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Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.

Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?

Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.

Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?

vixen1700

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22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Another 2.8 manual I stumbled across the other day while looking at a Volvo1800ES

http://www.cherishedclassiccars.com/Classic_Car_Sa...

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.

Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?

Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.

Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
Generally speaking 4.2s can be several grand more than 2.8s but like any classic, it depends on the condition / / spec / history of each individual car.

This '71 S1 2.8 auto is just shy of £18k and is probably an exception, you can still get a good 4.2 for less...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1499958

They do tend to vary a lot though and Daimlers can be seen as both lesser than / better than the equivalent Jag, depending on personal taste and the colour of tweed you happen to be wearing! Some can hang around the classifieds for ages, I remember about three years ago there was a beautiful S1 Daimler Sovereign in that lovely pink colour with a red interior that hung around for well over a year at £22k, then it disappeared. This isn't the actual car but it's the same colour...


P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Another gorgeous period colour on this '73 S1 Sovereign 4.2 Auto...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1582065


uk66fastback

16,548 posts

271 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Is that Lavender and Heather? Sounds like a beauty shop …

Grace, space, pace, face …

Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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P5BNij said:
Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.

Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?

Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.

Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
Generally speaking 4.2s can be several grand more than 2.8s but like any classic, it depends on the condition / / spec / history of each individual car.

This '71 S1 2.8 auto is just shy of £18k and is probably an exception, you can still get a good 4.2 for less...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1499958

They do tend to vary a lot though and Daimlers can be seen as both lesser than / better than the equivalent Jag, depending on personal taste and the colour of tweed you happen to be wearing! Some can hang around the classifieds for ages, I remember about three years ago there was a beautiful S1 Daimler Sovereign in that lovely pink colour with a red interior that hung around for well over a year at £22k, then it disappeared. This isn't the actual car but it's the same colour...

That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.

I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.

I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.

I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.

vixen1700

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22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Here's the 2.8 Daimler that lives outside and is a few minutes walk from me. No change to it from this picture taken in April 2021.

and31

3,030 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Absolutely beautiful cars-my father had a series 1 (and lots of other jags) it was H registered and not that old at the time.he could have had an E type roadster at the time for the same money but a two seater was no good as the family car!!
I’d love a series 1 manual overdrive, or another series 3, but the rust that Harry Metcalfe encountered on his XJC would certainly put me off!

Harry Rule

179 posts

41 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:


Here's the 2.8 Daimler that lives outside and is a few minutes walk from me. No change to it from this picture taken in April 2021.
If that's left sitting out on the street I'm guessing someone's using it as a daily driver.

Fair play to them if they are cool

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.

Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?

Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.

Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
Generally speaking 4.2s can be several grand more than 2.8s but like any classic, it depends on the condition / / spec / history of each individual car.

This '71 S1 2.8 auto is just shy of £18k and is probably an exception, you can still get a good 4.2 for less...

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1499958

They do tend to vary a lot though and Daimlers can be seen as both lesser than / better than the equivalent Jag, depending on personal taste and the colour of tweed you happen to be wearing! Some can hang around the classifieds for ages, I remember about three years ago there was a beautiful S1 Daimler Sovereign in that lovely pink colour with a red interior that hung around for well over a year at £22k, then it disappeared. This isn't the actual car but it's the same colour...

That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.

I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.

I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.

I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
I didn't notice the ride height at first but now you mention it it sticks out like a sore thumb. New springs / shock absorbers at the front perhaps...?

Was thinking coral for that pink colour but you're right it's heather. A school mate's dad had a S1 in heather which looked the business, he owned a string of shops and often wore a dark brown sheepskin coat, he looked like a villain from The Sweeney, even though his car was pink wink

The S1 XJ from 'The Protectors' I mentioned earlier with (I think) Dunlop alloys in place of the steels...





There was a pretty good thirteen part series called 'Villains' on ITV in 1972 which featured three S1s, a Daimler and two Jags...







S1 XJ wearing 15'' Cosmics in period ads from '71...




and31

3,030 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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One of these with a few engine tweaks and suspension upgrades would be a really cool car indeed

and31

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Saturday 28th October 2023
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P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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^^^ Very nice.

Just spotted another S1 for sale, a '71 Daimler 4.2 auto... gorgeous interior...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134760169651?hash=item1...

vixen1700

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22,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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The garage in that photo looks a similar size to mine. frown

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:
The garage in that photo looks a similar size to mine. frown
Get the tape measure out!

More period XJ teasers... wink

















Not helping much am I...? hehe


vixen1700

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22,925 posts

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Saturday 28th October 2023
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hehe

P5BNij

15,875 posts

106 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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vixen1700 said:
hehe
I'd aplogise but what's the point...! wink

Bill Lyon's grandson drives his grandad's S1...

https://www.cotswoldtv.com/dna-jaguar-ep-8-sir-wil...


Facebook group collection of very early XJs...

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1000572131...

Edited by P5BNij on Saturday 28th October 17:22

and31

3,030 posts

127 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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We had several series 2’s aswell,but I always loved the series 1-the dashboard and dials and switches!!


Edited by and31 on Saturday 28th October 21:58

Huntsman

8,054 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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I had an S1. Daimler 2.8 auto.

Spurred on by Breadvan72 I bought one, it didnt run on petrol and the diy installed lpg was leaking!

Made it 100 miles home, stripped out the lpg, fitted a pair of Rover 2000 manual choke SU's and electronic ignition.

It then ran like a dream, they are a spectacularly good car, better than the Rover P6 estate I'm driving at the moment.

TarquinMX5

1,945 posts

80 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Harry Rule said:
That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.

I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.

I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.

I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Not a popular colour but was available for both '73 and '74 model years. I agree about the Daimler grille (and also the XJ12 one), I think the vertical slats make a difference.