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P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
'72 SWB Daimler Sovereign 4.2 manual here, one of 11,522 built of which probably less than ten percent were manuals...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1628291


S1 XJ production figures 1968-1973 for anyone interested...

Jaguar 2.8 SWB = 19,322

Daimler Sovereign 2.8 SWB = 3,233

Jaguar 4.2 SWB = 59,077

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 SWB = 11,522

Jaguar 4.2 LWB = 874

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 LWB = 386

Jaguar XJ12 SWB = 2,474

Daimler Double Six SWB = 534

Jaguar XJ12 LWB = 754

Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas LWB = 351

Total S1 production = 98,527

wink

ETA : one of the 351 Daimler Double Six VDPs is currently for sale too...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204494898051?hash=item2...



Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 25th October 19:55
They're both stunning, especially the Double Six, that colour really is lovely and the chrome wheels just set it off.

The Double Six Vanden Plas in both in series 1 and series 2 were available in a few quite distinctive metallic colours which must have been quite special in the early-mid 1970s. I remember seeing a photo of a series 2 in a dark blue almost purple metallic.
I've been looking at them a lot since I posted in here yesterday, I can definitely sense another Jag 'phase' looming! I seem to recall a rather nice red S1 XJ driven by the villains in an episode of a certain TV show who's main character bears your username... whistlewink



Chromegrill

1,083 posts

86 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Spotted a new 7 series earlier today with a kidney grille occupying almost the whole of the front end of the car and thought what is that.

Now I understand where BMW got the idea from, imitation is clearly the sincerest form of flattery.

Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
'72 SWB Daimler Sovereign 4.2 manual here, one of 11,522 built of which probably less than ten percent were manuals...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1628291


S1 XJ production figures 1968-1973 for anyone interested...

Jaguar 2.8 SWB = 19,322

Daimler Sovereign 2.8 SWB = 3,233

Jaguar 4.2 SWB = 59,077

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 SWB = 11,522

Jaguar 4.2 LWB = 874

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 LWB = 386

Jaguar XJ12 SWB = 2,474

Daimler Double Six SWB = 534

Jaguar XJ12 LWB = 754

Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas LWB = 351

Total S1 production = 98,527

wink

ETA : one of the 351 Daimler Double Six VDPs is currently for sale too...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204494898051?hash=item2...



Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 25th October 19:55
They're both stunning, especially the Double Six, that colour really is lovely and the chrome wheels just set it off.

The Double Six Vanden Plas in both in series 1 and series 2 were available in a few quite distinctive metallic colours which must have been quite special in the early-mid 1970s. I remember seeing a photo of a series 2 in a dark blue almost purple metallic.
I've been looking at them a lot since I posted in here yesterday, I can definitely sense another Jag 'phase' looming! I seem to recall a rather nice red S1 XJ driven by the villains in an episode of a certain TV show who's main character bears your username... whistlewink
biglaugh Yes I'll need to get the box set out again, I've not watched it in a while, but if I remember the series 1 XJ pops up quite regularly along with a lot of other desirable 70s metal.

The end of the first episode has one getting ragged round an airfield trying to run someone over.


Edited by Harry Rule on Thursday 26th October 23:27

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
'72 SWB Daimler Sovereign 4.2 manual here, one of 11,522 built of which probably less than ten percent were manuals...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1628291


S1 XJ production figures 1968-1973 for anyone interested...

Jaguar 2.8 SWB = 19,322

Daimler Sovereign 2.8 SWB = 3,233

Jaguar 4.2 SWB = 59,077

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 SWB = 11,522

Jaguar 4.2 LWB = 874

Daimler Sovereign 4.2 LWB = 386

Jaguar XJ12 SWB = 2,474

Daimler Double Six SWB = 534

Jaguar XJ12 LWB = 754

Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas LWB = 351

Total S1 production = 98,527

wink

ETA : one of the 351 Daimler Double Six VDPs is currently for sale too...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204494898051?hash=item2...



Edited by P5BNij on Wednesday 25th October 19:55
They're both stunning, especially the Double Six, that colour really is lovely and the chrome wheels just set it off.

The Double Six Vanden Plas in both in series 1 and series 2 were available in a few quite distinctive metallic colours which must have been quite special in the early-mid 1970s. I remember seeing a photo of a series 2 in a dark blue almost purple metallic.
I've been looking at them a lot since I posted in here yesterday, I can definitely sense another Jag 'phase' looming! I seem to recall a rather nice red S1 XJ driven by the villains in an episode of a certain TV show who's main character bears your username... whistlewink
biglaugh Yes I'll need to get the box set out again, I've not watched it in a while, but if I remember the series 1 XJ pops up quite regularly along with a lot of other desirable 70s metal.

The end of the first episode has one getting ragged round an airfield trying to run someone over.


Edited by Harry Rule on Thursday 26th October 23:27
Yes I remember that - it had tinted glass all round and the reg' 'MAN 3', which doesn't show up on the DVLA search wink

I came very close to buying this one several years ago, if memory serves it was being sold as an unwanted prize in a competition...



On the way home from work this morning I stopped off at Browns Lane in Cov to have a quick shuftie at Guy Broad's garage, behind the glass were a selection of XK120s, C and D Types wink


Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
Yes I remember that - it had tinted glass all round and the reg' 'MAN 3', which doesn't show up on the DVLA search wink

I came very close to buying this one several years ago, if memory serves it was being sold as an unwanted prize in a competition...



On the way home from work this morning I stopped off at Browns Lane in Cov to have a quick shuftie at Guy Broad's garage, behind the glass were a selection of XK120s, C and D Types wink
That's right, I had forgotten the reg no. I suppose that could be a very early Isle Of Man number, so it probably wouldn't show up on a DVLA search.

I don't think they routinely used false number plates in The Protectors, the Jensen was certainly on it's genuine plate and I'm sure I've checked others that have shown up on a DVLA search.

That Jag's lovely, Coventry registration number as well so maybe originally registered by Jaguar themselves, so potentially a bit of history to it. It's still around, taxed through to next year.

If you don't mind me asking, what made you decide not to buy it?

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
Yes I remember that - it had tinted glass all round and the reg' 'MAN 3', which doesn't show up on the DVLA search wink

I came very close to buying this one several years ago, if memory serves it was being sold as an unwanted prize in a competition...



On the way home from work this morning I stopped off at Browns Lane in Cov to have a quick shuftie at Guy Broad's garage, behind the glass were a selection of XK120s, C and D Types wink
That's right, I had forgotten the reg no. I suppose that could be a very early Isle Of Man number, so it probably wouldn't show up on a DVLA search.

I don't think they routinely used false number plates in The Protectors, the Jensen was certainly on it's genuine plate and I'm sure I've checked others that have shown up on a DVLA search.

That Jag's lovely, Coventry registration number as well so maybe originally registered by Jaguar themselves, so potentially a bit of history to it. It's still around, taxed through to next year.

If you don't mind me asking, what made you decide not to buy it?
I also had my eye on a Rover P5B Coupe at the time which was a little bit higher up the 'shopping list', alas I didn't buy that particular one either but found another, better example not long after. Still kicking myself over that red S1 XJ though, it was only £5k and very nice indeed wink



uk66fastback

16,548 posts

271 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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I’ve also been having a look at these lately as well, there was a S1 in white at last year’s NEC show which was drop dead gorgeous but it was way overpriced at a fiver under thirty grand …

I like this one - my untrained-with-Jags eye would probably be done over but it looks the dogs in the pics …

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285519925986

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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uk66fastback said:
I’ve also been having a look at these lately as well, there was a S1 in white at last year’s NEC show which was drop dead gorgeous but it was way overpriced at a fiver under thirty grand …

I like this one - my untrained-with-Jags eye would probably be done over but it looks the dogs in the pics …

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285519925986
I was egging my mate on to buy that white S1, he was sorely tempted but didn't want to dip into his pension pot.

I found a youtube clip of that beige 2.8 on my ipad yesterday but I can't find the link now, it was from 2022 showing it before it was resprayed and recommissioned. Looks good in the ad.







Edited by P5BNij on Friday 27th October 20:16


Edit : just found that clip, it was at Mathewsons in July last year...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6CPHbUtWg&t=...

Edited by P5BNij on Friday 27th October 20:30

Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
Yes I remember that - it had tinted glass all round and the reg' 'MAN 3', which doesn't show up on the DVLA search wink

I came very close to buying this one several years ago, if memory serves it was being sold as an unwanted prize in a competition...



On the way home from work this morning I stopped off at Browns Lane in Cov to have a quick shuftie at Guy Broad's garage, behind the glass were a selection of XK120s, C and D Types wink
That's right, I had forgotten the reg no. I suppose that could be a very early Isle Of Man number, so it probably wouldn't show up on a DVLA search.

I don't think they routinely used false number plates in The Protectors, the Jensen was certainly on it's genuine plate and I'm sure I've checked others that have shown up on a DVLA search.

That Jag's lovely, Coventry registration number as well so maybe originally registered by Jaguar themselves, so potentially a bit of history to it. It's still around, taxed through to next year.

If you don't mind me asking, what made you decide not to buy it?
I also had my eye on a Rover P5B Coupe at the time which was a little bit higher up the 'shopping list', alas I didn't buy that particular one either but found another, better example not long after. Still kicking myself over that red S1 XJ though, it was only £5k and very nice indeed wink
I'll bet you are, if that's half as nice as it looks it'll be worth a damn site more than £5k now.

Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
uk66fastback said:
I’ve also been having a look at these lately as well, there was a S1 in white at last year’s NEC show which was drop dead gorgeous but it was way overpriced at a fiver under thirty grand …

I like this one - my untrained-with-Jags eye would probably be done over but it looks the dogs in the pics …

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285519925986
I was egging my mate on to buy that white S1, he was sorely tempted but didn't want to dip into his pension pot.

I found a youtube clip of that beige 2.8 on my ipad yesterday but I can't find the link now, it was from 2022 showing it before it was resprayed and recommissioned. Looks good in the ad.







Edited by P5BNij on Friday 27th October 20:16


Edit : just found that clip, it was at Mathewsons in July last year...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h6CPHbUtWg&t=...

Edited by P5BNij on Friday 27th October 20:30
Whoever has done the restoration of that grey one at Mathewson's has done a cracking job on it. It's unusual to see one that still has the straight tailpipes, it was only very early cars that had those.

TarquinMX5

1,945 posts

80 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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uk66fastback said:
I’ve also been having a look at these lately as well, there was a S1 in white at last year’s NEC show which was drop dead gorgeous but it was way overpriced at a fiver under thirty grand …

I like this one - my untrained-with-Jags eye would probably be done over but it looks the dogs in the pics …

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285519925986
That looks very nice; interesting that it has the very early straight exhaust which was changed to curved in mid-69.

Eta
Ah, beaten to it smile


Edited by TarquinMX5 on Friday 27th October 21:31

Wacky Racer

38,163 posts

247 months

Friday 27th October 2023
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My Dad had one of the very first 4.2 Jaguar XJ6's in the country in January 1969 KEN 142G, Pale Blue.

He put me on the insurance for an extra £15 biggrin (I had just passed my test aged 17) and I used to drive it all over.

Everywhere it was parked, people used to gather round and gawp through the windows at the walnut dashboard.

Great fun.

Once, someone put a note under the wipers offering him £1000 over list. (It was £2200)

vixen1700

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22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Anybody have any experience of the 2.8s then?

I always imagined them to be really under-powered for that size of car, so have always just dismissed them as a bit of an experimental flop on the part of Jaguar/BL.

That repainted grey one does look good.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:
Anybody have any experience of the 2.8s then?

I always imagined them to be really under-powered for that size of car, so have always just dismissed them as a bit of an experimental flop on the part of Jaguar/BL.

That repainted grey one does look good.
Not personally but 2.8 owners I've spoken to say they rev very freely and are nice to drive. Most, if not all, have had the problems sorted out by now too.

Gratuitous S1 front end pic taken at the NEC show a while back, just because...



Always loved the way it leans forward, it looks so dignified and purposeful.

uk66fastback

16,548 posts

271 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Looks like we all missed the bargain that primer 2.8 undoubtably was that sold at Mathewsons …



It’s had some work on it to be sure …

vixen1700

Original Poster:

22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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So the grey one sold at Mathewsons in August this year for £14k, and the final ebay bid on the latest sale was just under £9.5k with the reseve not met.

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-108--...

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:
So the grey one sold at Mathewsons in August this year for £14k, and the final ebay bid on the latest sale was just under £9.5k with the reseve not met.

https://www.mathewsons.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-108--...
It's rather nice isn't it? Wonder what the 2.8 is like with the auto box though...?

A very early one too with chrome dial surrounds.

I've just joined another Jag XJ facebook group, this may end in tears... biggrin

uk66fastback

16,548 posts

271 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Didn’t realise the grey one - which is lovely - sold AGAIN through Mathewsons just a couple of months ago …

Be nice to see it in the flesh to see what the quality of the paint is … but it’s in Leeds, so a fair way from me.

vixen1700

Original Poster:

22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
I've just joined another Jag XJ facebook group, this may end in tears... biggrin
hehe


Sitting in a pub on Tuesday, I showed my mrs.the one in the OP, she said "Ooh, that's lovely, why don't you buy it". eek

I'm wondering if one could fit in the garage... scratchchin

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:
P5BNij said:
I've just joined another Jag XJ facebook group, this may end in tears... biggrin
hehe


Sitting in a pub on Tuesday, I showed my mrs.the one in the OP, she said "Ooh, that's lovely, why don't you buy it". eek

I'm wondering if one could fit in the garage... scratchchin
Length is 15ft 9.5in, my series 2 fitted my garage nicely, the internal length of which is 17ft. You'd best buy one before Mrs.V changes her mind!





(Doors of my garage are 7ft wide wink)