Another mystery car

[MatthewBarnett]

Space frame before body fitted

[MatthewBarnett]

before hard top fitted


Its been a while so trying to remember. I bought the space frame of a Chap called Henry Tombs at Outibridge (he through body away as in poor state before I found it - a shame as could have done something with it). He had rescued from a Sheffield scrap yard. Pictures came in 1987 ish from someone who went to view car advertised I thought in the 70s but could be wrong (note the trousers) - think either Totley or Dore Sheffield (picture through garage window shows distinctive turrets - I have not tracked down location) - Alco builders merchants was at Heeley Sheffield as I bought some sand there once.

Edited by MatthewBarnett on Sunday 13th December 20:37

[threespires]

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MatthewBarnett said:

before hard top fitted

Great pix, thanks..

[uk66fastback]

Qcarchoo said:

Those '70's' photos were taken in the eighties. The bag of sand in the engine bay picture is from Selco builders' merchants which started using the name in 1982.

Superb.

[Astacus]

uk66fastback said:

Qcarchoo said:

Those '70's' photos were taken in the eighties. The bag of sand in the engine bay picture is from Selco builders' merchants which started using the name in 1982.

Superb.

Only on Pistonheads!!!!

[MatthewBarnett]

trousers look a bit flaired

[marshalla]

threespires said:

La Dawri with a custom roof ?

[uk66fastback]

Why bother though? Just to have gullwing doors? Seems a massive amount of work to change an already existing shell.

[deltashad]

Novice effort

[threespires]

deltashad said:

Novice effort

You did well there, but I'd imagine that the door came straight down & not include the forward part, it would be too heavy

Edited by threespires on Monday 14th December 16:12

[Roy C]

threespires said:

deltashad said:

Novice effort

You did well there, but I'd imagine that the door came straight down & not include the forward part, it would be too heavy

In the original photograph, it looks like it's a one piece front end, which ends very close to the bottom of the windscreen.
The vertical shut line isn't the leading edge of the door, but the trailing edge of the bonnet.
Perhaps the engine is very close to the scuttle, which is why the front of the bonnet is so low.

[threespires]

deltashad said:

Novice effort

Things that confuse me.

1] The front wheel arch doesn't seem to allow much of a steering lock.
2] The rear wheel-well encroaches into the passenger compartment. How did they get seats into it?
3] The bonnet is very low, which end is the engine?

[dryden]

Well done, we can finally see it.
The scuttle line does seem to be carried on down the wing line in the original picture, suggesting a one piece front. The bonnet line does not seem lower than that of a Midget, and the rear wheelarches are in the same place (as a midget). even the wipers seem the same. The wheelbase seems right for a Midget base. I still suggest it may be Williams and Pritchard.

[uk66fastback]

Roy C said:

threespires said:

deltashad said:

Novice effort

You did well there, but I'd imagine that the door came straight down & not include the forward part, it would be too heavy

In the original photograph, it looks like it's a one piece front end, which ends very close to the bottom of the windscreen.
The vertical shut line isn't the leading edge of the door, but the trailing edge of the bonnet.
Perhaps the engine is very close to the scuttle, which is why the front of the bonnet is so low.

Great effort on the PShop. Why make a big kink in the door though, it'd come straight down as said, surely the moulds would be easier that way.

[sim16v]

deltashad said:

Novice effort

Still a great effort though!

Better than I could do, mine would be a mess....

Does have some similarities to the Midget as well.

[MatthewBarnett]

MatthewBarnett said:

trousers look a bit flaired

Now I can see the doors on the blue car they are a lot different to the ones on my mystery car. Supporting them looks difficult as they must weigh a reasonable amount.

[uk66fastback]

I think people are saying that the doors wouldn't be like that and that the vertical edge of the panel in the original pic is the trailing edge of a one piece forward-hinging bonnet and there would be another panel between the door and the bonnet ...

... And the forward edge of the door would more than likely follow the edge of its front window down vertically ...

If that makes sense!

Edit: like the white Midget ...

[Keep it stiff]

deltashad said:

Novice effort

Excellent, perhaps this will rekindle the grey matter.

[marshalla]

deltashad said:

Novice effort

Not it - but some similarities around the door and rear pillar vents. Clues to the builder perhaps ?

[Allan L]

uk66fastback said:

I think people are saying that the doors wouldn't be like that and that the vertical edge of the panel in the original pic is the trailing edge of a one piece forward-hinging bonnet and there would be another panel between the door and the bonnet ...

... And the forward edge of the door would more than likely follow the edge of its front window down vertically ...

Yes, quite so, and if it is a gullwing door having that forward edge well forward of the windscreen would be impossible.
Similarly, if it's a front-hinged door with that forward edge, the way the door wraps into the roof is impossible.