Why did so few of Chris Evans's cars sell?
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C70R said:
Sheepshanks said:
C70R said:
Can't really understand some of the hatred for the guy. He may not be everyone's cup of tea stylistically, but for someone with such a passion for cars, a lust for life and an altruistic streak, it seems like he must have slapped someone's mother to be called a "tw@t".
He was an arse, but he quite famously turned his life around. He's a huge philanthropist, a family man, a car enthusiast and has achieved more than 99.99% of others ever will (largely through application of hard work and will). I can't see what's not to like about the guy.
Personally, I find his sycophantic presentation style a bit jarring, but I still listen to R2 most mornings.
Some of the comments about him seem a bit harsh, at best.
No Bend said:
I'd never heard of the bloke until I saw the top gear episode where carkson was looking at his ferraris. Only had the experience recently of hearing him on the radio, just some sort of inane drivel punctuated with him squeaking a bike horn incessantly. Oh, and lots of time filling, 'Can I be in your club?' palava. This bloke gets paid a fortune for doing that? Wow.
To be fair, he gets paid a commensurate salary for doing that. He made is wealth by creating an extremely lucrative media company and selling it very intelligently. DonkeyApple said:
To be fair, he gets paid a commensurate salary for doing that. He made is wealth by creating an extremely lucrative media company and selling it very intelligently.
To be even fairer, I expect he has given more to charity than the rest of us on this thread combined. He is a major petrolhead. And a very clever businessman who, I would imagine has probably made more than all of us combined. His media work reflects his other passion - he certainly does not need the money - and if you don't like his style, don't watch/listen. I understand people not liking him - although I doubt many have first hand experience - but why so much vitriol?
More chips here than in Harry Ramsden's!
drmark said:
To be even fairer, I expect he has given more to charity than the rest of us on this thread combined. He is a major petrolhead. And a very clever businessman who, I would imagine has probably made more than all of us combined. His media work reflects his other passion - he certainly does not need the money - and if you don't like his style, don't watch/listen.
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I do avoid him, but given he's taking over one of my favourite TV shows I feel I can say I can't stand the guy. I've been wondering what the fuss is all about since he turned up on Sunday afternoons on Radio 1.I)
DonkeyApple said:
To be fair, he gets paid a commensurate salary for doing that. He made is wealth by creating an extremely lucrative media company and selling it very intelligently.
Not quite, if you are talking about the sale of Ginger Media Group early this century? That was in fact relatively disastrously handled eventually leaving him with almost nothing. He has since amassed another fortune (enough for his current lifestyle) although it is not immediately apparent, to me, how. ToneyCaroney said:
Not quite, if you are talking about the sale of Ginger Media Group early this century? That was in fact relatively disastrously handled eventually leaving him with almost nothing. He has since amassed another fortune (enough for his current lifestyle) although it is not immediately apparent, to me, how.
It left him with plenty - albeit a lot less than it could of (100 million plus) had he been a bit more sensible / behaved.I think some people have implied something into the comments that being an ex Chris Evans car devalues them. It is not so much a result of him being liked, disliked, or anything in between. I actually quite like him, but that is irrelevant. I just feel that if I could afford one of the best Ferraris, I wouldn't want my car, everywhere I took it, to have people reflecting on it being his old car. It would be my car, but maybe never feel 100% like it could be. With that amount of money, I would just choose a different one to avoid that blot on my ownership experience.
Edited by alolympic on Monday 21st September 06:37
Raygun said:
I understand that you are protective of your 'local boy who made it' but the fact remains as can be seen on this thread that some people have an intense dislike of the man, even a 7 year old like myself can see that and IF any of these people are/were in a position of buying an expensive Ferrari they would be put off by the connection to Chris Evans.
If my Aunty had a dick she'd be my Uncle.
Seriously, you need to get a grip. I think the "Ferrari World" as you put it is slightly larger than the occupants of this thread. The fact that some people on this thread dislike him intensely will have pretty much sweet FA with the fact that his cars didn't do as well as they could have done 12 months ago.
As for me liking Chris Evans - I have no real opinion on him, "local boy" or not. I used to like TFI Friday, never really listened to him on the radio. I'd actually forgotten he was from the NW - not particularly local to me though as it happens.
It's a very strange world where someone would say "I don't like how that bloke presents his radio show, therefore his cars are worth less to me" or "I don't like that he's got a bit of an ego, therefore I wouldn't pay market-rate for his car".
It strikes me that Evans' cars having been part of a very public collection implies a degree of provenance, and he's clearly paid a lot of love and attention to them. Whether or not you like the guy should surely be immaterial. Yes, the cars certainly don't come with the same sort of cache as an ex-James Dean or Steve McQueen car. But to suggest that they should be simply at or below market rate because you don't like the guy is a bit of a strange position to take...
Incidentally, his style grates on me a touch, although I was an enormous fan of TGIF. Also, I don't particularly like Pink Floyd's music, but it wouldn't make me discredit/devalue a Nick Mason car.
It strikes me that Evans' cars having been part of a very public collection implies a degree of provenance, and he's clearly paid a lot of love and attention to them. Whether or not you like the guy should surely be immaterial. Yes, the cars certainly don't come with the same sort of cache as an ex-James Dean or Steve McQueen car. But to suggest that they should be simply at or below market rate because you don't like the guy is a bit of a strange position to take...
Incidentally, his style grates on me a touch, although I was an enormous fan of TGIF. Also, I don't particularly like Pink Floyd's music, but it wouldn't make me discredit/devalue a Nick Mason car.
C70R said:
It's a very strange world where someone would say "I don't like how that bloke presents his radio show, therefore his cars are worth less to me" or "I don't like that he's got a bit of an ego, therefore I wouldn't pay market-rate for his car".
It strikes me that Evans' cars having been part of a very public collection implies a degree of provenance, and he's clearly paid a lot of love and attention to them. Whether or not you like the guy should surely be immaterial. Yes, the cars certainly don't come with the same sort of cache as an ex-James Dean or Steve McQueen car. But to suggest that they should be simply at or below market rate because you don't like the guy is a bit of a strange position to take...
I totally agree with you, and it is odd, however it's a fact.It strikes me that Evans' cars having been part of a very public collection implies a degree of provenance, and he's clearly paid a lot of love and attention to them. Whether or not you like the guy should surely be immaterial. Yes, the cars certainly don't come with the same sort of cache as an ex-James Dean or Steve McQueen car. But to suggest that they should be simply at or below market rate because you don't like the guy is a bit of a strange position to take...
Imagine if Rolf Harris had a 250 SWB kicking around in storage. Proceeds to his estate. Would it fetch the same as one from an 'unknown' owner?
In reality, it wouldn't.
Muzzer79 said:
I totally agree with you, and it is odd, however it's a fact.
Imagine if Rolf Harris had a 250 SWB kicking around in storage. Proceeds to his estate. Would it fetch the same as one from an 'unknown' owner?
In reality, it wouldn't.
Rolf's slightly different to Chris Evans though isn't he? One's a convicted paedophile, the other is a rich and successful DJ that you personally dislike.Imagine if Rolf Harris had a 250 SWB kicking around in storage. Proceeds to his estate. Would it fetch the same as one from an 'unknown' owner?
In reality, it wouldn't.
I think a more accurate analogy would be- would you buy a classic Ferrari from France's most popular radio DJ?
I dislike Chris Evans, and I am pleased that his cars are not worth what he thought they were.
However, that is not the same as Chris Evans' ownership actually devaluing his cars to below their intrinsic worth, which is a bit ridiculous.
It is pleasing if his smugly expected 'celebrity car price premium' transpired not to exist.
Would I pay more than normal for a Steve McQueen mustang? Yes.
Would I pay less than normal for a John Prescott Jaguar? No.
However, that is not the same as Chris Evans' ownership actually devaluing his cars to below their intrinsic worth, which is a bit ridiculous.
It is pleasing if his smugly expected 'celebrity car price premium' transpired not to exist.
Would I pay more than normal for a Steve McQueen mustang? Yes.
Would I pay less than normal for a John Prescott Jaguar? No.
ked though.Muzzer79 said:
I totally agree with you, and it is odd, however it's a fact.
Imagine if Rolf Harris had a 250 SWB kicking around in storage. Proceeds to his estate. Would it fetch the same as one from an 'unknown' owner?
In reality, it wouldn't.
Wow.Imagine if Rolf Harris had a 250 SWB kicking around in storage. Proceeds to his estate. Would it fetch the same as one from an 'unknown' owner?
In reality, it wouldn't.
Your world must be very odd where a convicted child molester ranks alongside a radio/TV presenter you don't like. Out of interest, is Chris Evans as bad a person as Rolf Harris, or do you consider Rolf Harris to be a bit of an annoyance like Chris Evans?
I also like the way you present your opinion as "fact" without anything to back it up - brilliant.
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