Rover P6, Jaguar XJ6... or something else?
Discussion
khd82 said:
P5BNij said:
Well played Sir, well played... looks like you've landed on the set of 'Hart To Hart'!
If the situation ever arises where I'd have somewhere to put it I'd certainly consider taking it off your hands, you know how much I admire your Coupe. Hope that awful vibration problem is now long gone... have you got any hair left mate..?
OP - apologies for continually wandering off topic but you know what it's like with old Jags and Rovers
If the situation ever arises where I'd have somewhere to put it I'd certainly consider taking it off your hands, you know how much I admire your Coupe. Hope that awful vibration problem is now long gone... have you got any hair left mate..?
OP - apologies for continually wandering off topic but you know what it's like with old Jags and Rovers
Tyre Tread said:
The house isn't as impressive as it looks. It's a project! Room one is just about done - 2 months after we moved in. The vibrations suddenly subsided. No idea what it was. There's still a trace of it but its barely noticeable. Can't believe I rebuilt the engine twice, had everything balanced and it still didn't solve it and then it just went. Bizarre!I have very little hair left bit not entirely the fault of the Rover. We did Italy in the TVR last year -- Was excellent!
Sorry again OP.
No need to apologise for going off-piste - I'm enjoying the relaxed atmosphere around here which in the main seems pretty constructive and not too aggressive!Sorry again OP.
P5BNij said:
Go on OP, you know you want to...
I'm finding that the more I use it, the more I enjoy it and it certainly seems to thrive on being used properly. I winced a bit when I saw the bill but am now very glad that I spent several quid on getting it back into the shape it deserves to be in, the suspension, cooling system, exhaust and ignition refresh has done it a power of good and has managed to put right a certain amount of neglect which to be fair to the previous owners probably wasn't intentional. Owner number four had it for twenty three years and kept it going very nicely indeed, but subsequently it seems to have sat around for quite some time until it was picked up at auction by the dealer I bought it from. He got it running again and put a new headling in to replace the sagging original, there are still some jobs to do on the interior but just sitting in it gives the impression that it's one hell of a car for the money and a great value classic in so many ways.
Do you still own this one and am I correct in thinking it is a manual car?
I'm finding that the more I use it, the more I enjoy it and it certainly seems to thrive on being used properly. I winced a bit when I saw the bill but am now very glad that I spent several quid on getting it back into the shape it deserves to be in, the suspension, cooling system, exhaust and ignition refresh has done it a power of good and has managed to put right a certain amount of neglect which to be fair to the previous owners probably wasn't intentional. Owner number four had it for twenty three years and kept it going very nicely indeed, but subsequently it seems to have sat around for quite some time until it was picked up at auction by the dealer I bought it from. He got it running again and put a new headling in to replace the sagging original, there are still some jobs to do on the interior but just sitting in it gives the impression that it's one hell of a car for the money and a great value classic in so many ways.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 12th October 20:46
Do you still own this one and am I correct in thinking it is a manual car?
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 12th October 20:55
nigeleyre said:
P5BNij said:
Go on OP, you know you want to...
I'm finding that the more I use it, the more I enjoy it and it certainly seems to thrive on being used properly. I winced a bit when I saw the bill but am now very glad that I spent several quid on getting it back into the shape it deserves to be in, the suspension, cooling system, exhaust and ignition refresh has done it a power of good and has managed to put right a certain amount of neglect which to be fair to the previous owners probably wasn't intentional. Owner number four had it for twenty three years and kept it going very nicely indeed, but subsequently it seems to have sat around for quite some time until it was picked up at auction by the dealer I bought it from. He got it running again and put a new headling in to replace the sagging original, there are still some jobs to do on the interior but just sitting in it gives the impression that it's one hell of a car for the money and a great value classic in so many ways.
Do you still own this one and am I correct in thinking it is a manual car?
I'm finding that the more I use it, the more I enjoy it and it certainly seems to thrive on being used properly. I winced a bit when I saw the bill but am now very glad that I spent several quid on getting it back into the shape it deserves to be in, the suspension, cooling system, exhaust and ignition refresh has done it a power of good and has managed to put right a certain amount of neglect which to be fair to the previous owners probably wasn't intentional. Owner number four had it for twenty three years and kept it going very nicely indeed, but subsequently it seems to have sat around for quite some time until it was picked up at auction by the dealer I bought it from. He got it running again and put a new headling in to replace the sagging original, there are still some jobs to do on the interior but just sitting in it gives the impression that it's one hell of a car for the money and a great value classic in so many ways.
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 12th October 20:46
Do you still own this one and am I correct in thinking it is a manual car?
Edited by P5BNij on Monday 12th October 20:55
There are a few resources in WA that are not on the well troden path.
If you want to go expensive, then take a look at Roadbend.
Wilf Chambers is Ozzy Park has a few things for sale normally (I managed to pick up a Mk 2 there )
The Jag club usually has a few off market sales.
Also, talk to Paul Blank, he has quite a lot of random metal on email.
There is a relatively strong Triumph scene here with mech support in Bayswater that may suit you, depending on your location.
Other than the Brits, there are heaps of Mustangs here with a lot of tech support, that may tick the boxes while fuel is still cheap!
PM me if you want contact details on the above and Good Luck!
If you want to go expensive, then take a look at Roadbend.
Wilf Chambers is Ozzy Park has a few things for sale normally (I managed to pick up a Mk 2 there )
The Jag club usually has a few off market sales.
Also, talk to Paul Blank, he has quite a lot of random metal on email.
There is a relatively strong Triumph scene here with mech support in Bayswater that may suit you, depending on your location.
Other than the Brits, there are heaps of Mustangs here with a lot of tech support, that may tick the boxes while fuel is still cheap!
PM me if you want contact details on the above and Good Luck!
nigeleyre said:
Pity, did you purchase it from a dealer in Cheshire just near the M6?
Yes I did, John something was his name, I think he'd picked it up an the local H&H auction, he got it running again and put a new headlining in it just before I bought it. I think if I'd kept it I'd have probably given it an engine rebuild by now. Jaguar World magazine did short article on it when I owned it, if memory serves it was in the March 2016 issue (I remember they managed to spell my name wrong!).I thought I recognized it. I looked at it but thought it felt rather tired to drive. Did you do much work to the suspension, drivetrain etc and what did you think of the drive? I'm looking for a manual car but never driven a manual apart from that one, I have driven one auto which drove as well as I would expect but other than that all the ones I've looked at have felt rather tired.
I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
nigeleyre said:
I thought I recognized it. I looked at it but thought it felt rather tired to drive. Did you do much work to the suspension, drivetrain etc and what did you think of the drive? I'm looking for a manual car but never driven a manual apart from that one, I have driven one auto which drove as well as I would expect but other than that all the ones I've looked at have felt rather tired.
I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
It definitely felt a bit lacking when I test drove it, the carbs seemed to be the biggest issue and I already had someone in mind to do any work that might be needed before going up to see it. I liked the fact that it was very solid compared to a lot of early '70s Jags and the the history (what there was of it) backed up the mileage. The third owner kept it for twenty three years and put a private reg' on it, when I bought it the old rear plate was underneath the 1973 number 'PSM 262M'.I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
Once I'd bought it and had it delivered I took it to my local Jag guru and spent about £3k on it, this included a full carb rebuild, new ignition (electronic and all new leads etc), new radiator and hoses, an oil and filter change, a complete new stainless steel exhaust system, new springs at the front and new bushes all round. This transformed the car right away and I loved every minute I spent behind the wheel. I also put a lot of time and effort into cleaning it up properly inside and out, I took the bumpers off and polished them thoroughly, and put a new set of period plates on which made it look much better overall. Wafting along in overdrive was great, I used it for work quite a bit and often took the long way home on night shifts. My long term plan was to get the engine rebuilt but it never happened, I was getting the itch to buy something else so put it up for sale. I still regret selling it now but you can't keep them all! The fact that it was such an early SWB one, and a 4.2 manual was what made it special to me at the time....
P5BNij said:
nigeleyre said:
I thought I recognized it. I looked at it but thought it felt rather tired to drive. Did you do much work to the suspension, drivetrain etc and what did you think of the drive? I'm looking for a manual car but never driven a manual apart from that one, I have driven one auto which drove as well as I would expect but other than that all the ones I've looked at have felt rather tired.
I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
It definitely felt a bit lacking when I test drove it, the carbs seemed to be the biggest issue and I already had someone in mind to do any work that might be needed before going up to see it. I liked the fact that it was very solid compared to a lot of early '70s Jags and the the history (what there was of it) backed up the mileage. The third owner kept it for twenty three years and put a private reg' on it, when I bought it the old rear plate was underneath the 1973 number 'PSM 262M'.I've never owned one before and other than trying a couple, only driven a new one back in 1974 (an auto) which was superb at that time, so any comments you have would be very helpful...
Once I'd bought it and had it delivered I took it to my local Jag guru and spent about £3k on it, this included a full carb rebuild, new ignition (electronic and all new leads etc), new radiator and hoses, an oil and filter change, a complete new stainless steel exhaust system, new springs at the front and new bushes all round. This transformed the car right away and I loved every minute I spent behind the wheel. I also put a lot of time and effort into cleaning it up properly inside and out, I took the bumpers off and polished them thoroughly, and put a new set of period plates on which made it look much better overall. Wafting along in overdrive was great, I used it for work quite a bit and often took the long way home on night shifts. My long term plan was to get the engine rebuilt but it never happened, I was getting the itch to buy something else so put it up for sale. I still regret selling it now but you can't keep them all! The fact that it was such an early SWB one, and a 4.2 manual was what made it special to me at the time....
its lovely 
I read somewhere that around ten percent of S2 XJs were manuals. As I outlined above, the work done to mine transformed it's behaviour overnight, I just wish I'd had the sense and the room to keep it. I can say without any doubt at all that it's the smoothest riding car I've ever driven or been in. The day I picked it up from the workshop, the guy who did the work drove me home in it (he was picking up another customer's car near my house), and sitting in the back as it wafted along was just sublime. The mostly original paint was blemished here and there but from ten feet away it looked fantastic.
I still look at them in the classifieds regularly and would love a two door XJC.....;)
I still look at them in the classifieds regularly and would love a two door XJC.....;)
P5BNij said:
Gorgeous! Before I bought my S2 I'd set my heart on having an S1 but couldn't find a decent one at the time.
Took quite some time to find this one - I had decided that only a silver S1 with chrome dials and the BW Model 12 gearbox would do - the reason why escapes me now! I was told that most early silver S1’s were repainted white by the factory due to reaction issues but I’ve seen a few over the years so I suspect this is a myth. I was lucky enough to purchase this from the original owner who was giving up driving at the age of 89 having purchased it when he was appointed Chief Executive of the Royal Dockyards and felt he needed a steed in keeping with his position. Oh and perhaps for the purposes of full disclosure I should add the next photo in the series - waiting for recovery after the battery failed..
Edited by js68 on Friday 18th September 13:56
P5BNij said:
I read somewhere that around ten percent of S2 XJs were manuals. As I outlined above, the work done to mine transformed it's behaviour overnight, I just wish I'd had the sense and the room to keep it. I can say without any doubt at all that it's the smoothest riding car I've ever driven or been in. The day I picked it up from the workshop, the guy who did the work drove me home in it (he was picking up another customer's car near my house), and sitting in the back as it wafted along was just sublime. The mostly original paint was blemished here and there but from ten feet away it looked fantastic.
I still look at them in the classifieds regularly and would love a two door XJC.....;)
Thanks for all the information, sounds like you did really good work to it. I thought new bushes might help it and good to know that front springs were the issue as well. Useful to know that this transformed the car. I'm looking at an auto at the moment that seems to be in fairly similar condition to how yours was when you got it. I love the look of the XJC too but not sure that I'd like the fact that it's not as quiet in the cabin due to the difficulty of sealing the frameless windows. I still look at them in the classifieds regularly and would love a two door XJC.....;)
I had thought about an XJC and making frames for the windows to make it as quiet as a saloon but think that's probably overkill and would likely devalue the XJC and I love the look of the saloon too.
My pleasure - it's amazing what a difference around £3k can make, it was still quite a large bill for me at the time but was well worth the outlay. The two guys who did all the work really knew their stuff and their workshop is also their storage space for their own cars, amongst which (at the time) were a beautiful burgundy Rover P5B Coupe, two BMW 3.0 CSis, a Mk2 Escort 2000RS, a Daimler Double Six XJC, a Jag V12 XKC and a S3 Daimler Sovereign with about 12k original miles.
I'm trying to steer myself away from looking at the old Jags and Rovers, but it's not easy!
Best of luck with your search, hope you find what you're looking for....
I'm trying to steer myself away from looking at the old Jags and Rovers, but it's not easy!
Best of luck with your search, hope you find what you're looking for....
Just spotted these two....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-Classic-Daimler-So...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Daimler-Double-Six-1974...
Edit - and another...!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-XJ-Jaguar-Serie...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-Classic-Daimler-So...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Daimler-Double-Six-1974...
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 18th September 20:25
Edit - and another...!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-XJ-Jaguar-Serie...
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 18th September 20:36
P5BNij said:
Just spotted these two....
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-Classic-Daimler-So...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Daimler-Double-Six-1974...
Edit - and another...!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-XJ-Jaguar-Serie...
Thanks you seem to be finding cars I'm missing! I'm really set on a Series 2 short wheelbase though... Out of interest who did the work on your car and are they still operating? Good to know that a £3k spend will transform the car if in sound condition to start with. Did you ever check the mpg? Would be interested to know how the manual box improves it over the old fashioned auto.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1978-Classic-Daimler-So...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Daimler-Double-Six-1974...
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 18th September 20:25
Edit - and another...!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-XJ-Jaguar-Serie...
Edited by P5BNij on Friday 18th September 20:36
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