FAKE D-TYPE XKD604 WITHDRAWN FROM AUCTION

FAKE D-TYPE XKD604 WITHDRAWN FROM AUCTION

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a8hex

5,829 posts

223 months

Sunday 3rd January 2016
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Sorry I forgot to say that when I last saw 701 she was decidedly shiny, seemed to have lost all signs of being the original prototype and New York show car and was waiting shipping out to her new owner in the US.

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Monday 4th January 2016
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williamp said:


This image from 1956 shows XKD604 being built with, behind it XKD604 and xkd604. XKD604 has just been finished and is no longer in shot. So there Tony jester


Seriously Tony, this shot is fascinating. Was the D type really built in a production line? And the louvres followed by no fin, then fin, fin so I imagine the actual cars can be identified. How long was this image taken before the fire?

Or are these XKSS??

So many questions...
Back from the dead having been not too well for a week or so, but that would be a 1955 photo of the production of short nose D-types. You are mistaking the fin with the head rest, which is riveted on afterwards and the fin the riveted to the head rest section as an afterthought. Cars with a fin were works racers, (or Ecurie Ecosse) but all D-types had the head rest. So yes it is before the fire in 1957 which curtailed production of the XKSS. Appendix changes for Le Mans in 1956 insisted on a full-width screen, so that rules them out but possible if they were all client cars and ordered as such with another luxury option of two doors , but only five cars were made in 1954 anyway. In 1955 chassis numbers started with 501 and ended with 575 to give you a clue, and only six cars built in 1956, all long nose, of which 602 and 604 no longer exist - until now of course wink

I hope I've got this right; my brain is rather fuzzy at the moment.

lowdrag

12,879 posts

213 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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To return to the subject, the car was withdrawn from the auction and protracted correspondence has taken place. It is now admitted that only the rear chassis is from XKD 604 and that the car stands comparison with another well-known D-type which, after solicitors had had a long discussion, was auctioned as a "wonderful evocation" of a D-type. The car is for sale at RM by private treaty, but I am assured that the car will now be faithfully represented and that it is not, repeat, not, the original XKD 604.

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th January 2016
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That has more provenance than some cars which are still considered to have a lily-white history... frown

sea type

1 posts

98 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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Like a number of other D-types that exist today, XKD 604 was reconstructed, in this case around the original rear 'works' frame, still showing scars from the accident at Silverstone, an original front chassis frame and other genuine & 'works' D-type parts. A great deal of research has been done recently on this car in a search for the truth. In an effort to evaluate the car, Jaguar D-Type specialists Terry Larson and Chris Keith Lucas have conducted a detailed inspection of the car with help from Gary Pearson and Norman Dewis who have been most helpful. The result of this research has been extensive & a group effort.

By definition, the car is a reconstruction (See definitions by Denis Jenkinson on the back cover of the C Type, D Type & LWE Register). Unfortunately, there have been false statements posted on the internet on this car. Those interested in the truth should review the report.

Full report posted 1-26-16 on: http://www.coventryracers.com/cars/detail/?car=XKD...




Edited by sea type on Sunday 7th February 05:13

DonkeyApple

55,178 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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It does read like the only real issue is that Tester's name is associated with the car.

williamp

19,248 posts

273 months

Saturday 6th February 2016
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I think this thread is now going to go around in circles.... (a bit like one of the inner tubes from xkd604 (which, upon analysis had air from silverstone AND edinburgh in it. But none from France, thus proving...something)