Anticipating the next rising classic stars...
Discussion
Hi All
Probably a bit like predicting the next 6 lotto numbers, but what do you all think are the next batch of cars to become value-rising classics?
Lets say cars built mid eighties to late 90s...Old, but not yet old enough to be proper classics.
As a start I believe the Peugeot 205GTI will be (nothing to do with me owning one) and is partly there..
But what else - and how on earth do you preempt an appreciating classic of the future...? The BMW M3 CSL is going bonkers, as are other cars, but other exciting ones not so much....
Thanks
Probably a bit like predicting the next 6 lotto numbers, but what do you all think are the next batch of cars to become value-rising classics?
Lets say cars built mid eighties to late 90s...Old, but not yet old enough to be proper classics.
As a start I believe the Peugeot 205GTI will be (nothing to do with me owning one) and is partly there..
But what else - and how on earth do you preempt an appreciating classic of the future...? The BMW M3 CSL is going bonkers, as are other cars, but other exciting ones not so much....
Thanks
robert78 said:
Hi All
Probably a bit like predicting the next 6 lotto numbers, but what do you all think are the next batch of cars to become value-rising classics?
Lets say cars built mid eighties to late 90s...Old, but not yet old enough to be proper classics.
As a start I believe the Peugeot 205GTI will be (nothing to do with me owning one) and is partly there..
But what else - and how on earth do you preempt an appreciating classic of the future...? The BMW M3 CSL is going bonkers, as are other cars, but other exciting ones not so much....
Thanks
Eighties stuff is already on the rise - Golf Mk1's/MkII's, etcProbably a bit like predicting the next 6 lotto numbers, but what do you all think are the next batch of cars to become value-rising classics?
Lets say cars built mid eighties to late 90s...Old, but not yet old enough to be proper classics.
As a start I believe the Peugeot 205GTI will be (nothing to do with me owning one) and is partly there..
But what else - and how on earth do you preempt an appreciating classic of the future...? The BMW M3 CSL is going bonkers, as are other cars, but other exciting ones not so much....
Thanks
I think you need to look at mid-90's stuff and newer to catch it on the bottom of the appreciation curve.
Stuff that was good when it came out and is still good to drive now is the formula, along with limited availability of good examples and/or general rarity.
I'd be looking medium-long term at
Subaru Impreza Turbo
E46 M3
Peugeot 306 GTI-6 / Rallye
Porsche Boxsters can't stay that cheap for long, but the potential pitfall is there's loads of them about, for now - they used to say that about a lot of expensive stuff....
Willhire89 said:
History says to be a dead cert it should have a Ford badge
Escort Cosworth - too late?
Is there some extra special edition Mondeo or Focus?
Mondeo has no 'halo' model like a Cosworth or RS to make it desirable. No petrol-head ever dreamed of owning a Mondeo at 12 years old like they did a Mexico/RS Turbo/Twin Cam/CosworthEscort Cosworth - too late?
Is there some extra special edition Mondeo or Focus?
Late 90's onwards Fords, with the possible exception of Focus RS models, aren't really that classic fodder, IMO.
All Cosworths are already there for decent stuff.
history teaches us that whats worthless today stays worthless in a upward interest rate cycle. I wouldn't touch any of it.
mass produced, low valued cars on the periphery of peoples interest won't be a sensible 'investment' IMHO.
As sure as the tide goes out.....interest rates will go back up. Problem now is how many people have got used to benign interest rates, cheap money and leveraged lifestyles (not 7 years after the last bout of 'living beyond ones means').
Some of us have grey hairs on here and tell you about the misery of the mid 70's, late 80's and early nineties.
....but if you must spend I would look at unmolested, unmarked, low mileage, well serviced hot hatches of the 90's.
mass produced, low valued cars on the periphery of peoples interest won't be a sensible 'investment' IMHO.
As sure as the tide goes out.....interest rates will go back up. Problem now is how many people have got used to benign interest rates, cheap money and leveraged lifestyles (not 7 years after the last bout of 'living beyond ones means').
Some of us have grey hairs on here and tell you about the misery of the mid 70's, late 80's and early nineties.
....but if you must spend I would look at unmolested, unmarked, low mileage, well serviced hot hatches of the 90's.
Any thoughts on the Ford Puma? Most are rusting away. Not my cup of tea but they were well regarded by many.
I saw an ad for a pretty ropey looking MK II Escort the other day. Nothing special it was either a Popular or L model, and the sort of motor that 25 years ago would have made a council estate look shabby. It was something like 3k
Maybe I should buy a brand new low spec Focus and shove it in a lock up for three or four decades....
I saw an ad for a pretty ropey looking MK II Escort the other day. Nothing special it was either a Popular or L model, and the sort of motor that 25 years ago would have made a council estate look shabby. It was something like 3k
Maybe I should buy a brand new low spec Focus and shove it in a lock up for three or four decades....
wildcat45 said:
Any thoughts on the Ford Puma? Most are rusting away. Not my cup of tea but they were well regarded by many.
As I founded / run a Puma forum & club I see lots that are very well cared for and loved. I also see lots of utter dogs which are dragging prices down.Limited run ones like the Millennium and the bit more powerful Racing will become collectable if in good condition and their values will rise. Still bumbling about on the bottom at the moment.
wildcat45 said:
Any thoughts on the Ford Puma? Most are rusting away. Not my cup of tea but they were well regarded by many.
I saw an ad for a pretty ropey looking MK II Escort the other day. Nothing special it was either a Popular or L model, and the sort of motor that 25 years ago would have made a council estate look shabby. It was something like 3k
Maybe I should buy a brand new low spec Focus and shove it in a lock up for three or four decades....
Puma is a good shoutI saw an ad for a pretty ropey looking MK II Escort the other day. Nothing special it was either a Popular or L model, and the sort of motor that 25 years ago would have made a council estate look shabby. It was something like 3k
Maybe I should buy a brand new low spec Focus and shove it in a lock up for three or four decades....
MkII Escorts are popular because they're RWD, simple to work on, etc.
I can't see a Focus having the same appeal in 30 years time
Some of the obscure jap stuff will appreciate, Celica GT Four perhaps being one such example, along with early "sorted" (meaning clean and standard) Imprezas. Anything that has some rarity value attached to it. Even stuff like Calibra Turbo's and the more potent end of the Vauxhall model range, Cavalier Turbos etc. There will come a day when the mass produced stuff becomes expensive based upon limited numbers being left. We're seeing that is boggo Escorts now.
I'm not sure what kind of figures 4x4 Sierras and the 2.8's are commanding, along with clean and tidy Granada Scorpios. Perhaps a few examples of appreciating vehicles which might or might not be worth looking for now, tidying up and sitting on, provided you have the space to do so of course
I'm not sure what kind of figures 4x4 Sierras and the 2.8's are commanding, along with clean and tidy Granada Scorpios. Perhaps a few examples of appreciating vehicles which might or might not be worth looking for now, tidying up and sitting on, provided you have the space to do so of course
Muzzer79 said:
Willhire89 said:
History says to be a dead cert it should have a Ford badge
Escort Cosworth - too late?
Is there some extra special edition Mondeo or Focus?
Mondeo has no 'halo' model like a Cosworth or RS to make it desirable. No petrol-head ever dreamed of owning a Mondeo at 12 years old like they did a Mexico/RS Turbo/Twin Cam/CosworthEscort Cosworth - too late?
Is there some extra special edition Mondeo or Focus?
Late 90's onwards Fords, with the possible exception of Focus RS models, aren't really that classic fodder, IMO.
All Cosworths are already there for decent stuff.
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