The next 205 Gti. Mk1 Gti. Renault 5 turbo. what's next ?
Discussion
mattswan69 said:
Is there any way of guessing what will be the next 205 Gti , the next Golf Gti, these cars can now fetch 10k and we may well of owned a few ! Can we guess trends ? From the little I know about cars I'm guessing that classics become classics for a few reasons one of which is nostalgic, you owned a Gti when you were 18. We're now all a bit older and in a position to maybe have a toy tucked away, maybe in your 40s and you want what you had when you were 18 ! The good memory's and so on.
Is this how it works? What will the next generation be choosing ?
I've got a lovely little 106 Rallye tucked away. Not worth a great deal now but will it become a 10k car. I hope so as I need something towards my pension !!!!!
SO WHAT CARS ARE THE NEXT FUTURE CLASSICS ???
I'm pretty certain, and i sort of regret saying this, but....a Mk1 Saxo VTS they are getting thin on the ground, standard and under 100K miles, once unloved, and a chav mobile, but one to watch in the next few years i'm sure, that and the 106GTI.Is this how it works? What will the next generation be choosing ?
I've got a lovely little 106 Rallye tucked away. Not worth a great deal now but will it become a 10k car. I hope so as I need something towards my pension !!!!!
SO WHAT CARS ARE THE NEXT FUTURE CLASSICS ???
Clio Williams, also not quite hit the top yet.
Andy
Funky Panda said:
I agree, ticks all the right boxes for future classic status. Quick, manual and limited numbers.
Also think the 197 Clio F1 in time, especially now everything hot hatch practically has 5 doors, and the new Clio sport is an auto, will only help add value to those nice, manual, low mileage, 3 door cars.Andy
andyman_2006 said:
I'm pretty certain, and i sort of regret saying this, but....a Mk1 Saxo VTS they are getting thin on the ground, standard and under 100K miles, once unloved, and a chav mobile, but one to watch in the next few years i'm sure, that and the 106GTI.
Andy
Both great cars, the Peugeot was a bit more new but that paid for arguably nicer interior trimAndy
The Citroen Saxo VTR and VTS models are a good shout. They have the same recipe as those 80s hatches mentioned - sold in large numbers but rapidly dwindling, but immensely popular in its day. This will give the nostalgia factor that will lead people to look back at them in the future. Same with the EP3 Civic Type R.
Golf mk4 R32 will never lose all its value and probably start going up now. Golf mk5 gti will eventually hit the bottom, numbers will thin out and then start going up again.
Fiat Coupe?
Golf mk4 R32 will never lose all its value and probably start going up now. Golf mk5 gti will eventually hit the bottom, numbers will thin out and then start going up again.
Fiat Coupe?
Hub said:
The Citroen Saxo VTR and VTS models are a good shout. They have the same recipe as those 80s hatches mentioned - sold in large numbers but rapidly dwindling, but immensely popular in its day. This will give the nostalgia factor that will lead people to look back at them in the future. Same with the EP3 Civic Type R.
Golf mk4 R32 will never lose all its value and probably start going up now. Golf mk5 gti will eventually hit the bottom, numbers will thin out and then start going up again.
Fiat Coupe?
Fiat coupe ! not sure what they are fetching these days, an earlier post said Renault Clio Williams again not really hit big heights, not sure if they would. The R32 is a good shout though, maybe they will go crazy like the mk1 RS Focus has now.Golf mk4 R32 will never lose all its value and probably start going up now. Golf mk5 gti will eventually hit the bottom, numbers will thin out and then start going up again.
Fiat Coupe?
mattswan69 said:
The R32 is a good shout though, maybe they will go crazy like the mk1 RS Focus has now.
The mk1 Focus RS hasn't gone crazy it has just held its value firm for years.R32s have been available for £4k for a long time but only the leggiest or ropiest Focus RS have dipped below £8k.
Ahbefive said:
e21Mark said:
Another BMW is the 325ti Compact. Values have climbed steadily over the past year, with premiums on Imola red.
Really? There seem to be plenty for sale for £1k-£2k. Were they at £500 before.ETA - Seems some others feel the same.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/94542/bmw-325ti
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/why-you-need-to-b...
Edited by e21Mark on Friday 13th January 06:13
205gti, MK1 golf Gti[only], 1960's mini cooper 'S's, and renault5 turbo, and similar small hatches were fun cars to drive, that's what makes them desirable to own as classics. whereas '3 box' BMW saloons [and MB/Audi] equivelants were boring rep cars/shopping trolleys, I never lusted after one in my youth so IMO they're never gonna be desirable to own as classics [more a case methinks of dealers trying to 'talk them up' here in this thread]. Of those 3 box saloons that havn't made the scrappy already then the sooner they do the better
However there will always be some who like them
this summer for example I saw a dozen or so 2002 BMW's [German Marinas] in convoy, when I hadn't seen any of those for probably 20 years, so someone somewhere love's 'em. Each to their own;)
However there will always be some who like them
this summer for example I saw a dozen or so 2002 BMW's [German Marinas] in convoy, when I hadn't seen any of those for probably 20 years, so someone somewhere love's 'em. Each to their own;)
ETA - Can't speak for anyone else but I'm not a trader, although I am partial to a 70's or 80's BMW and was probably amongst that group of Marinas, sorry 02's, you saw last summer.
Whilst you might not like 3 box saloon, there are quite a few people who do and the Neu Klasse (inc 02's & 2000ti etc) are what saved BMW back in the late 60's and early 70's. They set a benchmark for sports saloons and the 02's have a reputation for good handling and performance that the British competition couldn't match. They have a strong following worldwide, which is why values are so strong. The 02 turbo was about the first mass produced, European turbo powered car too.
Also, the BMW 2000 tii touring was a proper hatchback with rear wheel drive and an injected 2 litre engine making 130bhp, way before the Golf.
The later e30 BMW M3's are iconic and for good reason.
Edited by e21Mark on Friday 13th January 18:40
S47 said:
205gti, MK1 golf Gti[only], 1960's mini cooper 'S's, and renault5 turbo, and similar small hatches were fun cars to drive, that's what makes them desirable to own as classics. whereas '3 box' BMW saloons [and MB/Audi] equivelants were boring rep cars/shopping trolleys, I never lusted after one in my youth so IMO they're never gonna be desirable to own as classics [more a case methinks of dealers trying to 'talk them up' here in this thread]. Of those 3 box saloons that havn't made the scrappy already then the sooner they do the better
However there will always be some who like them this summer for example I saw a dozen or so 2002 BMW's [German Marinas] in convoy, when I hadn't seen any of those for probably 20 years, so someone somewhere love's 'em. Each to their own;)
Loved my old 3 box saloons - I think they've gone up in price ( like the small hatches I had too )However there will always be some who like them
this summer for example I saw a dozen or so 2002 BMW's [German Marinas] in convoy, when I hadn't seen any of those for probably 20 years, so someone somewhere love's 'em. Each to their own;)
I know my friend couldn't afford his 3-box 1.8 Escort these days
The old E21 323i and E30 325i have gone up loads as well
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