The Cars Time Forgot...

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mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Dapster said:
Not so much a car, as a technology. Absolutely brilliantly simple and so cheap compared to Airbags. Consigned to the history books.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
however if it activates the vehicle IS a write off ...

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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GT6 Jonsey said:
Simca Rancho, our next door neighbour had one in this colour. I remember being fascinated by it as a kid, with its spot lights and bull bars
invented softroader before it was enven though of ...

underneath it's 1960s french farmer's 2 wd pickup

bencollins

3,503 posts

205 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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droopsnoot said:
Dapster said:
Not so much a car, as a technology. Absolutely brilliantly simple and so cheap compared to Airbags. Consigned to the history books.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
Wasn't there a "dislocating shoulders" issue with that, on the basis that people tend to hang on for dear life in the event of a crash rather than letting go of the steering wheel as the technology assumed? I can't remember whether that was a story I read, or just something I heard mentioned.
That broke 3 of my stepmothers ribs.
If it was any good it would still be around.

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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bencollins said:
droopsnoot said:
Dapster said:
Not so much a car, as a technology. Absolutely brilliantly simple and so cheap compared to Airbags. Consigned to the history books.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procon-ten
Wasn't there a "dislocating shoulders" issue with that, on the basis that people tend to hang on for dear life in the event of a crash rather than letting go of the steering wheel as the technology assumed? I can't remember whether that was a story I read, or just something I heard mentioned.
That broke 3 of my stepmothers ribs.
If it was any good it would still be around.
Dear me; read my post about this system. All safety systems carry a distinct and high possibility of serious injury from the devices themselves. Your MIL was fortunate that she escaped with only broken ribs. Seat belts, when used on older cars with no airbags or any other device can cause very serious injury indeed, and even death.

Airbags can cause awful facial injuries and fractured skulls. So please don't assume you're safe as houses in your modern techno gizmo saloon; it's not the case.

Procon 10 was a superb system and was only phased out due to the cost of repair after it deployed. We live in a world where economics sadly dominate virtually everything else.

J

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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jith said:
Dear me; read my post about this system. All safety systems carry a distinct and high possibility of serious injury from the devices themselves. Your MIL was fortunate that she escaped with only broken ribs. Seat belts, when used on older cars with no airbags or any other device can cause very serious injury indeed, and even death.

Airbags can cause awful facial injuries and fractured skulls. So please don't assume you're safe as houses in your modern techno gizmo saloon; it's not the case.

Procon 10 was a superb system and was only phased out due to the cost of repair after it deployed. We live in a world where economics sadly dominate virtually everything else.

J
How the fk would you know how fortunate his MIL was? Did you investigate her accident?

jith

2,752 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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kiseca said:
jith said:
Dear me; read my post about this system. All safety systems carry a distinct and high possibility of serious injury from the devices themselves. Your MIL was fortunate that she escaped with only broken ribs. Seat belts, when used on older cars with no airbags or any other device can cause very serious injury indeed, and even death.

Airbags can cause awful facial injuries and fractured skulls. So please don't assume you're safe as houses in your modern techno gizmo saloon; it's not the case.

Procon 10 was a superb system and was only phased out due to the cost of repair after it deployed. We live in a world where economics sadly dominate virtually everything else.

J
How the fk would you know how fortunate his MIL was? Did you investigate her accident?
OK, I'll play in the same rude arrogant, utterly ignorant, ill mannered way that you do. If you want to behave like an utter prick on here I'm quiet happy to treat you like one. This seems to be the norm on PH now, and I'd love to know how many rocks people like you crawl out from under.

She was clearly fortunate because she survived the accident, and I have no doubt that it was very much in part due to the Procon 10 system that she wasn't more seriously injured. How do I know that? Because I've spent the majority of my life as a project engineer working on many different vehicles, but especially Audi.

Now do us all a favour and go and play with a live fusebox.

J

irocfan

40,432 posts

190 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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what about

AC300ME




Monterverdi Hai






Bizarini 5300





Iso Lele





Bugatti EB110





Iso Rivolta



Edited by irocfan on Saturday 9th May 20:34

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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jith said:
OK, I'll play in the same rude arrogant, utterly ignorant, ill mannered way that you do. If you want to behave like an utter prick on here I'm quiet happy to treat you like one. This seems to be the norm on PH now, and I'd love to know how many rocks people like you crawl out from under.

She was clearly fortunate because she survived the accident, and I have no doubt that it was very much in part due to the Procon 10 system that she wasn't more seriously injured. How do I know that? Because I've spent the majority of my life as a project engineer working on many different vehicles, but especially Audi.

Now do us all a favour and go and play with a live fusebox.

J
You already started in a rude, arrogant manner. You don't need me as an excuse.

GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

122 months

Saturday 9th May 2015
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Just thought of another company that made a cool car that disappeared without trace. Anyone remember the Trident Clipper ?

mgrays

189 posts

190 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Markgenesis said:
Argyle Turbo GT
Argyll for these cars, Argyle is the old fashioned spelling .. and the Rover V8 turbo (Turbo GT) was the first/rally/prototype car. I think I know where it is..

The other 3-4 were all Reggie V6 with the Reggie transaxle.
My father was involved and I rode in a bare chassis on our farm roads during a shake down.. did a few miles as a passenger going south with a car on a trailer behind off for an interior trim; one ended up with a Volvo 240 dash.
I did see one in Autotrader about 23 years ago in London with no interior.. must have been one of the last ones.

This article has the bones of it right.. http://www.aronline.co.uk/blogs/cars/argyll/turbo-... but with Bob muddying the water here and there! Great guy on cars.

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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GT6 Jonsey said:
Just thought of another company that made a cool car that disappeared without trace. Anyone remember the Trident Clipper ?
Did these ever have a trident badge on the grille (running the risk of a strongly worded letter from Maserati)?

If so, I think I saw one between Modbury and Aveton Gifford a few days ago.

Dapster

6,931 posts

180 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Surely everybody had an adenoidal geography master with bad breath and BO in the 80's with an FSO Polonez?

Er, just me then?


fredbrad

99 posts

173 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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GT6 Jonsey said:
Renault Fuego
The model before the Fuego. Renault 17. I had 2 of them - wish I had photo's to submit.

B3ALP

491 posts

141 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Mine was exactly like that in 1986. My Fourth car, I was 19biggrin




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GT6 Jonsey

845 posts

122 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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gforceg said:
GT6 Jonsey said:
Just thought of another company that made a cool car that disappeared without trace. Anyone remember the Trident Clipper ?
Did these ever have a trident badge on the grille (running the risk of a strongly worded letter from Maserati)?

If so, I think I saw one between Modbury and Aveton Gifford a few days ago.
It had the model name on the rear and the company name and logo on the bonnet

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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GT6 Jonsey said:
It had the model name on the rear and the company name and logo on the bonnet
Thanks. Sounds like it probably wasn't one of these. Wish I could work out what it was.

irocfan

40,432 posts

190 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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The 90s Maserati Ghibli seems to have been overlooked, the Cup version was well received, 330bhp from a 2 litre V6 wasn't bad back in 1992! The Shamal is another forgotten Maserati, the first to use the twin turbo V8 and styled by Gandini including Countach rear arches and more lights at the front than any other car I can think of!




jamies30

5,910 posts

229 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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It's funny, the Ghibli and Shamal are far from forgotten for me. A Shamal, in particular, is something I often think about.

LanceRS

2,172 posts

137 months

Monday 11th May 2015
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Dapster said:
Surely everybody had an adenoidal geography master with bad breath and BO in the 80's with an FSO Polonez?

Er, just me then?

My step father bought one of these in 1987, he was an English teacher although without the personal hygiene issues. A truly horrible car. You could not open the boot from outside the car!
I can still remember the verdict in CAR magazine. For: Quad headlamps. Against : Everything behind them.