Black numberplates urban myth - the law has changed
Discussion
TooMany2cvs said:
GC8 said:
Different rules for LT.
Same rules. They just didn't worry about them.I had always assumed that it was a special dispensation for LT as their RM registered numbers (typically RLT540 for example) matched the serial number of the vehicles. It transpires that other carriers used them too.
uk66fastback said:
eccles said:
The timing of all this legislation does make me chuckle a bit.
I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
Alloy plate with the plastic digits? They look absolutely period correct . Care to share who supplied them?I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
When I've scanned it in I'll post a small pic of my dad's 504 - L reg with the same type of plates, where'a my grandad's504 (K reg) had the acrylic inline plates I posted earlier.
Edited by uk66fastback on Sunday 10th January 13:38
I used these chaps, took about a week to arrive.....
http://www.classicplatesonline.co.uk/plates.asp?ut...
eccles said:
uk66fastback said:
eccles said:
The timing of all this legislation does make me chuckle a bit.
I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
Alloy plate with the plastic digits? They look absolutely period correct . Care to share who supplied them?I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
When I've scanned it in I'll post a small pic of my dad's 504 - L reg with the same type of plates, where'a my grandad's504 (K reg) had the acrylic inline plates I posted earlier.
Edited by uk66fastback on Sunday 10th January 13:38
I used these chaps, took about a week to arrive.....
http://www.classicplatesonline.co.uk/plates.asp?ut...
Tippers also do the raised digit / reflective style and can refurbish originals too... http://www.tippersvintageplates.co.uk/
There is another mob who can supply them (based in Brum, called 'The Number Plate Centre' I think), they do the rounds at various car shows, it's worth keeping an eye out for them.
TooMany2cvs said:
But, seriously, what do you want? DVLA to write to you personally, as keeper of a 1973/4-built historic vehicle, to tell you that you can now put historically anachronistic plates on if you so desire?
I don't disagree - there's only so much they can do, especially as the change seems to have come in unintentionally. They could mention it on the road tax renewal that they send out, if it goes to a vehicle that is eligible, but I'm not sure I think they should.P5BNij said:
eccles said:
uk66fastback said:
eccles said:
The timing of all this legislation does make me chuckle a bit.
I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
Alloy plate with the plastic digits? They look absolutely period correct . Care to share who supplied them?I've just gone to great expense to get proper alloy with plastic numbers plates for my '75 Peugeot as when I bought it the car came with illegal (and bloody ugly!) black and silver pressed plates, and now it turns out they may actually legal on the car!
Now I just have to work out how to get free car tax!
When I've scanned it in I'll post a small pic of my dad's 504 - L reg with the same type of plates, where'a my grandad's504 (K reg) had the acrylic inline plates I posted earlier.
Edited by uk66fastback on Sunday 10th January 13:38
I used these chaps, took about a week to arrive.....
http://www.classicplatesonline.co.uk/plates.asp?ut...
Tippers also do the raised digit / reflective style and can refurbish originals too... http://www.tippersvintageplates.co.uk/
There is another mob who can supply them (based in Brum, called 'The Number Plate Centre' I think), they do the rounds at various car shows, it's worth keeping an eye out for them.
Breadvan72 said:
Stuff about the FBHVC...crying wolf...wilful/accidental misinterpretation etc....pretty much everything.
I could not agree more. I wouldn't mind so much if there was occasionally an element of truth to uncover (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance and all that) but they seem to be wrong about everything, all the time. One day there will be a wolf and no one will be listening 
While the FHBVC are useful, I take anything they say with a pinch of salt and see what others have said.
In 2012, they completely missed an aspect of the changes due to the 3rd EU driving licence directive. The first they knew about it was my email! I personally got the ball rolling and was instrumental (along with the others I'd alerted) in getting the UK to adopt the derogation on the driving of trikes.
Of course they claimed it was their work that got the concessions, but that is just a very annoying lie really. The full story is much too complicated to post here but that's the basics of it.
In 2012, they completely missed an aspect of the changes due to the 3rd EU driving licence directive. The first they knew about it was my email! I personally got the ball rolling and was instrumental (along with the others I'd alerted) in getting the UK to adopt the derogation on the driving of trikes.
Of course they claimed it was their work that got the concessions, but that is just a very annoying lie really. The full story is much too complicated to post here but that's the basics of it.
I tried posting this last week but photobucket was playing up, it seems to be working now hence the thread bump - this is a genuine BL ad from late '73, note the then new black and white M reg' plate. Now BL and BMC weren't exactly shy of doctoring photos in their ads and brochures in those days but this one looks kosher to me, it's not a particularly good scan, but the plate looks like a proper raised digit jobbie in the original photo...
I'd have to agree with the notion that putting these plates on a '73 Mini today would be a bit naff!
I'd have to agree with the notion that putting these plates on a '73 Mini today would be a bit naff!
P5BNij said:
No pic showing there, toomanycv2s....!
Ah. Odd, it's showing for me.Anyway... It's a 1275GT publicity pic, same angle as the previous one, same colour car, same plate... same photo. Except the plate is L suffix, not M...
Basically, BL edited the plate rather than take a new pic.
Try this one...
Look closely at the M-reg pic, and the characters on the plate are VERY white.
RobinOakapple said:
You need to download the pic onto your own computer, then upload it using the facility built into the reply window, where it says 'upload an image (beta).
No, I don't. I clearly just need to find it hosted by a site that aren't t
ts about people linking to their image without having visited their page first.If that second image isn't playing, then it's here -> http://minis.freeservers.com/Mini%20Times.htm#The 70’s
BL regularly photoshopped - or whatever the 70s analogue equivalent was - the year letter on publicity photos of their cars as a cheaper alternative to getting the camera out.
I have various catalogues for the Triumph 2.5pi MK2 and it is clear the photo of an 'H' reg car in the first brochure reappears in a later brochure as an 'L' reg.
I have various catalogues for the Triumph 2.5pi MK2 and it is clear the photo of an 'H' reg car in the first brochure reappears in a later brochure as an 'L' reg.
OLDBENZ said:
BL regularly photoshopped - or whatever the 70s analogue equivalent was - the year letter on publicity photos of their cars as a cheaper alternative to getting the camera out.
I have various catalogues for the Triumph 2.5pi MK2 and it is clear the photo of an 'H' reg car in the first brochure reappears in a later brochure as an 'L' reg.
Not just them - one of Vauxhall's adverts for the Firenza showed an M-plated car with an "N" placed over it.I have various catalogues for the Triumph 2.5pi MK2 and it is clear the photo of an 'H' reg car in the first brochure reappears in a later brochure as an 'L' reg.
uk66fastback said:
The whole plate looks doctored, the letters are not lining up right anyway. If you drew a line across from the top of the U to the top of the M (or L) on the left it would be halfway up the sidelight and on the right it would be the same height as the sidelight ...
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