Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

[TonyRPH]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

..and mine!

That same scene has a gazillion more cars parked in the background these days though

That's for sure.

It's be difficult to find a scene like that these days, even when people have gone to work - there are still cars everywhere in my street.

[iSore]

P5BNij said:

Don't know where it was found but it had been there since 1980 apparently, in the dry from then until 2002 then left outside with a tarp over it. Only other info is that it was originally almond green with a white roof but was repainted orange with a black roof then all over black in the '70s, and the winning bid for it was £12,600. Sounds a lot I know, but it's another one saved - once they're gone they're gone. I dare say this example is still in its original shell too, the vast majority of those you see at shows have been reshelled. Funny how everyone thinks the Mk1 S is the rarest of the lot though, they actually built about 14,000 all told across all three engine sizes between 1963 and 67, but the 'less desirable' Mk2 S only managed 6,329 between 1967 and 70.

I recognise that - if it's the one I'm thinking of it was in Kenton Mandeville in Somerset. My Dad and I went to look at one just like that in 1981 for £500. We turned it down because it didn't have the correct S engine but a 1300GT unit with the solid wall block.

[CAPP0]

DickyC said:

Snip for competent handyman.

As well as the aforementioned mods, seems strange that someone has gone to the trouble of putting out onto (purpose-made?) stands to start the work, but then stripped it and walked away.

[sim16v]

P5BNij said:

I'm not surprised at any of that, cosmetically the early Supers were pretty much the same as the Cooper and Cooper S with the same brightwork and two tone interiors etc. It would be handy if the new Heritage Mk1 shell was up to the mark but sadly it's a bit of a compromise in many respects.

As pleased as I am with my S I still hanker after a genuine Radford or Minisprint, but the prices have gone through the roof now. Might just as well carry on dreaming about '60s and '70s Italian exotica...!

A mate found this late last year.

Has a lot of Radford features, and signs of some missing Radford bits, but finding any history is difficult!

[AMG Merc]

Interesting roof there. That design wasn't available back then was it?

[sim16v]

I've just had a look for other photos, and I've got my wires crossed.

We think it is actually a Wood and Pickett car, as the roof was available from them back in the '60's.

[uk66fastback]

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Adding nothing to the debate...but just a nostalgic excuse. I learned to drive in this:

What's the address so we can do a google view for a comparison of how many cars are about in that street today?

[sim16v]

Back on topic, I don't think I've posted this before ...

[hidetheelephants]

Pfft, everybody has ropey Citroen-era Masteratis rotting away in their vicinity.

[Jimmy Recard]

I reckon that Merak will be incredibly bad throughout the structure

[Crosswise]

sim16v said:

A mate found this late last year.

Has a lot of Radford features, and signs of some missing Radford bits, but finding any history is difficult!

That's an interesting combination of features, Mk II bonnet and grille, bumpers with corner bars, only fitted to MK I Super Deluxe or Cooper, Mk II or very late Mk I doors with the later handles and no chrome window surround indicating it's a basic model. Mk II rear lights, Mk I piano hinge rear windows, Cooper 'S' right hand tank and a Cooper colour scheme. I'm going to guess it's a 64-66 Mk I modified to look like a MK II, but really I'm not sure, interesting sunroof though!

Edited by Crosswise on Monday 2nd January 05:41

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

uk66fastback said:

2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:

Adding nothing to the debate...but just a nostalgic excuse. I learned to drive in this:

What's the address so we can do a google view for a comparison of how many cars are about in that street today?

I did that, and that particular day the traffic was sparse! (It's usually rammed)

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Doggett+Rd,+Ca...

[P5BNij]

Crosswise said:

sim16v said:

A mate found this late last year.

Has a lot of Radford features, and signs of some missing Radford bits, but finding any history is difficult!

That's an interesting combination of features, Mk II bonnet and grille, bumpers with corner bars, only fitted to MK I Super Deluxe or Cooper, Mk II or very late Mk I doors with the later handles and no chrome window surround indicating it's a basic model. Mk II rear lights, Mk I piano hinge rear windows, Cooper 'S' right hand tank and a Cooper colour scheme. I'm going to guess it's a 64-66 Mk I modified to look like a MK II, but really I'm not sure, interesting sunroof though!

Edited by Crosswise on Monday 2nd January 05:41

Looks like a genuine Mk2 to me, check the width of the rear window, although only two inches wider than the Mk1 you can see the difference. Early Mk2s had Mk1 style piano hinged rear quarter windows, I think the change over point was sometime in '68. Presence of the right hand tank doesn't necessarily mean it's an S, if it is an S it should also have the diagonal bracing strut in the grille aperture and a horizontal oil cooler visible which I can't see. As for the corner bars, some owners fitted these to Mk2s and the lack of stainless steel door trim means the doors could have been replaced at some point. Could be a 998 Cooper rather than an S.

Would love to see some more photos of this one, looks like an excellent project!

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:43

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:45

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Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:56

[P5BNij]

Apologies for the multiple edits in the above post, my PC is playing silly beggars again.... just twigged the lack of oil cooler might be due to the lack of engine!

If the bonnet badge was present in the photo identifying it would be a doddle

[Crosswise]

P5BNij said:

Looks like a genuine Mk2 to me, check the width of the rear window, although only two inches wider than the Mk1 you can see the difference. Early Mk2s had Mk1 style piano hinged rear quarter windows, I think the change over point was sometime in '68.

Would love to see some more photos of this one, looks like an excellent project!

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:43

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:45

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 10:48

August 67 for the windows, so very late Mk I. Also, I was wrong on the door handles, Jan 66. You're probably right that it's a Mk II as it would mean it's just the trim that's been changed rather than having quite a few body mods done. It would be great to see a few more pictures, especially of the interior.

[P5BNij]

Yes, we need some interior shots and a view of the rear to be sure. Be interesting to see which speedo is fitted too. If it's an early Mk2 the commission number tag should be fitted to the off side inner wing, if it's a later one the tag should be on the slam panel. The Mk2 Cooper I sold to a mate in 2011 had a piano hinged rear window on one side and a proper Mk2 one on the other...!

The mix of Mk1 and 2 features on these cars is quite common, someone I know has a Mk1 1071 S that's been reshelled into a Mk2 shell but has had the Mk1 lights grafted back on, it looks slightly odd at the back with the smaller light clusters but the wider rear window.

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 11:14

Edited by P5BNij on Monday 2nd January 11:17

[sim16v]

I have a few more photos but will check with my mate to see if he's ok with me posting them.

Back to the thread, Sport Evo



And a 964 I tried to buy on numerous occasions without any luck...

[Humper]

sim16v said:

Back on topic, I don't think I've posted this before ...

That's a sorry sight, loved those

[JZZ30]

First spotted this about 14 years ago. No idea how long it has been there.

[tapkaJohnD]

No engine, Right chassis rail rusted through, something horrible done to the bonnet and the rear tub more holes than a target.
That's one Spitfire that will never roll again.

John

Edited by tapkaJohnD on Monday 2nd January 15:32