Is this the case or am I just looking in the wrong places?

I suppose I could always jump on a plane to the continent. Could make an interesting road trip...

DonkeyApple

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55,408 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Wrong places, I think.

The problem is that it's actually a mine field. There are some excellent, solid cars being sold for under £5k and some rotten dogs for £25k.

I think if you hunted well and knew what you were looking for there are still cheap cars out there. But I think the early 80s 4 doors are the next to go up exactly because their exterior trim makes them look far more 'classic' than the more ubiquitous later cars.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Wrong places, I think.

The problem is that it's actually a mine field. There are some excellent, solid cars being sold for under £5k and some rotten dogs for £25k.

I think if you hunted well and knew what you were looking for there are still cheap cars out there. But I think the early 80s 4 doors are the next to go up exactly because their exterior trim makes them look far more 'classic' than the more ubiquitous later cars.
This is true - I bought an ebay special thinking it would be a skip run car and it is superb.
Have also looked at some superficially shiney ones that are nowhere near as good one you look past the paint - for 5 times the money.




DonkeyApple

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55,408 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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desolate said:
This is true - I bought an ebay special thinking it would be a skip run car and it is superb.
Have also looked at some superficially shiney ones that are nowhere near as good one you look past the paint - for 5 times the money.
They're like Chelsea & Kensington MILFs. Many look great on the surface but under that surface veneer lies rotten bag of bolts, falling apart rapidly.

soxboy

6,280 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
I think if you hunted well and knew what you were looking for

And I think that's where the problem lies!! smile

DonkeyApple said:
But I think the early 80s 4 doors are the next to go up exactly because their exterior trim makes them look far more 'classic' than the more ubiquitous later cars.
That's the look I was hoping for - get say a '92 and get it to look like an '82. A nice metallic shade, silver 3 spoke wheels etc etc. I know there will be inconsistencies that would be difficult to overcome such as fuel filler, door hinges, mirrors but I can live with that.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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So is it an easy change to do things like the bumpers and grill?

soxboy

6,280 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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desolate said:
So is it an easy change to do things like the bumpers and grill?
Not necessarily easy, just probably a bit more 'doable', plus they are the items that are both more noticeable and identifiable (well, to me, anyway).

DonkeyApple

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55,408 posts

170 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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desolate said:
So is it an easy change to do things like the bumpers and grill?
Bumpers, yes. Although sourcing the older style end caps both 70s & 80s is now costly and using the later bumper would mean no crank handle hole etc. Profile is ever so slightly different I think but I really don't think it would be noticed.

Grill is harder. The later ones are one piece clip ins whereas the early style is three piece and screw in but it's not hideously complex. You almost certainly won't be able to source an early front valance.

Door frames would be wrong as they lost the quarter light in the big mid 80s change. As would the internal tailgate lever but it would be interesting to see how a late model looked with the 80s grill/ letters and bumpers.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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DonkeyApple said:
Bumpers, yes. Although sourcing the older style end caps both 70s & 80s is now costly and using the later bumper would mean no crank handle hole etc. Profile is ever so slightly different I think but I really don't think it would be noticed.

Grill is harder. The later ones are one piece clip ins whereas the early style is three piece and screw in but it's not hideously complex. You almost certainly won't be able to source an early front valance.

Door frames would be wrong as they lost the quarter light in the big mid 80s change. As would the internal tailgate lever but it would be interesting to see how a late model looked with the 80s grill/ letters and bumpers.
This sort of thing?



anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Thanks for the replies.

I may have a tinker and see what the outcome is, although the one I have now is the later metallic green so i am not sure it will look right.

I keep thinking of changing but this is now my 4th one and is so far and away the nicest (and the cheapest) that I keep thinking again!

I would have been best served either wrapping or respraying a hideous Warwick green franken 2-door I had, but such is life.

NomduJour

19,144 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Warwick Green is great!

Really not a fan of backdating.

squirdan

1,083 posts

148 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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soxboy said:
DonkeyApple said:
I think if you hunted well and knew what you were looking for

And I think that's where the problem lies!! smile

DonkeyApple said:
But I think the early 80s 4 doors are the next to go up exactly because their exterior trim makes them look far more 'classic' than the more ubiquitous later cars.
That's the look I was hoping for - get say a '92 and get it to look like an '82. A nice metallic shade, silver 3 spoke wheels etc etc. I know there will be inconsistencies that would be difficult to overcome such as fuel filler, door hinges, mirrors but I can live with that.

If you want to put your plan into action you can have this car off me

I am using the dash, front doors and the engine but the other trim parts might be handy...grill, bumpers, exposed hinge bonnet, 3 spoke wheels etc?







squirdan

1,083 posts

148 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Would the PH brain trust agree this looks like Lincoln Green? the car has been resprayed in a different green metallic that you can see on the fuel filler pipe. And that looks like a lever for an overdrive?

An X reg 2 door that needs a v8 putting in it and some TLC...






NomduJour

19,144 posts

260 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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Looks like it, that was the only factory green available at the time.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th October 2016
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NomduJour said:
Looks like it, that was the only factory green available at the time.
Yes. No a lot of choice really.


SDB660

568 posts

196 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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Have a 1993 Vogue SE. Need five tyres. Any recommendation for a standard size tyre? Car is mostly used on motorway and zero off-road, so ideally would like a quiet and reasonable long lasting tyre.

Online tyres suggest one of two sizes being 235/70R16 / 106 / H or 255/65R16 / 109 / H. 7J factory three spoke wheel.

Edited by SDB660 on Friday 7th October 10:28

DonkeyApple

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55,408 posts

170 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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squirdan said:
Would the PH brain trust agree this looks like Lincoln Green? the car has been resprayed in a different green metallic that you can see on the fuel filler pipe. And that looks like a lever for an overdrive?

An X reg 2 door that needs a v8 putting in it and some TLC...





It looks more like the Land Rover green of the time doesn't it?

DonkeyApple

Original Poster:

55,408 posts

170 months

Friday 7th October 2016
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SDB660 said:
Have a 1993 Vogue SE. Need five tyres. Any recommendation for a standard size tyre? Car is mostly used on motorway and zero off-road, so ideally would like a quiet and reasonable long lasting tyre.

Online tyres suggest one of two sizes being 235/70R16 / 106 / H or 255/65R16 / 109 / H. 7J factory three spoke wheel.

Edited by SDB660 on Friday 7th October 10:28
Why go wider than the standard 225? I've never been convinced that their road handling is enhanced by wider rubber.