Holland Coachcraft body of Scotland
Discussion
Choppy135 said:
High what do you want to know iv got alot of original designs and info as my great great grandfather owned the company
Fantastic! I'd completely forgotten about this thread! Do you have any technical drawings of chassis and coach work at all? I still think about this van regularly. Id love to have a crack at building a homage!
Hello Choppy
I think I have been writing to Richenda and her mother about this. I'm researching the man and the company. Any copies of designs drawings and photos would be useful.
I read mention of "Youma car, Nov 1932 and Youma meat van 1933" - any info on these?
Also the teardrop car of 1937.
What happened to Mr Holland and his business after 1939/40? Did he become an inventor?
I think I have been writing to Richenda and her mother about this. I'm researching the man and the company. Any copies of designs drawings and photos would be useful.
I read mention of "Youma car, Nov 1932 and Youma meat van 1933" - any info on these?
Also the teardrop car of 1937.
What happened to Mr Holland and his business after 1939/40? Did he become an inventor?
HOLLAND COACHCRAFT
Re the Holland coachcraft vehicles I did quite a lot of research with Mark Bailey who was writing a book on Holland coachcraft. We had much correspondence and the archives are in here in Scotland. I have pictures of the 1932 Ford Model Y streamlined van he built that advertised Youma bread and the icecream van for Nardinis in Largs and quite a lot of other material that I researched in 2003-7. Regretfully It seems Mark Bailey (Essex) died and I have no idea what happened to the book?. Holland was ahead of his time and I have some interest going in Greenock as he worked at his grandfather's works McIntyres in Duncan Street prior to Govan/Glasgow etc. It is hard work getting this guy recognised even with the Transport museum as they recognise him as a designer only. A Contact with the family would be appreciated as an exhibition on his life and work would amend the distorted history of streamlining being identified to just Europe and America. Ivan Precieux.
Re the Holland coachcraft vehicles I did quite a lot of research with Mark Bailey who was writing a book on Holland coachcraft. We had much correspondence and the archives are in here in Scotland. I have pictures of the 1932 Ford Model Y streamlined van he built that advertised Youma bread and the icecream van for Nardinis in Largs and quite a lot of other material that I researched in 2003-7. Regretfully It seems Mark Bailey (Essex) died and I have no idea what happened to the book?. Holland was ahead of his time and I have some interest going in Greenock as he worked at his grandfather's works McIntyres in Duncan Street prior to Govan/Glasgow etc. It is hard work getting this guy recognised even with the Transport museum as they recognise him as a designer only. A Contact with the family would be appreciated as an exhibition on his life and work would amend the distorted history of streamlining being identified to just Europe and America. Ivan Precieux.
Droidy said:
Hello Choppy
I think I have been writing to Richenda and her mother about this. I'm researching the man and the company. Any copies of designs drawings and photos would be useful.
I read mention of "Youma car, Nov 1932 and Youma meat van 1933" - any info on these?
Also the teardrop car of 1937.
What happened to Mr Holland and his business after 1939/40? Did he become an inventor?
There was a story in a tyneside paper in 2012 about Holland Coachcraft that described him as having a breakdown after the company was forced into liquidation because it was passed over for war work and therefore could not buy materials, then going into forestry; What happened after that is not mentioned. The information for the article is credited to Mark Bailey.I think I have been writing to Richenda and her mother about this. I'm researching the man and the company. Any copies of designs drawings and photos would be useful.
I read mention of "Youma car, Nov 1932 and Youma meat van 1933" - any info on these?
Also the teardrop car of 1937.
What happened to Mr Holland and his business after 1939/40? Did he become an inventor?
I do have detail on the Youma van built on the Short rad Model Y Ford 8hp car chassis. I did have permission when assisting Mark Bailey re the publicity photo and copy photos re the construction of the Youma Bread van and my research with him revealed much description of the vehicle. However I would prefer the Holland family to indicate that such detail can be printed, The vehicles that came under the Holland coachwork name came via many vehicle manufacturers including Ford. I also have the initial Holland designs of some of the vans. Such archive material is in several places even down to the weights amd measures etc of some of the vehicles.
I've been collecting info on Holland Coachcraft for some years, most of which I've now also found on this Forum (I'm new to PistonHeads) plus stuff I didn't know.
The North of England licensee for Holland Coachcraft designs was the coachbuilder S. H. Bond Ltd., of Leestone Road, Wythenshawe - the road still exists, just off the junction with the A560 and M56 (Junction 3A).
Sometime during 2008/9 I visited the building occupied by Holland Coachcraft on the Team Valley Trading Estate, Gateshead from 1936/7 until 1940. At the time of my visit it was the UK headquarters of Smith Electric Vehicles Ltd., who had been building electric milk floats since the 1920s but, by the time of my meeting, were developing Zero Emission (electric) versions of the Ford Transit Connect and London TX4 Taxicab together with an all-electric 7.5-ton truck, which housed electric drivetrain technology in a chassis by Avia Motors s.r.o. of Prague, Czech Republic. Smith Electric Vehicles ceased trading due to lack of funds early in 2017.
I'm hoping that further information will come to light about the Holland family and the company's organisation, particularly about the designs and other licensee coachbuilders. Might the family be persuaded to release more detail on the commercial aspects of Holland Coachcraft or maybe Mark Bailey's family would consider an approach. Its a story well deserving of a wider audience.
The North of England licensee for Holland Coachcraft designs was the coachbuilder S. H. Bond Ltd., of Leestone Road, Wythenshawe - the road still exists, just off the junction with the A560 and M56 (Junction 3A).
Sometime during 2008/9 I visited the building occupied by Holland Coachcraft on the Team Valley Trading Estate, Gateshead from 1936/7 until 1940. At the time of my visit it was the UK headquarters of Smith Electric Vehicles Ltd., who had been building electric milk floats since the 1920s but, by the time of my meeting, were developing Zero Emission (electric) versions of the Ford Transit Connect and London TX4 Taxicab together with an all-electric 7.5-ton truck, which housed electric drivetrain technology in a chassis by Avia Motors s.r.o. of Prague, Czech Republic. Smith Electric Vehicles ceased trading due to lack of funds early in 2017.
I'm hoping that further information will come to light about the Holland family and the company's organisation, particularly about the designs and other licensee coachbuilders. Might the family be persuaded to release more detail on the commercial aspects of Holland Coachcraft or maybe Mark Bailey's family would consider an approach. Its a story well deserving of a wider audience.
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