Where can I find an XKSS (replica)?
Discussion
lowdrag said:
I said the same in an article I wrote. I know the cost to Jaguar of each and every XKSS built, and I wrote about the small piece of 7x5 aluminium that cost £900,000 in each car. It was of course the chassis plate. Once again, same as the lightweight E-types, these will be appearing on the road. Having bought your unregisterable XKSS, take it to a specialist who will convert it for you into IVA-able (sorry for a non-word!) car, and then you have your V5 and number plates. Then you junk all the catalyst and other useless parts and put it back into true XKSS form. Of course, Jaguar had promised true replicas, which they aren't. Original cars have the screen surround in aluminium, but because no one will chrome alloy today because it warps the frame, they are in brass. And if you watch the Hammond drive on Amazon, when he turns the ignition on the rev counter goes straight to 7,000 rpm and back to zero just like any real original chronometric rev counter didn't. But fear not, for those very clever chaps at Smiths have put a patch into the electronic circuitry and the rev counter will now move in a jerky fashion just like the real thing always did. And there is not one of the new D-types, E-types nor XKSS made that would pass a concours. RS Panels made the 16" wheels and guess what is shown in profile on each wheel.
Now original mag-alloy wheels didn't have that, now did they
Square holes?Now original mag-alloy wheels didn't have that, now did they
I can't say I've ever noticed that version!
lowdrag said:
Yes, that one is part of the fire sale that is left over from the rump of JD Classics. They had it up for sale at £650,000 and now it is £430,000. Since it is a true copy it does seem extraordinarily cheap, being only £100,000 more than the Lynx that sold last Saturday, and £1,000,000 cheaper than the nine that Jaguar made last year! If I even had the money though I wouldn't buy it because I race no more and it would be no better than my Lynx for road and rally usage. But if one intends to race then with FIA papers it would be fun, except that real D-type copies abound and would be more pertinent. The only time I have seen an XKSS race was when Racing Green took theirs to the Revival in 2005.
The smoke was from the roll bar which was touching the tyre, and quickly rectified.
ETA:- I forgot to mention that there is another alloy car on the market being built by Tester Engineering. It isn't a true copy but I suppose equivalent to an original Lyn in value. No idea what it will cost, but they have been advertising it for at least a year I seem to recall.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C470475
And going back to the origins of this thread a friend has decided to sell his Realm XKSS if anyone is interested. And no, he is realistic about the value.
Tony...Ive dropped you an email with respect to your friend with the Realm. Providing you are still on the orange.fr account?The smoke was from the roll bar which was touching the tyre, and quickly rectified.
ETA:- I forgot to mention that there is another alloy car on the market being built by Tester Engineering. It isn't a true copy but I suppose equivalent to an original Lyn in value. No idea what it will cost, but they have been advertising it for at least a year I seem to recall.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C470475
And going back to the origins of this thread a friend has decided to sell his Realm XKSS if anyone is interested. And no, he is realistic about the value.
Edited by lowdrag on Tuesday 11th December 12:36
lowdrag said:
The only time I have seen an XKSS race was when Racing Green took theirs to the Revival in 2005.
I think Graham did quite a few race meetings in 701 at one stage, including some very wet races. I don't know what happened later on, there were changes at RGC and of course he had CKL merge the two claimants to the the chassis number. I saw him with the XKSS at Goodwood for a trackday after that work had been done.This is a fascinating historical thread.. do any of you know this car for sale in Germany?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C993711
It seems expensive for a fibre car.. but these days who knows!
Oliver S.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C993711
It seems expensive for a fibre car.. but these days who knows!
Oliver S.
Cineman said:
This is a fascinating historical thread.. do any of you know this car for sale in Germany?
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C993711
It seems expensive for a fibre car.. but these days who knows!
Oliver S.
Not an XKSS but an alloy car:-https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C993711
It seems expensive for a fibre car.. but these days who knows!
Oliver S.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1048393
Both of these are fine replicas and will give enormous pleasure to the owner or purchaser, but, and it is a big but, be very careful of the German car. It has the TUV papers (read German MOT) and is registered there, but import it at your peril. If - and a very big if - the original log book is of an XK120 then fine becauae both are "2 seater" cars, but if the basis of the registration is a MK VII or whatever, then you will face the IVA. The second car is already registered in the UK based on a 1961 identity, so no problems there. I know of a Realm XKSS for sale at £75,000 and know the engineer who built it, but there in Panzerland they are flying a kite for the unwary punter. It isn't worth it. Interestingly, talking of values, my Lynx XKSS is now on French papers, and that in Europe increases the value because unless you have proof that the car was built over 30 years ago then you can't register a replica here. It now makes it available not only to French buyers, but German and even Swiss as well. With my French V5 "de collection" the proof is that the car qualifies to be registered elsewhere in Europe.The DVLA are getting mighty interested in replicas, so I would advise anyone not to publish in future a photo with the registration showing.
Thank you - sage advice. The german gentleman says he has a V5 title as the car only went over there in the 90's. I've asked him to scan it and send it over to me.
I keep reading that both these cars (the C-type and the XKSS) will be "cramped" for a 5'10" driver (my height).. Do you agree with this? Someone on this thread was saying they would be uncomfortable driving it to the pub - which seems a bit radical!
I'm a little more drawn to the XKSS because of the fact there is at least somewhere to put a bag, and I do like the look. I used to own an XK120, which I loved but found quite heavy and "ponderous".. perhaps because I am used to rattling about in my Morgan Roadster.
Oliver S.
I keep reading that both these cars (the C-type and the XKSS) will be "cramped" for a 5'10" driver (my height).. Do you agree with this? Someone on this thread was saying they would be uncomfortable driving it to the pub - which seems a bit radical!
I'm a little more drawn to the XKSS because of the fact there is at least somewhere to put a bag, and I do like the look. I used to own an XK120, which I loved but found quite heavy and "ponderous".. perhaps because I am used to rattling about in my Morgan Roadster.
Oliver S.
Warning - thread revival! This looks like a nice Lynx XKSS on BAT at the moment: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-jaguar-xkss...
The car was sold by BaT four months back for $480,000. The new owner did 300 miles in it and had modifications done, but I haven't been told exactly what. Then he decided he didn't like it and has put it back on the market. Frankly, while I understand the new Lynx building them LHD for the American market, I don't personally like it, but then that's me. But since in Europe and many other countries you can't get them registered for road use that is the market these days. Lynx has been through many changes and this car was built in Czechoslovakia, but now they are in Coventry and are promising a far higher quality. If you don't like it you could make an offer for mine if you like. It's RHD of course
Likewise, I don't like LHD either, the factory never built them that way so for me it's just plain wrong.
Regarding the wheels, the cast wheel with square holes is for the lightweight E type. D Type wheels were made by Dunlop originally and comprised an extruded and rolled rim, the centre dish pressed, in a 300 ton press, from a machined slab of ally, a steel chafing ring and the steel presser plate which was a 12swg spinning, not to forget the drive pegs and their nuts. We spent two and a half years recreating these when I was at Lynx, it was fiendishly difficult and there was nobody at Dunlop still alive who remembered the originals and could help us. The rim was the main problem because when rolled, the rollers either fell off the cut ends leaving nicks in the finished rim, or if stopped short of the ends they left a peak. Eventually we used a cast and heat treated rim in aircraft spec ally but there were problems there too because when machined it rang like a very high pitched bell, painfully loud to the extent that everybody made for the door. We subcontracted the machining of the rims!
Regarding the wheels, the cast wheel with square holes is for the lightweight E type. D Type wheels were made by Dunlop originally and comprised an extruded and rolled rim, the centre dish pressed, in a 300 ton press, from a machined slab of ally, a steel chafing ring and the steel presser plate which was a 12swg spinning, not to forget the drive pegs and their nuts. We spent two and a half years recreating these when I was at Lynx, it was fiendishly difficult and there was nobody at Dunlop still alive who remembered the originals and could help us. The rim was the main problem because when rolled, the rollers either fell off the cut ends leaving nicks in the finished rim, or if stopped short of the ends they left a peak. Eventually we used a cast and heat treated rim in aircraft spec ally but there were problems there too because when machined it rang like a very high pitched bell, painfully loud to the extent that everybody made for the door. We subcontracted the machining of the rims!
XJ13 said:
There's a lot of it about.The owner of this err........thing, that they think is worth asking 40k for
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1298876
I'm sure someone has added two extra zero's to 400 quid by mistake
GT6 Jonsey said:
That car, the first made for Roland Urban in 1981, and based on the short nose Lynx D-type chassis #7, was not, as the makers will tell you, their finest effort, being the first and therefore a prototype. It sold at auction a few months back for £186,000, was returned to Lynx in Coventry, and had some fettling done. And is now on the market at the price stated.Several modern day LHD Lynx cars have sold on BAT and both at over $400,000, and auctions set their own level. I watched the auction, and the losing bidder already has a Lynx LHD XKSS and wanted this one for his Texas home rather than moving the other one about. He was, he stated, prepared to pay more if others had continued to bid. Perhaps he'll contact the sellers, Fantasy Junction, and negotiate an acceptable price.
GT6 Jonsey said:
Listing says, "A tool room copy of the original" - how can that possibly be? Not only fitted with an incorrect 3.8-litre engine, the car has incorrect engine frames, an E-Type IRS and E-Type front suspension for goodness sake!Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff