Best Lookng Kamm Rear Ends?

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Vanin

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Sunday 6th September 2015
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slomax said:
ive always loved the Marcos back end, especially on the 3 litre.



I think that there are a lot of lovely rear ends on this thread thanks for posting. I have also learned a thing or two such as the flip tail not being part of Prof Kamm's theory.
I think the Marcos seems to be the shape most faithful to the teardrop as it tapers both horizontally and vertically at the rear as well as being gorgeous.
I am not sure of its c. of drag but then the same early 128 bhp V6 Essex engine would be pushed to make a Capri do 115 mph, it managed at least another 10 mph with the Marcos.

kiseca

9,339 posts

219 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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I always really liked the Kamm tail and the separated tail lights on the Alfetta GT / GTV cars.


V8 Fettler

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132 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Pete Brock was a genius. No computers, no wind tunnel, minimal resource. And yet he designed a car that was so fast it made Ferrari run away.

Fit a modern diesel engine and it would be very good as a long distance commuter.


swindler

254 posts

179 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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The 250 Breadvan is sensational: so 'racing-functional'. But Kamm tails don't always work. The DB6 looks dreadful next to a DB4. OK not just because of the rear end but the wheelbase etc which wrecks the design.

Vanin

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166 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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[quote But Kamm tails don't always work. The DB6 looks dreadful next to a DB4. OK not just because of the rear end but the wheelbase etc which wrecks the design.
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Now that is very subjective and stirring! It is one of those comments reinforced by repetition. The poor DB6 suffers a lot from this, abandoned Supperleggera bodywork, much heavier, a truck to drive. I call it crapetition, a new word for the Oxford Dictionary!
The DB4 has a purity of line and is very 1950s and ordinary in many ways looking very much like many other cars of the time. Particularly the AC Greyhound from the rear and not unlike many Austin/Morris Farina designs both front and rear.

Again referring to my first post, I have never heard anybody say that the rear of the Lusso looks dreadful? It is very similar.

Read this month's Octane!

RichB

51,587 posts

284 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Vanin said:
The DB4 has a purity of line and is very 1950s and ordinary in many ways looking very much like many other cars of the time. Particularly the AC Greyhound from the rear...
In fact rather like the DB MkIII - indeed I consider the DB4 to the DB MkIII rather like an english pair of brogues compared to an Italian pair of shoes.

Incidentally the DB6 copies the DB MkIII rear window shape but the MkIII doesn't have a Kamm tail, fortunately!

Vanin

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166 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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The Mk 111 is gorgeous too.
I think that a problem with the DB6 from some angles is that if it had the same triangular window as the 4 and 5 it would emphasise the line from the top of the doors to the rear which disappears in some paint colours when viewed from the side.
This gives a slab sided image in a photo which does not appear in the flesh.
It's best angle is a three quarter viewed from the rear.
The 4 and 5 have an awkward looking joint where the roof meets the tail. There is a rather sharp curve which makes it look as though the roof has been added as an afterthought as opposed to the way the 6 roof flows into the rear.

We all have our good and bad sides when posing do we not?!!

LordBretSinclair

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177 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Vanin said:
The poor DB6 suffers a lot from this, abandoned Supperleggera bodywork, much heavier, a truck to drive. I call it crapetition, a new word for the Oxford Dictionary!
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So when did you last actually drive a DB6 for any length of time?????

I drive this particular example on a regular basis and it's a joy to drive - nothing like a truck !!!!



Vanin

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Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LordBretSinclair said:
So when did you last actually drive a DB6 for any length of time?????

I drive this particular example on a regular basis and it's a joy to drive - nothing like a truck !!!!


I do not think you have quite understood what I mean by crapetition, which is the repetition of crap.
Journalists read other journalists pieces without doing their own research. Auction houses are worse.
The DB6 is a delight to drive, is not a truck and they only made a few changes to the sub structure to the roof which supports the aluminium panel and which actually weighs less than the Superleggera original as well as being stronger.
The car actually weighs less than a top range VW Golf.

The answer to your question is thirty four years.

RichB

51,587 posts

284 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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LordBretSinclair said:
So when did you last actually drive a DB6 for any length of time?????
He's agreeing with you wink

Mr_C

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229 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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Edited by Mr_C on Tuesday 8th September 20:52

Edmundo2

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210 months

Tuesday 8th September 2015
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All very nice indeed!