The Cars Time Forgot...
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Octoposse said:
At Classics Around Dorset yesterday (31/05/15) I couldn't help feeling that this Audi 100 was in the wrong carpark - should have been in Display not Visitor!
I often find some of the more interesting cars are parked in the visitors car park. They are a bit forgotten. They were incredibly hyped in their day by Audi - Audi always spent a fortune on marketing, even back then. I didn't particularly like them when they were new. I considered them boring and over sold, but I enjoy seeing them now. I wish there were more of them about.
My dad was a fan of the R16, though he never bought one. He was a big Peugeot man in the 1970s.
The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
Dapster said:
Not so much a car, as a technology. Absolutely brilliantly simple and so cheap compared to Airbags. Consigned to the history books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
I remember seeing this acronym on my dads audi 80 from the early 90's. Seems like quite a good system doesnt it? But as the use of air bags became the norm, to not have them would seem like a marketing faux pas ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
PorkRind said:
Dapster said:
Not so much a car, as a technology. Absolutely brilliantly simple and so cheap compared to Airbags. Consigned to the history books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
I remember seeing this acronym on my dads audi 80 from the early 90's. Seems like quite a good system doesnt it? But as the use of air bags became the norm, to not have them would seem like a marketing faux pas ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
dbdb said:
My dad was a fan of the R16, though he never bought one. He was a big Peugeot man in the 1970s.
The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
My school run lift share included a Peugeot 604 V6. My friend's dad owned his own engineering company and whilst the rest of the week was spent buzzing to and from school in the inevitable Polo, Metro and Ford Fiasco, the treat of the week was a trip in his huge Peugeot. It was astonishingly comfortable and silent too - lovely soft velour seats, electric windows and all sorts of other space age gizmology. The 604 is up there with the Lancia Gamma in the forgotten luxury saloons of the 70's. The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
Regarding the Audi spotted at the Dorset Classics above, it has authentic Dorset plates as well "xPR" would have been a local plate when it was registered in '87.
That Renault 16 TX (Renault's attempt to sportify a very softly sprung car) reminded me of the FE Victors and Ventora, the "sporty" version of which was the 2.3 litre VX4/90. A friend's Dad worked for Vauxhall in Ellesmere Port and had a bright yellow one when they first came out and wafted us up to 100mph in it.
Very much overshadowed by the Cortinas and Granadas as it had to cover both bases.
Advertised as "The Transcontinentals", a European trip in one soon fried the brakes.
The name came from the 4 cylinder/90hp original so this one should have been called the VX 4/122 (*but wasn't, obviously). The Ventora got a strangulated 3.3 and was touted as the luxury version.
Very much overshadowed by the Cortinas and Granadas as it had to cover both bases.
Advertised as "The Transcontinentals", a European trip in one soon fried the brakes.
The name came from the 4 cylinder/90hp original so this one should have been called the VX 4/122 (*but wasn't, obviously). The Ventora got a strangulated 3.3 and was touted as the luxury version.
My Dad owned two Renault 16's back in the late 70's / early 80's. Both TL models, so the carb-fed 1.6 with the 4-speed gearbox.
Beautiful things. They were real workhorses at times and yet could cruise serenely in comfort. I'd love to own one now.
The second one Dad bought (SKR 857R) was bought from new by a gentleman who originally bought a new Princess. He had so many problems with it that BL gave him his money back and, when asked which car he could get that wouldn't give him trouble, the BL dealer recommended the Renault 16.
Beautiful things. They were real workhorses at times and yet could cruise serenely in comfort. I'd love to own one now.
The second one Dad bought (SKR 857R) was bought from new by a gentleman who originally bought a new Princess. He had so many problems with it that BL gave him his money back and, when asked which car he could get that wouldn't give him trouble, the BL dealer recommended the Renault 16.
LanceRS said:
Dapster said:
Surely everybody had an adenoidal geography master with bad breath and BO in the 80's with an FSO Polonez?
Er, just me then?
My step father bought one of these in 1987, he was an English teacher although without the personal hygiene issues. A truly horrible car. You could not open the boot from outside the car!Er, just me then?
I can still remember the verdict in CAR magazine. For: Quad headlamps. Against : Everything behind them.
Octoposse said:
Rower said:
tumble dryer said:
Style never goes out of fashion.
I'd love to have one today.
Also really loved the Fiat 850 coupe.
Blackwedge said:
LanceRS said:
I can still remember the verdict in CAR magazine. For: Quad headlamps. Against : Everything behind them.
Brilliant 
The Polonez is still the worst thing I have driven in over 30 years. Although the Yugo 45 ran it a close second!
MarshPhantom said:
The Communist Teachers that lived over the road from my parents had one just like that, along with various Skodas, a Lada , a Citroen CX Estate and some beyond the iron curtain produced motorcycle (CZ/MZ?)
I knew some 60s hippies who bought a Moskvich Estate. The Russian rubbish was very popular in the 70s for being cheap. Another had a wartburg knight which had a 2 stroke engine.As for the motorcycles. the MZ wasn't a bad bike at all. However the CZ had a very strange combined kickstart lever which then ratcheted forward to become a huge gearlever. It was suited to neither task.
LuS1fer said:
MarshPhantom said:
The Communist Teachers that lived over the road from my parents had one just like that, along with various Skodas, a Lada , a Citroen CX Estate and some beyond the iron curtain produced motorcycle (CZ/MZ?)
I knew some 60s hippies who bought a Moskvich Estate. The Russian rubbish was very popular in the 70s for being cheap. Another had a wartburg knight which had a 2 stroke engine.As for the motorcycles. the MZ wasn't a bad bike at all. However the CZ had a very strange combined kickstart lever which then ratcheted forward to become a huge gearlever. It was suited to neither task.
There was an MZ bike club used to meet at the pub just down the road, you'd get loads there. I think the chap over the road had a CZ.
LuS1fer said:
That Renault 16 TX (Renault's attempt to sportify a very softly sprung car) reminded me of the FE Victors and Ventora, the "sporty" version of which was the 2.3 litre VX4/90. A friend's Dad worked for Vauxhall in Ellesmere Port and had a bright yellow one when they first came out and wafted us up to 100mph in it.
Very much overshadowed by the Cortinas and Granadas as it had to cover both bases.
Advertised as "The Transcontinentals", a European trip in one soon fried the brakes.
The name came from the 4 cylinder/90hp original so this one should have been called the VX 4/122 (*but wasn't, obviously). The Ventora got a strangulated 3.3 and was touted as the luxury version.
I'm sorry to admit that in my youth, early 80's, I destroyed a VX4/90 in a banger race, I think I paid a tenner for it. Very much overshadowed by the Cortinas and Granadas as it had to cover both bases.
Advertised as "The Transcontinentals", a European trip in one soon fried the brakes.
The name came from the 4 cylinder/90hp original so this one should have been called the VX 4/122 (*but wasn't, obviously). The Ventora got a strangulated 3.3 and was touted as the luxury version.
Mart-1 said:
A mainstream family car with no sporting pretensions, the Renault 16 still looks good to my eyes and makes me think about scouring the ads for one
A car that was ahead of its time, mindful that it was introduced in the mid-sixties and a very decent drive, as I remember it from the 70's. I'm not sure who lays claim to the first mainstream hatchback but the R16 must be up there as one of the earliest.Dapster said:
dbdb said:
My dad was a fan of the R16, though he never bought one. He was a big Peugeot man in the 1970s.
The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
My school run lift share included a Peugeot 604 V6. My friend's dad owned his own engineering company and whilst the rest of the week was spent buzzing to and from school in the inevitable Polo, Metro and Ford Fiasco, the treat of the week was a trip in his huge Peugeot. It was astonishingly comfortable and silent too - lovely soft velour seats, electric windows and all sorts of other space age gizmology. The 604 is up there with the Lancia Gamma in the forgotten luxury saloons of the 70's. The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
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It could have been one of these that drove from Wareham ( south Bridge ) to Swanage ( 30mph sign ) on the old road ( circa 1984 ? ) a distance of 10 miles for a bet that it could be performed under 8mins ?
It could have been driven at 2am on a damp road at .............interesting speed to achieve this bet .........
It may have had a passenger wearing a crash helmet sat in the back with a stopwatch to prove the time.
It definitely achieved this distance in 6 mins 32 seconds ...................aka The back up car A Ford Capri 2.8i following was two minutes behind ..............
dbdb said:
My dad was a fan of the R16, though he never bought one. He was a big Peugeot man in the 1970s.
The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
My Dad replaced his 604 V6 Ti with a Jag XJ6, we were both shock at how much harsher the suspension was on the jag - despite its reputation. The Peugeot 604 seems almost completely forgotten now, but they were excellent cars. A trip in one would astonish people used to hugely over-wheeled modern cars with their appalling crashy, noisy, unyielding and knobbly rides. These big Peugeots were smooth.
Edited by balls-out on Wednesday 3rd June 14:13
MoggieMinor said:
Always fancied a Reliant Scimitar SS1. Perhaps not the best looking of cars but they drive very nicely. I have not seen one about for a while though.
RHD one for sale in Prague right now. Feeling brave?http://www.tipcars.com/en/other/other-37980059.htm...
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