Fifty Shades of Rust - Lancia Integrustle

Fifty Shades of Rust - Lancia Integrustle

Author
Discussion

Thurbs

2,780 posts

221 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
quotequote all
That isn't rotten, just some minor surface rust wink

This was rotten...



The engine cut out will most likely be a sensor issue. Does the engine management light come on?

bloomen

6,845 posts

158 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
quotequote all
LotusOmega375D said:
Nice film. Mine had woeful brakes when I bought it too. There was almost no stopping power whatsoever, but I factored that into my budgeting and it wasn't too expensive to put right. I was probably a fool to sell when I did. It was immaculate and running perfectly by then.
Brakes and lights were the real weakness of the 8v/16v vs Evo. Luckily they're a breeze to put right. The only real advantage beyond that is better suspension of which not much can be done.

I think I preferred the non Evo looks wise overall. It's more restrained but still has purpose.

16VJay

235 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
quotequote all
Seem to remember the first port of call for cutting out at higher revs was to check the manifold pressure sensors, probably the high range one. Luckily they're about the easiest thing to access on a Grale, high up near the coolant header tank under a pressed cover.

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
quotequote all
Thurbs said:
That isn't rotten, just some minor surface rust wink

This was rotten...



The engine cut out will most likely be a sensor issue. Does the engine management light come on?
st.. that is rotten! It's with the mechanics now so hopefully they will sort it out. Will keep you all updated. Thanks for all your replies!

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
quotequote all
Thurbs said:
That isn't rotten, just some minor surface rust wink

This was rotten...



The engine cut out will most likely be a sensor issue. Does the engine management light come on?
A lot of that is accident damage and/or people jacking it up incorrectly.




Evoluzione

10,345 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
quotequote all
jackpe said:
st.. that is rotten! It's with the mechanics now so hopefully they will sort it out. Will keep you all updated. Thanks for all your replies!
The first place I would look is if it's overboosting, if it's going out of the Eproms range then there will be a sudden boost cut.
I also wouldn't go back to whoever put an MOT on a car with severe corrosion like that!

Edited by Evoluzione on Thursday 16th March 08:35

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
quotequote all
And finally some of this weeks delights, I generally stick to engines now as it's what I enjoy and do better than most, but every so often I'm caught out by jobs like this. They start off as an engine build, then i'm asked to fit it, then it's "Oh while it's in can you look at some bodywork issues?" and before long it's a huge job, i'll learn, but when its been sent from abroad in a container you can hardly turn it back.







The cills had the rigidity of cardboard and you do wonder what's holding them together sometimes, or what would happen in an accident. At least when it's had all the work done and the strengthening plate kit added it will be better than it was when it left the factory.

Edited by Evoluzione on Thursday 16th March 09:04

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
quotequote all
Wow, that looks worse than mine!

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
quotequote all
I should imagine it was, you can get a general idea from poking around underneath when it's up in the air, but you don't know how bad until you take the cill covers off and/or have a look inside.

Thurbs

2,780 posts

221 months

Friday 17th March 2017
quotequote all
Even then the middle and inner sill can be hiding loads of rot you cant see because someone has just plated the outer sil.

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Friday 17th March 2017
quotequote all
Wow, that looks worse than mine!

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

162 months

Friday 17th March 2017
quotequote all
It's the same with Escort Cosworths ,plastic side skirts hide rotten sills.

MOT tester can't see the rot ,so can't fail it.

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
quotequote all
Same with E30 M3's too.

I've always loved to look of Intergrale. There's just something about box arches and real motorsport heritage. Their rarity always seemed to make spotting one in the wild a real event and all the sweeter because of it.

Glad to see those rust repairs are being done properly. I went through my M3 and had to deal with rust and previous poor repairs. It was pretty satisfying when the metal work was complete and freshly painted. It makes all the stress, work and expenditure worth while.

Did you manage to diagnose the running issue?

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
quotequote all
Picked it up yesterday.. mechanic says all ok. He replaced the temp sensor and redid the connectors to the TPS which were just using a connector block. I've not tried it properly yet. Seems to be running better but only the same as before I took it to them before they did the work. Still has an idle issue though it is better. I've got a new ISV valve so will try replacing that today!

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
quotequote all
I think troublesome electrics are another thing cars of this era share. Especially when people have fitted alarms, stereos etc. In the engine bay though, I think years of heat and old age play their part and I've gradually worked my way through and replaced all sensors etc as I've gone.

Good to hear yours is running a bit better now. Is it totally stock? If so, will you be keeping it that way?

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
quotequote all
Hey Mark, no its not! ECU was remapped. Head ported and valves 3 way cut. Also has an evo front end suspension wise!

jackpe

Original Poster:

500 posts

163 months

Sunday 19th March 2017
quotequote all
Finally running well enough to take out for a thrash! Fast little thing. Great! The exhaust and ECU remap should mean around 250bhp, even with standard boost. Also the lightened flywheel and a few other bits. Two new front tires and it'll be good to go for a while!

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Monday 20th March 2017
quotequote all
250 brake in a nice, light but capable chassis is great fun. It seems as if people are obsessed with big power nowadays but I much prefer something like this.

Any more pics?

227bhp

10,203 posts

127 months

Monday 20th March 2017
quotequote all
You'll be lucky to see 220bhp with that spec, although surely whoever remapped it did it on a dyno so there should be a power figure from that.

cornershop

2,136 posts

195 months

Monday 20th March 2017
quotequote all
Fantastic looking car OP, has to be worth an occasional face-in-hands moment, surely?

I mean, just look at it - bet is sounds as good it as looks ?