Gosh oh golly, I bought a Dolly.

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55palfers

5,910 posts

164 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Looks like they are made of liquorice.


V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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9xxNick

928 posts

214 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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DP1 said:
Just as a matter of interest how do you find the 'mature' BL cars to run in winter. Not thinking about how they drive but is starting harder and and how does the 40 year old heater cope in this weather.

I am old enough to remember driving BLs finest and recall constant fogging up, cold legs (and other parts) and starting that could be a fine balance of choke and throttle. My nephew thought I was maiking up the story of the spring loaded Mini choke that always spring shut just when it was most inconvenient.
I had an Austin 1800 "S" (S for "sexy", presumably) a few years ago which I used for road rallies. The choke was never a problem - twist to lock and it stayed locked - but the original heating system (Mark 2) had degraded over the years in various ways and only offered a dribble of lukewarm air that could either keep the windscreen from misting or the occupants' toes from freezing, but not both together. I swapped it for a Mk3 heater matrix (two speed fan!) which I flushed and rebuilt with new foam. This was a significant change for the better and the car was properly warm and mist-free from that point on.

mph

2,337 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
These carb mountings were fitted in September after the old ones split, and on Christmas Eve the new ones split. Fixed with cable ties.

#bloomingrimmerbrothers


A quick trawl of the Internet shows you're not alone. The replacements seem to be rubbish.

To be fair to Rimmers they're not the only supplier that doesn't know the meaning of quality control.

Your best option is to go for solid aluminium mounts which are available from the Sprint club or Quiller Triumph.



POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
These carb mountings were fitted in September after the old ones split, and on Christmas Eve the new ones split. Fixed with cable ties.

#bloomingrimmerbrothers


The quality of many reproduction parts is dire, been buying a few jaguar mk2 bits of late and they are appalling

aeropilot

34,614 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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POORCARDEALER said:
Breadvan72 said:
These carb mountings were fitted in September after the old ones split, and on Christmas Eve the new ones split. Fixed with cable ties.

#bloomingrimmerbrothers


The quality of many reproduction parts is dire, been buying a few jaguar mk2 bits of late and they are appalling
Mostly 'Made in China' probably.......

Sadly, though, its often the only way of getting stuff made, or made at a price that means they can be sold at a price that most people are willing to pay for bits rolleyes



Smiler.

11,752 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Could those mounts be fabricated by a 3D printer?

I mean, would a suitable material be available for use with one.

Edited by Smiler. on Tuesday 26th December 14:22

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Smiler. said:
Could those mounts be fabricated by a 3D printer?

I mean, would a suitable material be available for use with one.

Edited by Smiler. on Tuesday 26th December 14:22
This and remove that heavy air filter and replace with a lighter alternative.

Horsetan

410 posts

207 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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aeropilot said:
Mostly 'Made in China' probably.......

Sadly, though, its often the only way of getting stuff made, or made at a price that means they can be sold at a price that most people are willing to pay for bits rolleyes
..and it's only going to get worse. If "Chinese quality" can affect the likes of the London Taxi Company and Aston Martin, what hope is there for the humble classic car industry?

Ardennes92

610 posts

80 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Presumably it is only a problem copying old parts as the Chinese own Volvo but so far quality doesn't seem to have been affected to the same extent, wait to see what happens with lotus now.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Smiler. said:
Could those mounts be fabricated by a 3D printer?

I mean, would a suitable material be available for use with one.
3D printed materials are great for capturing shapes but don't tend to have great structural qualities, as requried by rubbers which have heavy metal things hanging off them.
I think I'd just go for the milled light alloy ones available.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Definitely alloy. I've got a downdraft Weber on my RX and even that would mutilate rubber block insulators... think it's a combination of heat and vibes, but obviously leverage won't be helping. Maybe an alloy spacer with a fibre gasket either side to stop the worst of the heat conduction to the carbs? Won't help with damping out vibration is the downside

a8hex

5,830 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Milled alloy replacements
Nik da Greek said:
Won't help with damping out vibration is the downside
Won't the carbs be wanting some of that damping?
I seem to remember when I replaced the carbs on the XK that there was a rubber piece between the manifold and the carb.
It's donkey's years since I looked at the carbs on a Sprint but I'd have thought the bolt/stud holding the carb in place went straight through the rubber piece. Don't say that's a stud held in place in the rubber piece.

Nik da Greek

2,503 posts

150 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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a8hex said:
Milled alloy replacements
Nik da Greek said:
Won't help with damping out vibration is the downside
Won't the carbs be wanting some of that damping?
Yeah, they will. That's why I said it. The rubber blocks damp both heat and vibration, neither of which is good for the carb. But then, having the isolator split all the time and allow a massively lean mixture which will detonate and blow your pistons to bits isn't good either cry

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Four bike carbs, that's the answer.

aeropilot

34,614 posts

227 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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V8 Fettler said:
Four bike carbs, that's the answer.
Why try to re-invent the wheel when you can just fit proper carbs.....and make a lovely noise as well ..... smile


mph

2,337 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Since the alloy ones are recommended and marketed by the Sprint club and there are more than a few in use I'd assume they're up to the job.

Unlike the Jaguar arrangement, the studs don't go right through the rubber but are embedded in it. Not a great design to start with.

3D printing isn't necessary, just a supplier that's prepared to use the correct material. How difficult can that be ?




anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Lash up -



bigfella70

126 posts

124 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Where would we be as classic car owners without the cable tie !!!

Hopefully you can get a refund from Rimmers on the parts that have failed so quickly. Certainly seems the alloy ones are the way to go, hope it gets sorted soon wink

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Can I add the wire coat hanger to the Pantheon? They work where the cable tie fears to tread.

As for the current setup BV, if the weight of the air filter housing was supported on a bracket (or length of 2x4) would that help until a better replacement is found?