Anticipating the next rising classic stars...

Anticipating the next rising classic stars...

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Nors

1,291 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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rufusgti said:
swisstoni said:
The fun in all this is nobody has a clue. It also assumes that there are rising generations that will continue to give a toss about old cars.
Today's kids could easily regard old cars the same way as most of us regard old washing machines or computers.
That's a very interesting point, and one I've never considered. Yet speaking with younger generations it could well be the case.
I've discussed this with mates many times, with particular reference to Mk1 & 2 Ford Escorts. In 10 or 15 years time, are there really going to be people coming through that are going to pay £20+k for an old Ford Escort? They probably won't even know what it is, let alone pay all that money for one!!


Nors

1,291 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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85Carrera said:
DaveCWK said:
10 years from now people in their 40s will have a bit of cash & want to relive their youth. What cars were popular in video games during the 90s? In mint condition they are all probably safe bets.
All the high profile jap turbo stuff from the period are the obvious choices.
This. Jap crap will be all the rage.
+1

If there's going to be another round of 'classics' then I suspect this will be the era and the reasons behind it.

Nors

1,291 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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As a side topic, who is going to be around that want's to pay £££££ for all the high priced Vintage stuff in 20+ years??

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

195 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Escort Cossie might seem expensive now, but they will keep on rising-look at 3 door Sieras.

I'd say the Racing Puma is also in with a shout, but the Saphire 4x4 has great potential too and most importantly the rally pedigree and future classic rally car status that'll see them fetch huge money in the future.

I'd also echo the Subaru & Mitsubishi Evo thoughts as they were the poster/playstation cars for people in my age bracket. In 10 years time these people will be approaching 50 and tray to splurge!

I'd say all that's a great spread of cars available from £5-25k that will provide enjoyment over the next 10 years with the possibility of, if not a return then at least an increase to cover your costs.

gdaybruce

753 posts

224 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Lotus Elises should be on the list. I nearly bought an S1 a couple of years ago but thought they were still depreciating so held off. Since then, however, prices have done nothing but rise. Instead I bought a Honda S2000 to use and enjoy, not expecting it to do anything other than depreciate. However, it appears that the price of these is beginning to harden as well. I guess it's a case of a) not sold in vast numbers, b) a little bit quirky and c) characterful with at least one outstanding feature, in the Honda's case the engine, the likes of which we'll not see again in an affordable mainstream car. Will values continue to rise? Who knows - my plan is just to continue to enjoy it!

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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short term

Mk1 Golf GTI
E46 M3
986 Boxster
911 SC / 3.2

long term

untouched, 100% clean and original:
japanese "tuner" cars (Subaru WRX, Lancer Evo, etc - as mentioned above)
Golf R32?
http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/Gran_Turismo_3:...

very long term

anything sporty with 3 pedals and a steering wheel, providing legislation allows these cars to be driven in 30+ years

Edited by EricE on Thursday 23 July 10:18

CRA1G

6,498 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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If you can catch a good BMW Z3M Coupe or Roadster.. but I think your 2 years too late now as the coupes have gone mad,but E31 8 series and E36 M3's are still reasonable if you can find a good one I think your on to a safe bet.! I can see them definitely rising in the near future.!




I bloody hope so anyway...... I've got all three tucked away...... hehe

robert78

Original Poster:

149 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Nors said:
I've discussed this with mates many times, with particular reference to Mk1 & 2 Ford Escorts. In 10 or 15 years time, are there really going to be people coming through that are going to pay £20+k for an old Ford Escort? They probably won't even know what it is, let alone pay all that money for one!!
Mk1 Ford Escorts are already £20k+ now, and the term "old ford escort" would be maybe more appropriate when they were 10/15 years old, like most cars coming to the end of their life..But they are well past this initial phase and on the rise as classics now.

As for kids not knowing what an Escort is, I can't see that being an issue - maybe the masses may not know what a Mk1 Escort is years from now, but thats the same for any niche classic car I guess.

The fact is buying classic cars is, and will continue to be, a hobby for the relatively affluent market of car fanatics - and there will always be a following. An interest in cars won't dry up because of the "Playstation" generation. Just wait until they turn 17 and leave the innocence of computer games for the real thing smile

rossub

4,400 posts

189 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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niagra said:
I think you'll be surprised to know that there are only around 2000 left down, from 20odd thousand only a few years ago. Just looked at how mamy left, it seems there are only 1400 on the road.
Did you notice there are 4,400 on SORN though?

If prices took off, it would make it economical to bring some "projects" to life. I honestly think the 205 market is self regulating, due to the number that are still out there.

1,400 on the road in Jan-March is a lot considering the youngest ones are 22 years old.


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Clio Williams
Nissan Pulsar GTI-R (beast from the east)
R32 Skyline
Renault Spyder
DB7
Massa 3200GT
Nissan Figaro
DeLorean
Griffith
RS2
944 Turbo S
928GTS

That's a bloody nice list of cars with asking prices not stupidity high and attainable by "most" people if they were willing to compromise on fewer holidays or change DD every 8 years not 3.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

131 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Mark 2 Jag, again.

grumpy52

5,565 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd July 2015
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Any limited or special edition jag from the 80's or 90's.
The special edition Saab 900's and 9000's .
Volvo 850 t5's
They are just beginning to creep up in price and should only improve in the future .
With the jap stuff , I have a feeling they may suddenly want to hang on to their motoring heritage and original unmolested examples will sky rocket .

Buzzfan

114 posts

193 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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Porsche 911 996's are around £9-15k now, and Boxster 987's for £ 4-8k - affordable, dynamic - perhaps a 5 year bet

rossub

4,400 posts

189 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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grumpy52 said:
With the jap stuff , I have a feeling they may suddenly want to hang on to their motoring heritage and original unmolested examples will sky rocket .
Its already happening. The stuff they want to keep is generally too expensive to import now - NSX, R34 GTR, Evo TME etc. You get the odd small numbers being imported here, but you've got to be pretty die hard to cough up.

The US can only import cars over 25 years old - that means we're into 1990 for them now and stuff like R32 GTRs are heading over there.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

197 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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rossub said:
Its already happening. The stuff they want to keep is generally too expensive to import now - NSX, R34 GTR, Evo TME etc. You get the odd small numbers being imported here, but you've got to be pretty die hard to cough up.

The US can only import cars over 25 years old - that means we're into 1990 for them now and stuff like R32 GTRs are heading over there.
Cerbera in another 7 years for the USA.

jamies30

5,910 posts

228 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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rossub said:
The US can only import cars over 25 years old - that means we're into 1990 for them now
Yep, SZs are turning that age now too.

PAUL500

2,627 posts

245 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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We need to remember the height of the car crazy years and subsequent theft generation was the late 80s / early 90s a lot of the fun stuff got killed off after that by huge insurance premiums, the generation of drivers after that tended to move away from cars and onto other things, so I see collectables and the buyers of such peeking at that period, the internet came along after that.

I have often wondered if very early cars will lose its market eventually as the enthusiasts die off, will people in their 30s 40s 50s now be interested in London to Brighton type stuff in 20 years time?



Edited by PAUL500 on Friday 24th July 19:47

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

193 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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She's remaining very standard for reasons pointed out above!

eccles

13,720 posts

221 months

Friday 24th July 2015
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I can't imagine the prices of early MX5's will get any lower. Good, un-messed with early examples are getting quite thin on the ground.

4rephill

5,040 posts

177 months

Saturday 25th July 2015
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BMW E36 coupes, especially the 318is, the 328i Sport and the M3's - It's the 90's equivalent of the Ford Capri and they're getting rarer by the day!

As with the Capri, in a couple of years time they are going to look surprisingly good in amongst the more modern traffic and they're going to be sought after!