Why did so few of Chris Evans's cars sell?
Discussion
Sheepshanks said:
Someone on the show this week asked about borrowing one of his Ferraris and he said "they've all gone now". Could just be a figure of speech, I suppose.
I heard that too.Hooli said:
Not wanting to give money to a t
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Didn't he say all the proceeds were going to Children in Need? Or was that just the automobilia?t?Can't really understand some of the hatred for the guy. He may not be everyone's cup of tea stylistically, but for someone with such a passion for cars, a lust for life and an altruistic streak, it seems like he must have slapped someone's mother to be called a "tw@t". Perhaps that's the internet effect for you.
He seems like a guy who looks after his cars, and buys the best available. I can't see why there would be any negative connotations associated with buying an ex-Evans car. Moreover, given his approach, one might posit a positive impact on prices.
He seems like a guy who looks after his cars, and buys the best available. I can't see why there would be any negative connotations associated with buying an ex-Evans car. Moreover, given his approach, one might posit a positive impact on prices.
C70R said:
Can't really understand some of the hatred for the guy. He may not be everyone's cup of tea stylistically, but for someone with such a passion for cars, a lust for life and an altruistic streak, it seems like he must have slapped someone's mother to be called a "tw@t".
He was an arse, but he quite famously turned his life around. Sheepshanks said:
C70R said:
Can't really understand some of the hatred for the guy. He may not be everyone's cup of tea stylistically, but for someone with such a passion for cars, a lust for life and an altruistic streak, it seems like he must have slapped someone's mother to be called a "tw@t".
He was an arse, but he quite famously turned his life around. He's a huge philanthropist, a family man, a car enthusiast and has achieved more than 99.99% of others ever will (largely through application of hard work and will). I can't see what's not to like about the guy.
Personally, I find his sycophantic presentation style a bit jarring, but I still listen to R2 most mornings.
Some of the comments about him seem a bit harsh, at best.
C70R said:
Personally, I find his sycophantic presentation style a bit jarring, but I still listen to R2 most mornings.
Don't know how old you are, but did you listen to him on Radio1? He was just rude to people most of time (when he turned up).The way he is with people now is stunningly different.
Full respect to Chris Evans for:
1. Making lots of money
2. Building a fabulous career
3. Designing his life so that he can enjoy the things he really likes i.e. fabulous cars, his family and hanging around with the rich and famous.
But marred by:
1. Ocean going ego; its all about Chris Evans
2. Creepy 'everybody is fabulous and you are all so talented' gushing on and on.
3. Cannot stop talking about his marathon/achievements/kids/wife yawn yawn
4. Chris Evans in general
cheers
Rick (only a bit envious)!
1. Making lots of money
2. Building a fabulous career
3. Designing his life so that he can enjoy the things he really likes i.e. fabulous cars, his family and hanging around with the rich and famous.
But marred by:
1. Ocean going ego; its all about Chris Evans
2. Creepy 'everybody is fabulous and you are all so talented' gushing on and on.
3. Cannot stop talking about his marathon/achievements/kids/wife yawn yawn
4. Chris Evans in general
cheers
Rick (only a bit envious)!
ewenm said:
Cheaper lots are afforable for and bought by dreamers and enthusiasts, people who've always wanted one, etc...
Expensive lots are only going to be sold to investors who may be nervous about the economic situation at the moment (China et al).
This is exactly it. The investment capital is staying in cash at present. The retail buyers are unchanged but the investment money is sitting tight. Expensive lots are only going to be sold to investors who may be nervous about the economic situation at the moment (China et al).
treetops said:
Guys the classic car boom is over. That's the reason. It's boomed and now busted. Plenty dealers shi****g themselves with stock they cannot shift. Be wary!!
Agree with this having just spent 5 months selling an old Porsche. Most of what you read on these pages are sellers talking values up. Same cars are still for sale now that were there at the start of the summer. Evans seems to have missed the boat by a few months, I'm sure he'll just stick them back on the trickle chargers and turn the lights out until next summer, dealers on the other hand are going to be bricking itWhat a strange attitude. I for one would, if I had the means, certainly buy a car from him since I would be sure and certain that it had been well looked after. He worked hard to make his fortune, rents out his cars to the highest bidder for charity, and is a real petrol head. What more can one ask? When I was a member of the FOC I was welcomed with open arms, even though only having a 348. I mean, is this not rubbing shoulders with the wealthy? We had a lovely time chatting:-
This was when the Pilkingtons owned the car, but I am sure that if it had been Chris Evans he would have been just as agreeable.
I've never met Chris Evans and am unlikely to, but I wouldn't think he'd put on airs and graces like some I know.
This was when the Pilkingtons owned the car, but I am sure that if it had been Chris Evans he would have been just as agreeable.
I've never met Chris Evans and am unlikely to, but I wouldn't think he'd put on airs and graces like some I know.
lowdrag said:
What a strange attitude.
I've never met Chris Evans and am unlikely to, but I wouldn't think he'd put on airs and graces like some I know.
I think you'll find the recent Saint Chris Evans is in the job spec for his lucrative contract with the BBC so don't be hoodwinked by his charity donations, they probably helped him get the lucrative Top Gear job. Anything Chris Evan's does is for his own ego, the man is a charlatan. I've never met Chris Evans and am unlikely to, but I wouldn't think he'd put on airs and graces like some I know.
Raygun said:
I think you'll find the recent Saint Chris Evans is in the job spec for his lucrative contract with the BBC so don't be hoodwinked by his charity donations, they probably helped him get the lucrative Top Gear job. Anything Chris Evan's does is for his own ego, the man is a charlatan.
Evidence?Raygun said:
He's seen as someone who is naff by a lot of people and I can imagine not too popular in the Ferrari world or potential Ferrari buyers. I don't think you would be able to hide the fact that he once owned the car either.
You have a very vivid imagination just like my son. Are you also 7 years old?I think in "the Ferrari world", just like "the Real world", he'll be (a) relatively unknown, or (b) of very mild interest to some. The market for classic Ferrari is global & outside of the UK, Evans is pretty much a nobody.
I think the fact that Chris Evans had once owned a particular car is neither here nor there. It might be an interesting point to some people, but I can't imagine anyone putting a premium on a car just because he'd owned it. Not something you'd boast about, but not something you'd particularly want to hide either.
The reasons these cars didn't sell have been pretty well covered in this thread - being Chris Evans cars has nothing to do with it. He should have sold them a year ago at a higher profile auction.
northwest monkey said:
You have a very vivid imagination just like my son. Are you also 7 years old?
I think in "the Ferrari world", just like "the Real world", he'll be (a) relatively unknown, or (b) of very mild interest to some. The market for classic Ferrari is global & outside of the UK, Evans is pretty much a nobody.
I think the fact that Chris Evans had once owned a particular car is neither here nor there. It might be an interesting point to some people, but I can't imagine anyone putting a premium on a car just because he'd owned it. Not something you'd boast about, but not something you'd particularly want to hide either.
The reasons these cars didn't sell have been pretty well covered in this thread - being Chris Evans cars has nothing to do with it. He should have sold them a year ago at a higher profile auction.
I understand that you are protective of your 'local boy who made it' but the fact remains as can be seen on this thread that some people have an intense dislike of the man, even a 7 year old like myself can see that and IF any of these people are/were in a position of buying an expensive Ferrari they would be put off by the connection to Chris Evans.I think in "the Ferrari world", just like "the Real world", he'll be (a) relatively unknown, or (b) of very mild interest to some. The market for classic Ferrari is global & outside of the UK, Evans is pretty much a nobody.
I think the fact that Chris Evans had once owned a particular car is neither here nor there. It might be an interesting point to some people, but I can't imagine anyone putting a premium on a car just because he'd owned it. Not something you'd boast about, but not something you'd particularly want to hide either.
The reasons these cars didn't sell have been pretty well covered in this thread - being Chris Evans cars has nothing to do with it. He should have sold them a year ago at a higher profile auction.
northwest monkey said:
You have a very vivid imagination just like my son. Are you also 7 years old?
I think in "the Ferrari world", just like "the Real world", he'll be (a) relatively unknown, or (b) of very mild interest to some. The market for classic Ferrari is global & outside of the UK, Evans is pretty much a nobody.
I think the fact that Chris Evans had once owned a particular car is neither here nor there. It might be an interesting point to some people, but I can't imagine anyone putting a premium on a car just because he'd owned it. Not something you'd boast about, but not something you'd particularly want to hide either.
The reasons these cars didn't sell have been pretty well covered in this thread - being Chris Evans cars has nothing to do with it. He should have sold them a year ago at a higher profile auction.
In addition, one of the reasons for the market liking cars that have been held in known collections is a simple matter of provenance. I think in "the Ferrari world", just like "the Real world", he'll be (a) relatively unknown, or (b) of very mild interest to some. The market for classic Ferrari is global & outside of the UK, Evans is pretty much a nobody.
I think the fact that Chris Evans had once owned a particular car is neither here nor there. It might be an interesting point to some people, but I can't imagine anyone putting a premium on a car just because he'd owned it. Not something you'd boast about, but not something you'd particularly want to hide either.
The reasons these cars didn't sell have been pretty well covered in this thread - being Chris Evans cars has nothing to do with it. He should have sold them a year ago at a higher profile auction.
It isn't so much about the celebrity, for the reasons you say, but about valuable assets being held securely.
Take Nick Mason as a key example. You wouldn't pay over the odds for one of his cars because he played the drums for a few years, you would be paying for the credibility of his collection, the fact that this car is far more likely to not only be a real Ferrari but will also have been less likely to have been mucked about with and looked after by a known professional.
Unknown Ferrari that hasn't been seen for x years and appears in the market being sold by a strange chap or the same car that has been in a known collection for x years.
It's the act of it being part of a collection that adds the value more than the owner of that collection being a celebrity.
It's really no different from gold or wine having more value of it has been stored reputably as opposed to kept in the garage.
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