Impromptu BL line up

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anonymous-user

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54 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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I didn't fancy it at first, as I thought that it would be too modern and dull, but it turns out to be pretty good, and certainly worth the money.

RobinSherwood

336 posts

215 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Here are the BL cars in my collection.

1976 Jaguar XJ-S V12 manual car with 42,000 miles from new and full history. The original launch colour scheme too!



1987 Rover Vitesse Twin Plenum, original rot free condition 80,000 miles with history.



1981 Triumph TR8 DHC, genuine factory RHD production car (No 1 of the 18 production DHCs) 35,000 miles with history.


gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Very smart, do they get out much? I'll take the Vitesse please.

Is the red white and blue scheme a coincidence?

strummerville

1,015 posts

127 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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Very impressed! Loving that Vitesse, especially.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Wednesday 27th January 2016
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RobinSherwood said:
Here are the BL cars in my collection.

1976 Jaguar XJ-S V12 manual car with 42,000 miles from new and full history. The original launch colour scheme too!

Aah, MCF460P. I knew this car 20 years ago. It was almost identical to a car I owned at the same time and it was stored in a garage behind what used to be SGT in Taplow.

dbdb

4,325 posts

173 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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The '76 XJ-S is magnificent.

RobinSherwood

336 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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gforceg said:
Very smart, do they get out much? I'll take the Vitesse please.

Is the red white and blue scheme a coincidence?
Yes they do or will do. I did the Euroclassic in the TR8 in 2015 so it did a couple of thousand miles in France last year. The Vitesse and XJ-s are more recent acquisitions so are at the fettling stage but they will also get exercised once they are ready!

I like to use my cars, I would never by a zero miles museum piece. As an example I have driven my Maserati Bora to Budapest in the past!

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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RobinSherwood said:
Yes they do or will do. I did the Euroclassic in the TR8 in 2015 so it did a couple of thousand miles in France last year. The Vitesse and XJ-s are more recent acquisitions so are at the fettling stage but they will also get exercised once they are ready!

I like to use my cars, I would never by a zero miles museum piece. As an example I have driven my Maserati Bora to Budapest in the past!
Great stuff.



P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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RobinSherwood said:
gforceg said:
Very smart, do they get out much? I'll take the Vitesse please.

Is the red white and blue scheme a coincidence?
Yes they do or will do. I did the Euroclassic in the TR8 in 2015 so it did a couple of thousand miles in France last year. The Vitesse and XJ-s are more recent acquisitions so are at the fettling stage but they will also get exercised once they are ready!

I like to use my cars, I would never by a zero miles museum piece. As an example I have driven my Maserati Bora to Budapest in the past!
You have a Bora...? Good man! One of those cars that has to go on 'the list' if my numbers ever came up. Pics please Robin... perhaps start a thread on it...?

MoggieMinor

457 posts

145 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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Those three cars just show what BL was capable of producing when it was allowed to. The manual XJ-S is a stunner of a motor car and was the equal of vehicles costing three times as much when launched. The Rover? Incredible looks and fine handling with that lovely V8. The straight sixes were not far behind in performance either. As for the TR, here was a true sports car with strong performance yet was pulled before launch, what a tragedy. I remember reading in "Fast Car" not long after: "The disaster of the TR7 which was just turning into a very good car when the plug was pulled."

A superb collection there. Enjoy them.

CAPP0

19,578 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
This might be a nice cheap addition to the fleet if you have a chap to do some work.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C659522

It's the car, not the van!
That's lovely. I've always lusted after this shape XJ. I already have 4 cars (plus MrsC's) and rarely drive two of them, another (or more) would destroy me!

mph said:
I've always liked the Dolomite Sprint, trouble is a friend of mine is a Triumph Specialist, has driven dozens of them, restored a few and doesn't rate them too highly.

He particularly dislikes the steering which he says is heavy at parking speeds and weights up in a peculiar manner when cornering hard.

He says the 2000/2500 range or the Stag are much better to drive.

Anyone have similar views, or otherwise ?
Back in the day I owned 6 (I think) Dolomite variants, including one which was always destined to have an RV8 fitted, although the then-MrsC kyboshed that plan; a trait which became a major factor in her own demise. I also drove quite a few of the 2000/2500 variants, early and late. IMO they were very different cars and not a direct comparison in any way. The Dolly was more sporting, and the 2xxx leant more towards the gentleman's express.

I'd have another Sprint now were it not for the comments I made above. I saw a lovely one for sale on the verge of a prestigious village near here a couple of years back and it was all I could do to stop myself hoving off to the cashpoint there & then.



Edited by CAPP0 on Thursday 28th January 21:43

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

217 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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RobinSherwood said:
Here are the BL cars in my collection.

1976 Jaguar XJ-S V12 manual car with 42,000 miles from new and full history. The original launch colour scheme too!
If it's on carbs then the only way to get it running on all 12 is to replace all the miles of vacuum tubes under the bonnet.

Oh, and you may think it's on all 12 but because they are such a smooth engine it is very difficult to tell.

TR4man

5,226 posts

174 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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P5BNij said:
RobinSherwood said:
gforceg said:
Very smart, do they get out much? I'll take the Vitesse please.

Is the red white and blue scheme a coincidence?
Yes they do or will do. I did the Euroclassic in the TR8 in 2015 so it did a couple of thousand miles in France last year. The Vitesse and XJ-s are more recent acquisitions so are at the fettling stage but they will also get exercised once they are ready!

I like to use my cars, I would never by a zero miles museum piece. As an example I have driven my Maserati Bora to Budapest in the past!
You have a Bora...? Good man! One of those cars that has to go on 'the list' if my numbers ever came up. Pics please Robin... perhaps start a thread on it...?
A Bora?

As above, start a thread for us to drool over pleeeaasssseee

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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skeggysteve said:
If it's on carbs then the only way to get it running on all 12 is to replace all the miles of vacuum tubes under the bonnet.

Oh, and you may think it's on all 12 but because they are such a smooth engine it is very difficult to tell.
XJ-S's were always on injection, a Lucas copy of Bosch D jet complete with Lucas 'Opus' ('opeless) ignition. Reliability was not a strong point due to heat soak - the ignition box was in the middle of the V on the early ones iirc. But at least you can swap all 12 plugs without having to move the AC compressor.

RobinSherwood

336 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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gforceg said:
Is the red white and blue scheme a coincidence?
Sorry meant to add, no a coincidence. When buying fairly rare cars I find you generally have to put colour preference to one side.

RobinSherwood

336 posts

215 months

Thursday 28th January 2016
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P5BNij said:
You have a Bora...? Good man! One of those cars that has to go on 'the list' if my numbers ever came up. Pics please Robin... perhaps start a thread on it...?
TR4man said:
A Bora?

As above, start a thread for us to drool over pleeeaasssseee
Currently being restored but I promise to put a thread up about it when it is closer to being done.

But for now here is a picture of the Bora and I lapping Estoril in 2007


Mr Tidy

22,305 posts

127 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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Sorry to continue the hi-jack of this thread, but that Bora is fantastic!clap

Can't wait for the update(s) - soon please!

But OP I think you have captured pretty much all elements of BL in your line-up - thank you for keeping them alive. thumbup

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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No hijack apology needed! I think that discussion should always flow in whatever way it flows, and it is cool to see a Bora. My personal hankering is for a Merak, which I know is daft as it has, AIUI, a weaker engine than the one used in the Bora, but I still have a yen for one.

Great also to see the V12 XJS and the Vitesse and TR 8 above.

My own Britheap line up could perhaps be augmented by something Austiny, but although I have been tempted for reasons of family nostalgia to get either an 1100, a 1300 or a Princess, I probably shan't. I am still dithering over a Series One Daimler Sovereign.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 29th January 15:24

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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CAPP0 said:
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I'd have another Sprint now were it not for the comments I made above. I saw a lovely one for sale on the verge of a prestigious village near here a couple of years back and it was all I could do to stop myself hoving off to the cashpoint there & then.



Edited by CAPP0 on Thursday 28th January 21:43
Every mechanic that I know rates the Sprint as a good car. It is true that it was built, for budget reasons, as a collection of make dos and factory bodges, but it all works much better than it should, given those limitations. My one was rebuilt to a high standard and is a decent machine. There is no need to be put off by one Eeyore voice, and it may be worth bearing in mind that experience working on the badly built and maybe badly maintained Sprints of yesteryear may not equate to working on the carefully restored and well maintained Sprints that are available today.

PGM

2,168 posts

249 months

Friday 29th January 2016
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RobinSherwood said:
Here are the BL cars in my collection.



1987 Rover Vitesse Twin Plenum, original rot free condition 80,000 miles with history.

Original, rot free condition? I thought they came out of the factory with rot as standard?

Lovely pair of cars there.