Suspicious Car Buyer..?
Discussion
As of yesterday night I have for sale in the PH Classifieds.
After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
Martin350 said:
As of yesterday night I have for sale in the PH Classifieds.
After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
Do you live under a rock?After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
Martin350 said:
As of yesterday night I have for sale in the PH Classifieds.
After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
If he seems to be a motor trader who may be looking for stock, chances are hes trying to sound you out on price rather than waste a lot of precious time running around looking at cars where the price cant be negotiated.After only a couple of hours I was contacted via email from someone asking what my lowest price would be if they collected the car tomorrow (today).
The email address suggested this was not an individual but a car sales business.
A quick Google search shows that this is probably a one man car sales company with no current stock.
I replied saying that I thought it best he came and looked at the car and negotiated from there.
I recieved another email today in which he made me a good offer on the car, still without even showing any intertest in coming to look at it, which has got my spidey senses tingling!
Anyone else experenced something similar?
Should I ignore the emails and wait for someone else to get in touch?
If it's a scam what could it be leading up to?
Thanks.
I'd ask him to ring you to discuss.
He asks you for your best price. Let's say you advertise at £1800, but tell him on the phone that your very very best price would be £1500. You've already told him what you would consider. He says that price is ok if the car is as described.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
Borroxs said:
He asks you for your best price. Let's say you advertise at £1800, but tell him on the phone that your very very best price would be £1500. You've already told him what you would consider. He says that price is ok if the car is as described.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
And thats the scam is it?He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
Sounds like common buying tactics to me?
I'd a guy try similar with me - he was coming some distance and we agreed £1700 on the phone. He went and got his mate and drove the two hour trek to me. He couldnt actually find anything not as described with my car, so then was forced to admit he only had £1400 but he thought i would take that. I refused as it wasnt what was agreed and him and his (now furious) mate had to drive the two hours back home again
Edited by daemon on Monday 23 January 18:04
daemon said:
Borroxs said:
He asks you for your best price. Let's say you advertise at £1800, but tell him on the phone that your very very best price would be £1500. You've already told him what you would consider. He says that price is ok if the car is as described.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
And thats the scam is it?He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
Sounds like perfectly reasonable buying tactics to me?
Some interesting thoughts here, thanks!
Just to add, a friend of mine works full time but is also a registered motor trader with a business name, trade plates etc., all completely legal, and he buys and sells maybe a car a month on average in his spare time, so quite often he has no 'stock'.
Just to add, a friend of mine works full time but is also a registered motor trader with a business name, trade plates etc., all completely legal, and he buys and sells maybe a car a month on average in his spare time, so quite often he has no 'stock'.
Borroxs said:
daemon said:
Borroxs said:
He asks you for your best price. Let's say you advertise at £1800, but tell him on the phone that your very very best price would be £1500. You've already told him what you would consider. He says that price is ok if the car is as described.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
And thats the scam is it?He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
Sounds like perfectly reasonable buying tactics to me?
You replied with that.
daemon said:
Borroxs said:
daemon said:
Borroxs said:
He asks you for your best price. Let's say you advertise at £1800, but tell him on the phone that your very very best price would be £1500. You've already told him what you would consider. He says that price is ok if the car is as described.
He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
And thats the scam is it?He comes down, wants the car, but then points out some issues not originally disclosed. You accept maybe that he has found some issues you may not have known about. He is no longer prepared to pay £1500 as discussed, but he's there, and he has cash for you right now. Suddenly you are agreeing to a price of about £1250.
He pays you and then you stand there wondering how the deal was so bad. It's because you already told him a price you would agree to, and instead of starting at your original price you started negotiating at your lowest price.
Sounds like perfectly reasonable buying tactics to me?
You replied with that.
And you could describe it as a scam of sorts, as he never has any intention of paying your 'lowest price', he knows he can make you go lower, with either finding a genuine issue you e not declared/noticed, or using his car knowledge to make you think the car has an issue.
The whole reason for asking your lowest price is to get to a point he can beat you down further from.
Just give him your paypal details or set up a Western Union transfer and let his shipping agent take it
He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
Matt UK said:
Just give him your paypal details or set up a Western Union transfer and let his shipping agent take it
He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
If the O/P has already established that this prospective buyer is a trader - presumably by googling the phone number - then i dont think this is the likely outcome here?He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
daemon said:
Matt UK said:
Just give him your paypal details or set up a Western Union transfer and let his shipping agent take it
He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
If the O/P has already established that this prospective buyer is a trader - presumably by googling the phone number - then i dont think this is the likely outcome here?He can then pay the balance in full when he sees how good it is.
Jeez, some people have no faith in the human spirit anymore, it's all very sad.
(or have a phone conversation with the chap and take it from there)
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