Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

Classics left to die/rotting pics - Vol 2

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MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

138 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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nicanary said:
If that's a genuine Crayford Corsair convertible, it doesn't say much for their engineering when they cut the roof off!
Sure I read Crayford were known to fill the sills of their convertibles with concrete to improve rigidity.

Edited by MarshPhantom on Tuesday 2nd August 20:40

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2016
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The one pictured has 4 doors, Crayfords were 2 door cars.

Someone else probably cut off the roof for their rusty project.

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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More French humdrumness.



Let's not debate it's classic status....please.

ToneyCaroney

1,039 posts

185 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Storer said:
Yertis said:
Storer said:
Some cars don't deserve saving and that Citroen is one of them.

They were crap when new and only wine fuelled eyes would see them as worth saving...
Well that's your opinion – I happen to think it's pretty cool, certainly a lot cooler that countless Stags MGBs TRs and whatever, the usual 'classic' fodder.


I didn't even know they'd made a GTi 4x4.
This forum is called Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes.

The Citroen BX does not fit in either of those descriptions and neither do Toyota Starlet's, Austin Allegro's, Nissan Micra's etc.

A Classic is usually one that was desirable/aspirational when new. A Hero would have been fast/great handling/new technology/you get the idea when new.

None of the above were any of those things. They were steel waiting to be recycled into something worthwhile.

Seems the chaps from Classic and Sportscar might have been looking at this thread. Halfway down....

http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/classic-ca...


austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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ToneyCaroney said:
Storer said:
Yertis said:
Storer said:
Some cars don't deserve saving and that Citroen is one of them.

They were crap when new and only wine fuelled eyes would see them as worth saving...
Well that's your opinion – I happen to think it's pretty cool, certainly a lot cooler that countless Stags MGBs TRs and whatever, the usual 'classic' fodder.


I didn't even know they'd made a GTi 4x4.
This forum is called Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes.

The Citroen BX does not fit in either of those descriptions and neither do Toyota Starlet's, Austin Allegro's, Nissan Micra's etc.

A Classic is usually one that was desirable/aspirational when new. A Hero would have been fast/great handling/new technology/you get the idea when new.

None of the above were any of those things. They were steel waiting to be recycled into something worthwhile.

Seems the chaps from Classic and Sportscar might have been looking at this thread. Halfway down....

http://www.classicandsportscar.com/news/classic-ca...
One of the C&SC writers is heavily into Citroens so not really surprising.

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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austin said:
One of the C&SC writers is heavily into Citroens so not really surprising.
They are? Who's that then?

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
//j17 said:
lesstatt said:
I once slated the BX on here as I had one once and thought it was a st car, quickly sold it on. I got flamed by several for daring to say it was st. Well it's still a st car...
Nothing wrong with thinking it's a st car or even being right about it. That doesn't mean it's not a classic though - in some ways it's actually a pre-requisite!

Most cars we call classics these days were/were called st in their day.
Too true! hehe
I'd like someone to articulate exactly how the BX was a st car, but that's probably for another thread. hehe

lesstatt

4,318 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Kitchski said:
The Crack Fox said:
//j17 said:
lesstatt said:
I once slated the BX on here as I had one once and thought it was a st car, quickly sold it on. I got flamed by several for daring to say it was st. Well it's still a st car...
Nothing wrong with thinking it's a st car or even being right about it. That doesn't mean it's not a classic though - in some ways it's actually a pre-requisite!

Most cars we call classics these days were/were called st in their day.
Too true! hehe
I'd like someone to articulate exactly how the BX was a st car, but that's probably for another thread. hehe
But of course, I had an "a" reg White BX, this was almost gifted so I said thanks very much. It broke down 3 times, central locking lacked up, doors were rusty on the bottom, the trim was very worn at 60,000 miles, the suspension spheres packed up, it cost me a fortune in 6 months. I quickly got rid of it. Therefore I think it's a st car, burn them all, pieces of fking wking junk

sim16v

2,177 posts

202 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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2slo said:
Old Cadillac by Mark Corpe, on Flickr

In the back of a lock up garage in Gateshead. I think it's a Cadillac Sedan Deville. The number plate suggests its from about 1983. Looks like its been in there a while.
Finally caught up with the owner of this.

It's actually a '74 Chevrolet Caprice Classic Convertible!

And it is huge!




The owner has some great stories about it and it would actually be for sale, but only if the price was right!

It is complete and has the proper wheels and trims in the lockup, but how do you put a value on that?


It also has movie history, anyone remember the film Stormy Monday?

It was used in that!



Fun Bus

17,911 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Fun Bus said:
BeastieBoy73 said:
Not intentionally antigonising folk but here's another pic of the BX.

I popped round to see if the owners had any plans to sell the car on behalf of a fellow PH'er. They weren't in...

Can has a factory sunroof and cloth interior (not sure why but I'd expected leather). Their was also a spare bonnet on the back seat. At a glance, the top side of the car looks to be in great shape. As has been suggested on previous pages, it's likely underneath that trouble lurks...

Thanks. Appreciate you taking the time to do that.

I think I might be out though. The MOT history of corrosion and wiring problems scare me off.
BB73, have you tried calling again? I'm willing to try if you haven't.

finlo

3,763 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
The one pictured has 4 doors, Crayfords were 2 door cars.

Someone else probably cut off the roof for their rusty project.
Is that not some form of hood on the back panel?

GOG440

9,247 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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DickyC said:
Iva Barchetta said:
A MK 3 Zodiac estate amongst those new pics.....rare.
Built for Ford by Abbotts of Farnham. Abbotts were run at the time by Gordon Sutherland, son of shipping magnate Sir Arthur Sutherland. Gordon Sutherland co-owned Aston Martin with Bert Bertelli, bought Bertelli out before the Second War and finally sold AM to David Brown just after the war. This is a clumsy précis of what happened, I think it was Sir Arthur's money but you get the picture.
I an just proud of myself for recognising a farnham estate

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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finlo said:
Is that not some form of hood on the back panel?
If it is a hood,looks very Heath Robinson.

GOG440

9,247 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
finlo said:
Is that not some form of hood on the back panel?
If it is a hood,looks very Heath Robinson.
If you look at it on a big screen it just looks like some white box section dumped there

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

164 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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I'm on a phone so can't see it well......nerd

uk66fastback

16,570 posts

272 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Iva Barchetta said:
Back on topic,at last.

A MK 3 Zodiac estate amongst those new pics.....rare.
Two in fact ...

cahami

1,248 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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That corsair has no A pillars or screen top rail dont think it was ever a convertible. Proper undisturbed graveyard though
I would love to stumble across a place like that reminds me of real breakers yards back in the day .

Edited by cahami on Wednesday 3rd August 22:44

cahami

1,248 posts

207 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Just noticed the engine swap in the consul 375/zephyr/zodiac picture love it.

austin

1,284 posts

204 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Kitchski said:
austin said:
One of the C&SC writers is heavily into Citroens so not really surprising.
They are? Who's that then?
David Evans. He's just rebuilt his GSA.

DickyC

49,795 posts

199 months

Thursday 4th August 2016
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cahami said:
Just noticed the engine swap in the consul 375/zephyr/zodiac picture love it.
The fear of more petrol rationing was never far away.