Another mystery car...

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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brrapp said:
forsure said:
glenrobbo said:
DavidY said:
Jensen CV8 ??
My initial thought, but the rear end seems different...
My first thought too; but the Jensen is a two-door and its bodywork is glass-fibre.

Magnette ZA I think, though the very rear of the rear wing looks wrong.
The mystery car could easily be a two door, the rear panel is ripped along the line of what looks like a door edge but could just have been chance that it `tore that way. The torn bit looks like it could be fibreglass
Where's the rear body side panel gone to?
How come glassfibre's bent and folded rather than torn and splintered?
Where's all the front wing gone from between arch and A-pillar?
Where's the wheelarch eyebrow gone from the front wing?
Where's the wheelarch eyebrow/indicator bulge gone from along the length of the rear wing?

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
brrapp said:
forsure said:
glenrobbo said:
DavidY said:
Jensen CV8 ??
My initial thought, but the rear end seems different...
My first thought too; but the Jensen is a two-door and its bodywork is glass-fibre.

Magnette ZA I think, though the very rear of the rear wing looks wrong.
The mystery car could easily be a two door, the rear panel is ripped along the line of what looks like a door edge but could just have been chance that it `tore that way. The torn bit looks like it could be fibreglass
Where's the rear body side panel gone to?
How come glassfibre's bent and folded rather than torn and splintered?
Where's all the front wing gone from between arch and A-pillar?
Where's the wheelarch eyebrow gone from the front wing?
Where's the wheelarch eyebrow/indicator bulge gone from along the length of the rear wing?
You could have added 'where have the doors gone' and 'where is all the broken glass' and 'where have the seats gone'.
It doesn't look like it was dropped there from a great height (not a big enough dint in the grass) so it has been moved to that spot without a few of the bits that fell off. Fibre glass does bend as well as tear/splinter, and there does seem to be something like that showing in a few places.
I'm not sure I'm right, but you haven't convinced me that you are yet.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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brrapp said:
You could have added 'where have the doors gone' and 'where is all the broken glass' and 'where have the seats gone'.
It doesn't look like it was dropped there from a great height (not a big enough dint in the grass) so it has been moved to that spot without a few of the bits that fell off.
Sure that's probably what happened - and, tbh, it was probably dropped onto a more solid surface than grass. It may well not even have finished up right way up.

But there's massive differences in what we can definitely see. Most marked of those are the arch eyebrows. It might or might not be a Magnette - the rear wing's the major "not" point. But it'd most definitely not a CV8. There's not even much of a passing resemblance.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Over on Autopuzzles another photo has been posted, which gives more clues. It is described in a period caption as a Wolseley, and I immediately thought of the 4/44 but the number plate indentation on the rear bumper had me confused.

It is of course, as originally claimed, a Magnette. My humble opinion was worthless........


ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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I've really enjoyed this thread but not been able to add much to the task of identification.

However I am puzzled by the look of "conquest" of the men posing on the wreck. It's the sort of look that big game hunters had when posing in front of their kill. Suggests that it must have been a successful controlled experiment of some description.

Riley Blue

20,958 posts

226 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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It was dropped from a helicopter flying at 300 feet - I don't know if that counts.

Escort3500

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11,910 posts

145 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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nicanary said:
Over on Autopuzzles another photo has been posted, which gives more clues. It is described in a period caption as a Wolseley, and I immediately thought of the 4/44 but the number plate indentation on the rear bumper had me confused.

It is of course, as originally claimed, a Magnette. My humble opinion was worthless........

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Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Did we ever fathom out the car outside the hotel?

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Blakewater said:
Did we ever fathom out the car outside the hotel?
No. Frustratingly.

aeropilot

34,605 posts

227 months

Friday 28th October 2016
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Riley Blue said:
It was dropped from a helicopter flying at 300 feet - I don't know if that counts.
I've got a sequence photo of a RAF Chinook doing the same thing with a Triumph 2000 Mk1 at the airshow at RAF Abingdon in 1981.

Need to did the slides out from a box somewhere and try and scan them.

sun.and.rain

1,649 posts

139 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Mid 50s Riley Pathfinder / Wolseley type 50s thing from the 1950s. Not a Wolseley 4/44 as I thought before but the bigger one.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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sun.and.rain said:
Mid 50s Riley Pathfinder / Wolseley type 50s thing from the 1950s. Not a Wolseley 4/44 as I thought before but the bigger one.
I think we've got a winner. The rear wing shape's much more like.


nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
sun.and.rain said:
Mid 50s Riley Pathfinder / Wolseley type 50s thing from the 1950s. Not a Wolseley 4/44 as I thought before but the bigger one.
I think we've got a winner. The rear wing shape's much more like.

The mystery car does not have the number plate mounted on the boot, but under the bumper, just like a Magnette. Another member has pointed out that the style of damage to the rear nearside wheelarch suggests GRP has been used. Quite possibly it was an accident damage repair.

ChasW

2,135 posts

202 months

Saturday 29th October 2016
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Riley Blue said:
It was dropped from a helicopter flying at 300 feet - I don't know if that counts.
So they beat Top Gear to it!