Which classic car upto £15K
Discussion
quick guides to e types
series 1 1961-1967- covered headlights, small mouth on bonnet, polished cam covers, three windscreen wipers on all models, flick switches, starter button, two exhaust pipes under rear number plate
series 1.5 roughly july 67-68 unofficial designation which was due to jaguar slowly switching over to the series 2, all have uncovered lights and small bonnet opening, polished cam covers, some have tumbler switches on dash
series 2 1968-1970 uncovered lights, ribbed cam covers, bigger bonnet air intake, tumber switches, ignition via key on steering lock, seats now have head rests, better cooling, 2+2 windscreen base moved forward 2 inches to reduce angle, now has two windscreen wipers
series 3 1970-1975 ( 74 for 2+2) v12, even bigger air intake, now with grill covering it, flared wheel arches
the 2+2 also comes in auto
the series 3 and series 1 are the most popular and hence most expensive but keep thier value best, the great thing if you're buying a 2+2 is that as they're considered the ugly one of the e types and because the e type market is so thin, you can negotiate a big chunk off what they're asking and getting a good series 1 2+2 for 15k is easily possible
do you really need the rear seats, because if not maybe you should consider a fixed head coupeit will cost you another 3k but will keep it's value and be easier to sell at the end of it, and looks better
the other thing is what about a mark 2 3.8 jag
places to look are the jaguar enthusiasts club or the jaguar drivers club, but if you're serious drop me an email and we'll talk on the phone
pk
series 1 1961-1967- covered headlights, small mouth on bonnet, polished cam covers, three windscreen wipers on all models, flick switches, starter button, two exhaust pipes under rear number plate
series 1.5 roughly july 67-68 unofficial designation which was due to jaguar slowly switching over to the series 2, all have uncovered lights and small bonnet opening, polished cam covers, some have tumbler switches on dash
series 2 1968-1970 uncovered lights, ribbed cam covers, bigger bonnet air intake, tumber switches, ignition via key on steering lock, seats now have head rests, better cooling, 2+2 windscreen base moved forward 2 inches to reduce angle, now has two windscreen wipers
series 3 1970-1975 ( 74 for 2+2) v12, even bigger air intake, now with grill covering it, flared wheel arches
the 2+2 also comes in auto
the series 3 and series 1 are the most popular and hence most expensive but keep thier value best, the great thing if you're buying a 2+2 is that as they're considered the ugly one of the e types and because the e type market is so thin, you can negotiate a big chunk off what they're asking and getting a good series 1 2+2 for 15k is easily possible
do you really need the rear seats, because if not maybe you should consider a fixed head coupeit will cost you another 3k but will keep it's value and be easier to sell at the end of it, and looks better
the other thing is what about a mark 2 3.8 jag
places to look are the jaguar enthusiasts club or the jaguar drivers club, but if you're serious drop me an email and we'll talk on the phone
pk
piquet said:
you shouldn't need to clone your no claims for classic car insurance, classic car insurance doesn't have no claims ( i really have no idea how that works, but that's what the people who have insured both the e types have told me) the 2+2 insured for 18k unlimited milage and with european breakdown recovery was £220 a year, the roadster i have now which is insured for 60k is £300
But this is the problem, this won't be on a classic car policy as it will be an everyday company car, so therefore not agreed value, and hence at a risk in terms of loosing your investment...????
Classic car policies don't have no claims as the premium is based on the agreed value of the car with a nominal fee included for driver coverage based on the fact that it is not your everyday mode of transport, something you normally have to declare when taking out the policy. Well that was the case on all my classic policies over the past 20 odd years...
I agree a early ish 911 would make a fab daily car, couldn`t say the same for a old 3.0 CSL. The CSL would be way to fargile...they rust like no other car and finding a good one isnt easy. A 3.0 CSI would be a beter bet......but not as good as a late 70`s early 80`s 911 if you had to use it in Rain, shine and snow.The running costs for a E9 CSL would also be a lot more than for a 911.
marc
marc
If I could get a series 1 2+2 for £15k that would be the one!
The coupe is not an option Paul as it has be less than £15k for Inland Revenue rules. And the 2+2 will come in handy for the family.
You also say the other models keep the value better-I was expected all of the e-types to hold the value. The depreciation has been done! But I guess if you put miles on them you can't expect the value to remain the same.
The coupe is not an option Paul as it has be less than £15k for Inland Revenue rules. And the 2+2 will come in handy for the family.
You also say the other models keep the value better-I was expected all of the e-types to hold the value. The depreciation has been done! But I guess if you put miles on them you can't expect the value to remain the same.
I'd vote for the 911 if you really have to have back seats. Otherwise how about a good E-type coupe?
Personally I really like the E type but don't much like the 2+2, it spoils the lines IMHO.
Not sure why you nixed the 6-er. Probably cost too much new - otherwise they are really a damn decent car...
But I think the 911 - and I'm not certain which year/model - but get the right one, and you won't regret it. And if you decide you don't want it anymore, you can sell on and get most all your money back, or if you really choose wisely and sell well maybe a profit..however a rusty one or one with a bad engine would be a nightmare..
Personally I really like the E type but don't much like the 2+2, it spoils the lines IMHO.
Not sure why you nixed the 6-er. Probably cost too much new - otherwise they are really a damn decent car...
But I think the 911 - and I'm not certain which year/model - but get the right one, and you won't regret it. And if you decide you don't want it anymore, you can sell on and get most all your money back, or if you really choose wisely and sell well maybe a profit..however a rusty one or one with a bad engine would be a nightmare..
danhay said:
Dinkel, since you are PH's resident expert on rare/unloved exotica, could you please tell me which DeTomaso this is? It looks to me like a 308 GT4 with 4 doors!
Easy tiger, there is more than one expert on all things Italian and more importantly cars of Argentina / Italian / American origin, when it comes to DeTomaso I am your man or at least one of them!!
The gem in question is of course none other than my very special subject a Deauville.
Without wanting to bore everybody to death once again on these beasties there are a few threads on the board perpetrated by my good self and will soon start a photographic journal of my own cars journey to concourse standard.
The car was styled by Tom Tjaarda for Ghia and despite suggestions to the opposite; a Deauville does not look as much like a Series I XJ6 as certain classic car magazines have suggested.
There are possibly only five left in the UK in running order with a couple of other known project cars in existence as well although another two possible sightings have been heard about during the last couple of months.
Any other questions would of course be a pleasure
Greenie said:
The price has to be upto £15k
Have 4 seats (2plus2 is fine)
Quick 0-60 sub 7.5 secs
Decent reputation for reliability (I realise it is an old car and won't be 100% reliable!)
Looks classically good
Initial purchase price new less than £4k
Can be modified easily to improve performance (good network of specialist garages)
What about a Chrysler engined Bristol? - meets all the above except initial purchase price - I've seen 410,411 and 412 models around £15K
greenie said:
OK short list is:
Elan plus2
Fiat Dino
E Type 2 2+2
Porsche 911s
I can thoroughly recommend a 911, I had a 1972 911 quite a few years ago now and I loved it. It did cost a fair bit to service, but I think I was conned by the service agent, it was basically completely reliable and a fabulous car. There aren't that many RHD version though
1972 Bristol 411 S3
I wish I could say that this ticks all the boxes but I think it was mre than £4,000 new. Even so, it has 4 seats, decent performance (the figures I have suggest 60 in 7 seconds), good spares availability and if I could afford the buy it now price I'd have bought it.
I wish I could say that this ticks all the boxes but I think it was mre than £4,000 new. Even so, it has 4 seats, decent performance (the figures I have suggest 60 in 7 seconds), good spares availability and if I could afford the buy it now price I'd have bought it.
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