Help - looking for our old AMR transporter

Help - looking for our old AMR transporter

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tjmann

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12 posts

115 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Hi all

We're (with my Alan Mann Racing hat on!) looking to track down our old transporter - pics below... I think it's a Bedford lorry converted...?!

Any info gratefully received!

Tom


Mopar440

410 posts

113 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Great photographs! Thanks for posting them.

Why do you think it's a Bed-FORD?


tjmann

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115 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Mopar440 said:
Great photographs! Thanks for posting them.

Why do you think it's a Bed-FORD?
Henry (Mann, my brother) thinks that it's converted Bedford lorry with much modified coachwork and a Ford badge on - but I would love to find out more info on it if I can...

occrj

370 posts

179 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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It features in racing car transporters book Inside The Paddock (page 238). It's described as being based on a Ford R226 coach chassis, body by Tiverton. Purchased March 1968.

I can't quite make out the entire registration, ??X 217F, possibly XVX 217F - which doesn't appear to show up on a check of DVLA.

RJ

tjmann

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115 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Very helpful thanks!

Chunkychucky

5,968 posts

170 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Hi Tom, sorry a bit off topic, don't suppose you would have any pictures of, or happen to know what happened to, the Jag Mk 1 historic touring car your father built a few years back? I saw it a few times in the flesh and can honestly say it is one of the most beautifully prepared cars I've ever seen - my father tried to buy it at the autosport auction unfortunately to no avail, and I haven't seen a thing of it since!

cahami

1,248 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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I believe that it is, or at least was. a bedford vam14 duple viceroy (google images show a few that look identical)

Edited by cahami on Wednesday 28th January 20:17

Mopar440

410 posts

113 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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cahami said:
I believe that it is, or at least was. a bedford vam14 duple viceroy (google images show a few that look identical)

Edited by cahami on Wednesday 28th January 20:17
This is the area of coachbuilt vehicles; I think you're correct that the Duple Viceroy coachwork is similar, and so much so that it's a good bet that the AMR transporter was bodied by Duple, but on a Ford chassis rather than Bedford?


guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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cahami said:
I believe that it is, or at least was. a bedford vam14 duple viceroy (google images show a few that look identical)

Edited by cahami on Wednesday 28th January 20:17
it cannot be a Bedford Vam14 as it has ten stud wheels.

Vams only had eight stud wheels, its not until the later (1970 on) mid engine YRQ came out that they went to ten stud wheels (and air brakes etc)

it is Duple front section though, but the rest may have been done by someone else.

I used to have a Vam converted race transporter, so have many 'happy' hours of heaving the blooming wheels on and off it!! smile

tjmann

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12 posts

115 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Chunkychucky said:
Hi Tom, sorry a bit off topic, don't suppose you would have any pictures of, or happen to know what happened to, the Jag Mk 1 historic touring car your father built a few years back? I saw it a few times in the flesh and can honestly say it is one of the most beautifully prepared cars I've ever seen - my father tried to buy it at the autosport auction unfortunately to no avail, and I haven't seen a thing of it since!
I don't I'm afraid - it went back to Don Law who made it... that's where my knowledge runs out!

tjmann

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115 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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All very helpful thanks!

v8250

2,724 posts

212 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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tjmann said:
Chunkychucky said:
Hi Tom, sorry a bit off topic, don't suppose you would have any pictures of, or happen to know what happened to, the Jag Mk 1 historic touring car your father built a few years back? I saw it a few times in the flesh and can honestly say it is one of the most beautifully prepared cars I've ever seen - my father tried to buy it at the autosport auction unfortunately to no avail, and I haven't seen a thing of it since!
I don't I'm afraid - it went back to Don Law who made it... that's where my knowledge runs out!
Was this the Anthony Reid car?

Chunkychucky

5,968 posts

170 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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v8250 said:
Was this the Anthony Reid car?
No it was in the Alan Mann colours, built by Don Law for Alan to run in the Goodwood Revival, however shelved in favour of the Ford Pop Anglia that was recently sold I believe to James Martin. I'm not sure whether the Jag was ever used in anger, however I saw it at the Silverstone Classic some years ago in a Jag parade, and subsequently spent a good 15 minutes crawling all over it in the paddock - to say it was as good as new would be an understatement! Would love to own it one day (if it's still about!)

v8250

2,724 posts

212 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Chunkychucky said:
No it was in the Alan Mann colours, built by Don Law for Alan to run in the Goodwood Revival, however shelved in favour of the Ford Pop Anglia that was recently sold I believe to James Martin. I'm not sure whether the Jag was ever used in anger, however I saw it at the Silverstone Classic some years ago in a Jag parade, and subsequently spent a good 15 minutes crawling all over it in the paddock - to say it was as good as new would be an understatement! Would love to own it one day (if it's still about!)
Someone must know of its whereabouts...

Chunkychucky

5,968 posts

170 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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v8250 said:
Someone must know of its whereabouts...
It's a shame because my father was bidding on the car but got outbid - he intended to race it in HRSR/HRDC, however the winning bidder has clearly had other ideas!



Johnspex

4,343 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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Off topic, but is that the car that was racing at Brans Hatch on the day Jim Clark was killed?
I'm sure I was watching a race on the TV that day.

guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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the reg number is YVX 217F

its a good mystery this, as the only photos on the internet appear to be the one black and white one, and a handful of colour ones taken at spa in 1968

its not on the dvla computer, so its been off the road since the late 1970's

cahami

1,248 posts

207 months

Thursday 29th January 2015
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guru_1071 said:
the reg number is YVX 217F

its a good mystery this, as the only photos on the internet appear to be the one black and white one, and a handful of colour ones taken at spa in 1968

its not on the dvla computer, so its been off the road since the late 1970's
Considering it was only built in 67/68 it is strange it did not exist beyond the the late 70s maybee a plate change? sadly the person who knows what happened to it may not be around to tell the story, but i hope the mann family find it, or if not recreate it it would look good in the paddock at goodwood.

Edited by cahami on Friday 30th January 00:18

tjmann

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115 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Very helpful thanks to all. We wanted to try and find it as we're going a bit retro for the 2015 race season - proper stopwatches & clipboards, mechanics in the 60s teamwear, that sort of thing. Would much rather have a period transporter than the Mercedes sprinter we have now, but looks like we'd have to build one - which would be quite punchy!