Discussion
Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.
Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
I recall the 2.8 auto had a better gearbox and a shorter diff, mine went very well round town, everytime I pulled away I went faster than I needed to and was overcome with bank robber emotions.Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
TarquinMX5 said:
Harry Rule said:
That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.
I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Not a popular colour but was available for both '73 and '74 model years. I agree about the Daimler grille (and also the XJ12 one), I think the vertical slats make a difference.I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Another unusual colour on this S1 seen parked up somewhere in London, possibly a respray, one I posted ages ago in the period classics thread...
P5BNij said:
TarquinMX5 said:
Harry Rule said:
That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.
I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Not a popular colour but was available for both '73 and '74 model years. I agree about the Daimler grille (and also the XJ12 one), I think the vertical slats make a difference.I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Another unusual colour on this S1 seen parked up somewhere in London, possibly a respray, one I posted ages ago in the period classics thread...
I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
That Facebook link you posted has got a few tv and movie cars in it.
I spotted stills from The Protectors, The Persuaders, Sweeney2, I think there's one from Callan and the car in the robbery scene at the start of Sweeney! is in there too.
Edited by Harry Rule on Saturday 28th October 19:50
Huntsman said:
Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.
Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
I recall the 2.8 auto had a better gearbox and a shorter diff, mine went very well round town, everytime I pulled away I went faster than I needed to and was overcome with bank robber emotions.Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
Harry Rule said:
Wow, it's a Double Six as well.
I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
You beat me to it again I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
Edited by Harry Rule on Saturday 28th October 19:50
I was going to say it's Greensand; I think it's the picture quality that makes it look a bit darker. Judging by the other cars in the photo, maybe mid-70s? It looks kitted out for a French / continental trip with its yellow headlights and roofrack.
Harry Rule said:
P5BNij said:
TarquinMX5 said:
Harry Rule said:
That white one in the link you posted looks as if it's sitting a bit too high at the front, although it might just be parked on uneven ground and making it look that way.
I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Not a popular colour but was available for both '73 and '74 model years. I agree about the Daimler grille (and also the XJ12 one), I think the vertical slats make a difference.I quite like the look of the series 1 Daimler with the fluted grill, it gives it quite a distinctive look that's not as obvious on the later series 2 and 3 cars.
I like that pink colour too, it's certainly rare, it might be a bit challenging with a bright red interior though.
I believe the colour's called heather and was only available in 1973.
Another unusual colour on this S1 seen parked up somewhere in London, possibly a respray, one I posted ages ago in the period classics thread...
I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
That Facebook link you posted has got a few tv and movie cars in it.
I spotted stills from The Protectors, The Persuaders, Sweeney2, I think there's one from Callan and the car in the robbery scene at the start of Sweeney! is in there too.
Edited by Harry Rule on Saturday 28th October 19:50
There were quite a few S1s in The Sweeney, the white one driven by Ian Hendry and Brian Blessed in the first episode 'Ringer' which was filmed in '74, also appeared in an episode of 'Special Branch' the year before...
As far as I can make out the very first appearance of an XJ as a gangster's motor was the light blue one used by Joss Ackland and T.P.McKenna in 'Villain', which was filmed in the late summer of 1970...
Huntsman said:
Harry Rule said:
When these were new cars, yes the 4.2 was considered the one to have and the 2.8 got a bit of criticism for being underpowered and having some reliability issues.
Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
I recall the 2.8 auto had a better gearbox and a shorter diff, mine went very well round town, everytime I pulled away I went faster than I needed to and was overcome with bank robber emotions.Looking at them as classic cars though and assuming the reliability issues are sorted now, would it really make much difference whether it was a 2.8 or a 4.2?
Let's face it, most people who have one now are only going to be taking it out on high days and holidays when the weather's nice and they're likely going to be driven quite sedately, so power and performance aren't really going to be an issue.
Is there much difference in price between nice examples of each one?
I think if you’re going to get one, get one with a coloured interior, not black. White with red interior would be great, white with black not so much … you don’t see modern cars with coloured interiors really - the odd biscuit/oatmeal maybe but everything still seems to be black.
Cloth wouldn’t bother me unduly either …
Cloth wouldn’t bother me unduly either …
uk66fastback said:
I think if you’re going to get one, get one with a coloured interior, not black. White with red interior would be great, white with black not so much … you don’t see modern cars with coloured interiors really - the odd biscuit/oatmeal maybe but everything still seems to be black.
Cloth wouldn’t bother me unduly either …
I actually like black interiors in older cars but appreciate why some find them too dark or claustrophobic. The other colours available throughout the series XJs are nice though, the dark blues look classy while the olive green is very 'period'. The only thing that didn't gell with me in my S2 XJ was the biscuit interior which was three different shades of beige, I'd have much preferred red or black!Cloth wouldn’t bother me unduly either …
The contrasting blue interior in Luke's S1 XJ12 is lovely...
P5BNij said:
I actually like black interiors in older cars but appreciate why some find them too dark or claustrophobic. The other colours available throughout the series XJs are nice though, the dark blues look classy while the olive green is very 'period'. The only thing that didn't gell with me in my S2 XJ was the biscuit interior which was three different shades of beige, I'd have much preferred red or black!
The contrasting blue interior in Luke's S1 XJ12 is lovely...
Lovely!The contrasting blue interior in Luke's S1 XJ12 is lovely...
aeropilot said:
P5BNij said:
ETA : one of the 351 Daimler Double Six VDPs is currently for sale too...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204494898051?hash=item2...
Gorgeous colour combo as well......can't have been many built in that metallic coral colour, let alone survived.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/204494898051?hash=item2...
Reminds me of the stunning, super rare Porsche Salmon metallic on 911's from the same era.
Just been chatting with a mate who came round in his '79 Mini Clubman, we went down to my garage to tinker with my '68 Mk2 Cooper and he's set his heart on buying it off me as soon as he can sell two of his other cars, which means I might be closer to buying another XJ. Might take a while but I really want one now
TarquinMX5 said:
Harry Rule said:
Wow, it's a Double Six as well.
I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
You beat me to it again I wonder how many series 1 Double Sixes were made in heather, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the only one.
That second one I thought might be this colour, which I think is Greensand, although I'm not sure, the one in the photo looks darker.
https://youtu.be/9r4NedPehpU?si=Pezo-yfo3pOihjet
Edited by Harry Rule on Saturday 28th October 19:50
I was going to say it's Greensand; I think it's the picture quality that makes it look a bit darker. Judging by the other cars in the photo, maybe mid-70s? It looks kitted out for a French / continental trip with its yellow headlights and roofrack.
I was peering at it, I thought it was a metallic gold at first which I can't remember ever seeing on a series 1 or 2 XJ.
P5BNij said:
Given that the S1 V12s were only in production for about a year I'd say you're probably right, it may well be the only one in heather, or at most, one of a handful.
There were quite a few S1s in The Sweeney, the white one driven by Ian Hendry and Brian Blessed in the first episode 'Ringer' which was filmed in '74, also appeared in an episode of 'Special Branch' the year before...
As far as I can make out the very first appearance of an XJ as a gangster's motor was the light blue one used by Joss Ackland and T.P.McKenna in 'Villain', which was filmed in the late summer of 1970...
Ah Villain, an underrated British film that has some good car content throughout.There were quite a few S1s in The Sweeney, the white one driven by Ian Hendry and Brian Blessed in the first episode 'Ringer' which was filmed in '74, also appeared in an episode of 'Special Branch' the year before...
As far as I can make out the very first appearance of an XJ as a gangster's motor was the light blue one used by Joss Ackland and T.P.McKenna in 'Villain', which was filmed in the late summer of 1970...
P5BNij said:
I actually like black interiors in older cars but appreciate why some find them too dark or claustrophobic. The other colours available throughout the series XJs are nice though, the dark blues look classy while the olive green is very 'period'. The only thing that didn't gell with me in my S2 XJ was the biscuit interior which was three different shades of beige, I'd have much preferred red or black!
The contrasting blue interior in Luke's S1 XJ12 is lovely...
It is a lovely interior that makes the car. The red interior on my Daimler is also another favourite. A heather pink car like the one above is definitely on my list though, and I know of another one that got broken for parts in the last couple of years sadly. When I finally get around to my battered sable brown car I may put a green interior in it.The contrasting blue interior in Luke's S1 XJ12 is lovely...
Also had a Moroccan bronze S2 3.4 which was a really sweet little engine, and another favourite colour of mine for an XJ
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