Where can I find an XKSS (replica)?

[lowdrag]

They also look high off the ground on 15" rather than 16" wheels. Looking at the way the rims show at the rear I reckon that's the case here. On 16" they tend to look like this:-

[lowdrag]

Well, in a few hours we'll know just what a replica XKSS will fetch. The latest Lynx XKSS will be auctioned today at Silverstone. I've registered to watch the live bidding.

[RichB]

lowdrag said:

Well, in a few hours we'll know just what a replica XKSS will fetch. The latest Lynx XKSS will be auctioned today at Silverstone. I've registered to watch the live bidding.

Not being an aficionado I have no idea but did Jaguar make LHD versions of the XKSS? Nice looking car by the way...

[lowdrag]

No, they were all just short nose D-types converted and all were RHD. I am interested because this is the first car of the new incarnation of Lynx to be sold on the market and not direct to the purchaser. I think the one sold a year ago at Goodwood for £385,000 was a blip on the market, but others have sold for £320,000 and recently less than that, (although that was the chassis #1 prototype long nose D-type converted and very different to the later cars) so we shall see just how the market sees this car. It's estimated at £250/280,000 and I hope it does well for the company. Obviously aimed at the export market I guess being LHD.

[jagracer]

Sense seems to be returning at last with some of these cars, that one failed at £200K

[lowdrag]

But the following Mk 2 rebuilt in 1999 by Lynx fetched way over estimate at £49,000. To be fair, the auctioneer does seem to be having a hard time of it today with loads sold way under estimate. I wonder if, in the case of the XKSS, people were put off by it being LHD?

[jagracer]

Or perhaps the right people weren't there today, a car is only worth what someone wants to pay. The Jeep on there fetched far more than I would have thought for a car that isn't quite as original as they are making out.

[logiedurno]

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My XKSS LR replica built by aircraft technician over four years. Award winnng car, probably one of the best builds available. It has the patina, feel and smell of an original.
I have owned it for ten years and it took me literally 20 years to source one this good. I may be tempted to sell it on but it would have to be a really good offer.

Edited by logiedurno on Wednesday 4th November 22:29

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Edited by logiedurno on Wednesday 4th November 22:33

[lowdrag]

One's turned up in C&SC this month. I have no idea what it is but he's asking a cool £115,000 for it. It looks dry-sumped, but one would have to look more carefully, and anyway, I always reckon dry-sumping is of no use on a road car. I don't see you cornering at 3G force and having serious oil surge. And can someone tell me where he has hidden the battery? Far too dear for a fibreglass car, far too cheap for an alloy one.

https://goo.gl/BSDpJZ

[jagracer]

It's an LR Roadsters/Ram/Realm or whatever Adrian called the company when it was bought. I very much doubt that it's dry sumped, the tank and pipe don't look right. Nice car though but £115K...Hmmmm.

Edited by jagracer on Sunday 22 November 12:07

[Longnose]

Yes, I saw that one. It's got a nice riveted aluminium floor, but I can't make sense of the price. Over the past year I've been to quite a few auctions. No XKSS's but quite a few RAM D-Types, most recently last month at Coy's, Sandown Park. £35K is tops for a nice triple Weber RAM D-Type. I'm beginning to think about abandoning XKSS's and going for a GT40 - my other desirable replica. There seem to be a few around at more sensible prices.

Thanks for keeping a lookout and monitoring the cars for sale.

[dodgepot]

Sorry if it's been mentioned before and ruled out but I did see this one the other day

http://www.trackvroad.co.uk/showroom/jaguar-xk-ss/

Cheers
Mark

[ToneyCaroney]

I don't wish to speak out of turn, but if people really are prepared to pay £70k for a Ram XKSS rep we're all fked.

[lowdrag]

There you open a can of worms oft discussed TC. Is a Lynx XKSS replica, no more than an E-type under the skin, worth nearly £400,000? Yet the same car has been sold not far off that price twice in the last 18 months so someone out there wants one and is prepared to pay such an astronomical price. RAM cars have trailed behind Proteus, but since it would cost around £40,000 minimum to buy the complete kit, without motor and drive train, I suppose that £70,000 must be the going rate now. An alloy Proteus is on the market at a tad under £100,000. But to come full circle, a new Lynx XKSS didn't get one bid at Silverstone. Funny world. Oh, and a quick google shows GT40 replicas are about £75,000 too.

[ToneyCaroney]

Well, obviously there was some flippancy in my post but do I think a Lynx XKSS is worth £400k? Of course not. They hold no historical significance, nor, as you say, are they accurate replicas. They do look right and are a truly lovely thing though, but at £400k? Barking. I had not noticed either that quite average GT40 reps are now around £75k. Makes the RAM up at £70k look more realistic but, come on, at some point reality must prevail. Mustn't it?

[a8hex]

ToneyCaroney said:

... but, come on, at some point reality must prevail. Mustn't it?

What would it take for reality to prevail?
1) people to stop thinking that they can make an easy buck out of owning classic cars
2) for less people to want to own them than there are cars to own

At least at current values people are spending money on restoring classics, cars that might otherwise be lost are being rescued and people with admirable skills are being employed restoring them.

[Longnose]

I think there are people here trying to talk prices up! Nobody knows what cars are sold for in private transactions and the only public information is auction results. I go to a few of them. Here's three nice looking GT40 auction results in the last month: Silverstone: £42750, Coys: not sold at £63000, H&H: £48250. That includes auctioneers fees so the sellers got less. Who says £75K is the going rate???

One more result: I saw a racing car sold and at the Autosport show in January for £9K and it was in a dealer for £29995 a week later. It's a minefield out there.

[RichB]

Longnose said:

I think there are people here trying to talk prices up! Nobody knows what cars are sold for in private transactions and the only public information is auction results. I go to a few of them. Here's three nice looking GT40 auction results in the last month: Silverstone: £42750, Coys: not sold at £63000, H&H: £48250. That includes auctioneers fees so the sellers got less. Who says £75K is the going rate???

One more result: I saw a racing car sold and at the Autosport show in January for £9K and it was in a dealer for £29995 a week later. It's a minefield out there.

Sensible post. If one is really interested in tracking prices bona-fide auction results inc fees and vat on the fees is in reality the only way.

[ToneyCaroney]

a8hex said:

At least at current values people are spending money on restoring classics, cars that might otherwise be lost are being rescued and people with admirable skills are being employed restoring them.

Agreed that this is an excellent thing.

Longnose said:

I think there are people here trying to talk prices up! Nobody knows what cars are sold for in private transactions and the only public information is auction results. I go to a few of them. Here's three nice looking GT40 auction results in the last month: Silverstone: £42750, Coys: not sold at £63000, H&H: £48250. That includes auctioneers fees so the sellers got less. Who says £75K is the going rate???

One more result: I saw a racing car sold and at the Autosport show in January for £9K and it was in a dealer for £29995 a week later. It's a minefield out there.

Yes, auction results sound sensible. It's the opportunistic hyper-inflated 'valuations' that have now become the norm that are beginning to get my goat. I really shouldn't care but for some reason this particular example has caused my ps to boil....

Apologies, OP, for the OT (and lowering the tone...).

[Turkish91]

a8hex said:

Of course if you really want an XKSS replica rumour has it that Jaguar are about to build a batch to follow up the E types they've just made.

Where have you heard that?

There was a replica SS at the NEC weekend before last and I wasn't very impressed by it at all. I think it was up for sale but at what price I have no idea.