DAIMLER DOUBLE SIX VANDEN PLAS
Discussion
mph said:
mph said:
I'm thinking that an S1 XJ may be a worthwhile purchase as they're great cars and decent ones are thin on the ground now.
Not sure if I can live with the V12 fuel consumption though.
Obviously I now think I can - as I've bought one !Not sure if I can live with the V12 fuel consumption though.
It's a Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas. One owner, 29k miles , colour is caramel with beige leather.
Was all set to take my 'six' out at the weekend but the dreaded AED has started playing up...
P5BNij said:
That simply oozes class, great purchase. Hope it gives you no end of joy!
Was all set to take my 'six' out at the weekend but the dreaded AED has started playing up...
Thanks for that. It needs a bit of commissioning and a full exhaust system (which so far is proving elusive) car should be with me on Wednesday.Was all set to take my 'six' out at the weekend but the dreaded AED has started playing up...
Regarding your AED. Burlen services are supposedly producing an improved (reliable) version but every time I call them they say it's still on test.
May give them another call tomorrow.
Update. Just called and the new unit is still under test ! Earliest availability - early next year. They also don't do original type exchange units either.
Edited by mph on Monday 2nd November 17:19
Years ago I worked on Jag V12 engines.
Very few of them actually were running on all 12 cylinders but because they are such a smooth engine very few people realised it.
I learnt that to get them running on all 12 you need to replace all the small vacuum hoses on the engine and make sure they are all well sealed.
Very few of them actually were running on all 12 cylinders but because they are such a smooth engine very few people realised it.
I learnt that to get them running on all 12 you need to replace all the small vacuum hoses on the engine and make sure they are all well sealed.
Meonstoke said:
Hi MPH,
Nice car. Looks to be in great condition! Well done. Not many of these around anymore. Apart from the auto choke and exhaust what else needs fixing ?
The auto choke problem is on another car.Nice car. Looks to be in great condition! Well done. Not many of these around anymore. Apart from the auto choke and exhaust what else needs fixing ?
This one needs the headlining sorting out, it's fallen in which is a common fault. The tyres are perished, it's lost brake fluid from somewhere, probably the servo. The rear valance is slightly corroded where the exhaust passes through (another common fault)
It hasn't been used much in recent years and was last tested in 2013. Once the basics have been sorted I've no doubt there will be some teething troubles as I start to use it.
Overall though it's in excellent condition and will make a special car when sorted.
L
mph said:
The auto choke problem is on another car.
This one needs the headlining sorting out, it's fallen in which is a common fault. The tyres are perished, it's lost brake fluid from somewhere, probably the servo. The rear valance is slightly corroded where the exhaust passes through (another common fault)
It hasn't been used much in recent years and was last tested in 2013. Once the basics have been sorted I've no doubt there will be some teething troubles as I start to use it.
Overall though it's in excellent condition and will make a special car when sorted.
What a beautiful motor car and quite a find. It is a V12 yes SWB? If you find front down pioes with the flexibles do share a I need one. The rest of the system can be altered from a LWB series two I believe.This one needs the headlining sorting out, it's fallen in which is a common fault. The tyres are perished, it's lost brake fluid from somewhere, probably the servo. The rear valance is slightly corroded where the exhaust passes through (another common fault)
It hasn't been used much in recent years and was last tested in 2013. Once the basics have been sorted I've no doubt there will be some teething troubles as I start to use it.
Overall though it's in excellent condition and will make a special car when sorted.
eldar said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Tiny tyres, by today's standards, 205/70 x 15.
What?By the standards of the day, the tyres were state of the art. Dunlop worked with Jaguar to announce their new tyre as the new XJ6 was announced in 1968. State of the art, big, wide, beefy tyres for the new Jag.
Have you seen how narrow tyres were in the 1950s? And before that? Do you understand what the term "classic car" means?
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Tiny tyres, by today's standards, 205/70 x 15.
What?By the standards of the day, the tyres were state of the art. Dunlop worked with Jaguar to announce their new tyre as the new XJ6 was announced in 1968. State of the art, big, wide, beefy tyres for the new Jag.
Have you seen how narrow tyres were in the 1950s? And before that? Do you understand what the term "classic car" means?
Nobody's trying to pick a fight. Be nice.
Big Pants said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Tiny tyres, by today's standards, 205/70 x 15.
What?By the standards of the day, the tyres were state of the art. Dunlop worked with Jaguar to announce their new tyre as the new XJ6 was announced in 1968. State of the art, big, wide, beefy tyres for the new Jag.
Have you seen how narrow tyres were in the 1950s? And before that? Do you understand what the term "classic car" means?
Nobody's trying to pick a fight. Be nice.
Hamish is dead right about the tyres. Jaguar and Dunlop worked together to develop the SP Sport with its patented "Aquajet" tread; a brilliantly clever design that guaranteed the best wet grip of any tyre at that time by literally squirting water sideways from tiny tubes built in between the tread blocks.
I remember the first XJ6 arriving at our local dealer in Paisley.
I was collecting my mum from her office in my 3.8 E Type FHC, my daily driver then, (those really were the days!), and I stopped dead outside the showroom when I saw this car. My mum and I went into the showroom to talk to the salesman who I knew well. The first thing that hit you right in the face about the car was the tyres. Hamish's point is well made that in their day there was nothing like them: they were huge by comparison and were the first low profile tyres on the market. They were sized as ER70/VR15, not 205, but the actual width was a 205 equivalent.
The first time I drove one I couldn't believe the handling, but of course the first were all short wheel base. The VPs however are all long wheelbase, clearly to give more rear seat room for m'lord in the back!
VS, you have me kinda puzzled with your reference to flexy sections on your front pipes. The V12 doesn't have these, only the 6 cylinder cars. I am certain that a Series 2 V12 system will fit an S1 long wheelbase with only slight modification to the mountings, and is actually a better system as it has flange joints instead of sleeves giving you far better adjustment for alignment. The bonus is that the S2 systems are available from stock.
AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
Someone said to me the other day, I think it was number 2 son, you have so many stories from the past about Jaguars you should write a book, and after reading John Egan's it occurred to me that I have over 40 years of stories and should seriously think about doing that. Would any of you buy it, that is the question?
J
jith said:
Big Pants said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Hamish Finn said:
eldar said:
Tiny tyres, by today's standards, 205/70 x 15.
What?By the standards of the day, the tyres were state of the art. Dunlop worked with Jaguar to announce their new tyre as the new XJ6 was announced in 1968. State of the art, big, wide, beefy tyres for the new Jag.
Have you seen how narrow tyres were in the 1950s? And before that? Do you understand what the term "classic car" means?
Nobody's trying to pick a fight. Be nice.
Hamish is dead right about the tyres. Jaguar and Dunlop worked together to develop the SP Sport with its patented "Aquajet" tread; a brilliantly clever design that guaranteed the best wet grip of any tyre at that time by literally squirting water sideways from tiny tubes built in between the tread blocks.
I remember the first XJ6 arriving at our local dealer in Paisley.
I was collecting my mum from her office in my 3.8 E Type FHC, my daily driver then, (those really were the days!), and I stopped dead outside the showroom when I saw this car. My mum and I went into the showroom to talk to the salesman who I knew well. The first thing that hit you right in the face about the car was the tyres. Hamish's point is well made that in their day there was nothing like them: they were huge by comparison and were the first low profile tyres on the market. They were sized as ER70/VR15, not 205, but the actual width was a 205 equivalent.
The first time I drove one I couldn't believe the handling, but of course the first were all short wheel base. The VPs however are all long wheelbase, clearly to give more rear seat room for m'lord in the back!
VS, you have me kinda puzzled with your reference to flexy sections on your front pipes. The V12 doesn't have these, only the 6 cylinder cars. I am certain that a Series 2 V12 system will fit an S1 long wheelbase with only slight modification to the mountings, and is actually a better system as it has flange joints instead of sleeves giving you far better adjustment for alignment. The bonus is that the S2 systems are available from stock.
AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
Someone said to me the other day, I think it was number 2 son, you have so many stories from the past about Jaguars you should write a book, and after reading John Egan's it occurred to me that I have over 40 years of stories and should seriously think about doing that. Would any of you buy it, that is the question?
J
Up until the weekend the AED on my XJ6 was working fine, it started with no hesitation at all but at present it just won't play ball. I've got someone coming round to have a shuftie next week though, so fingers and toes crossed for a good result. You're right about the size of the tyres too - I was standing next to my car in the garage yesterday looking down at the front end and it struck me that from my viewing angle, the top of the front tyre was almost in line with the level of the bonnet... a neat visual trick that.
jith said:
I am certain that a Series 2 V12 system will fit an S1 long wheelbase with only slight modification to the mountings, and is actually a better system as it has flange joints instead of sleeves giving you far better adjustment for alignment. The bonus is that the S2 systems are available from stock.
AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
J
Any idea who stocks the S2 V12 systems, I'm still struggling to find one ? Barrett's list them but then when you go to the individual components they're not available.AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
J
mph said:
jith said:
I am certain that a Series 2 V12 system will fit an S1 long wheelbase with only slight modification to the mountings, and is actually a better system as it has flange joints instead of sleeves giving you far better adjustment for alignment. The bonus is that the S2 systems are available from stock.
AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
J
Any idea who stocks the S2 V12 systems, I'm still struggling to find one ? Barrett's list them but then when you go to the individual components they're not available.AED = Automatic Enrichment Device = crap!!
J
http://www.scparts.co.uk/sc_en/british-cars/jaguar...
J
P5BNij said:
Get that manuscript typed up asap Jith, I would certainly buy the book! Your tale of seeing your first XJ6 hit the spot nicely. As far as I recall the first one I saw belonged to a relative of a Jag loving neighbour who usually had two or three '60s saloons on his drive, Mk2s mostly with the odd 420 or MkX. This relative of his turned up in a S1 XJ in that lovely pale blue colour with a dark blue Webasto roof, it had so much presence it took my breath away, it looked huge compared to the feeble Austin A40 parked in front of it at the time.
Up until the weekend the AED on my XJ6 was working fine, it started with no hesitation at all but at present it just won't play ball. I've got someone coming round to have a shuftie next week though, so fingers and toes crossed for a good result. You're right about the size of the tyres too - I was standing next to my car in the garage yesterday looking down at the front end and it struck me that from my viewing angle, the top of the front tyre was almost in line with the level of the bonnet... a neat visual trick that.
The damn things generally fail to "rich", so cold start will be excellent, but general richness = borewash. I can't think of one auto-choke that was generally reliable over any reasonable mileage.Up until the weekend the AED on my XJ6 was working fine, it started with no hesitation at all but at present it just won't play ball. I've got someone coming round to have a shuftie next week though, so fingers and toes crossed for a good result. You're right about the size of the tyres too - I was standing next to my car in the garage yesterday looking down at the front end and it struck me that from my viewing angle, the top of the front tyre was almost in line with the level of the bonnet... a neat visual trick that.
70 profile tyre is ideal for comfort on poor British roads. Is a growing dislike of pram wheels a sign of approaching middle age?
jith said:
Someone said to me the other day, I think it was number 2 son, you have so many stories from the past about Jaguars you should write a book, and after reading John Egan's it occurred to me that I have over 40 years of stories and should seriously think about doing that. Would any of you buy it, that is the question?
J
Must be quite a few Jaguar stories.J
Me, aged 20, buying an S plate V12 XJS from the car auctions.
Buying a low mileage manual V12, and outrunning a Police Senator on the newly opened A34 dual carriageway.
Buying an XK150 3.4S FHC for £100. In 1990.
Borrowing a 4.0 Sovereign from Jaguar's press dept and having to call them to remind them that it was here. Nobody knew about it. How long could I have had it for?
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