Which classic car upto £15K

[piquet]

if you're thinking of a e type 2+2 get a series 1 much prettier with the covered headlights, in 2+2 form they ran from 1966-1967 and with a bot of shopping around you should be able to get a good one for 15k, although you will be able to get a better series 1.5 or 2 for the same money. I used to have one, spacious inside, easy to maintain and reliable, you can upgrade anything you like on them, loads of spares, email me if you want more details

you shouldn't need to clone your no claims for classic car insurance, classic car insurance doesn't have no claims ( i really have no idea how that works, but that's what the people who have insured both the e types have told me) the 2+2 insured for 18k unlimited milage and with european breakdown recovery was £220 a year, the roadster i have now which is insured for 60k is £300

my only caveat with the e type is this, once they're in your blood they're very hard to give up

pk

ps the new price was about 2.5k

[greenie]

Thanks for that. Didn't realise you could get a series 1 for £15k.

What other differences are there between the two?

As you're an owner how is the best way to find a car. Do you have a web site or publication that you could recommend. Nice e-type by the way!

What do think of this one-2nd one down from Black & White

http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/cars_search.asp

Seems cheap for a V12.

[dinkel]

Those V12s aren't that expensive. A boss had one: Vette box and rear axle . . . dunno. Never liked the ride.

Hey, you can always try. Good luck, but an S1 6pot for me all the time.

[Davel]

911 SC Targa or Dino 308 GT4?

Had both and they were pretty reliable and fun to run.

Loved the sound of the Dino!

[piquet]

quick guides to e types

series 1 1961-1967- covered headlights, small mouth on bonnet, polished cam covers, three windscreen wipers on all models, flick switches, starter button, two exhaust pipes under rear number plate

series 1.5 roughly july 67-68 unofficial designation which was due to jaguar slowly switching over to the series 2, all have uncovered lights and small bonnet opening, polished cam covers, some have tumbler switches on dash

series 2 1968-1970 uncovered lights, ribbed cam covers, bigger bonnet air intake, tumber switches, ignition via key on steering lock, seats now have head rests, better cooling, 2+2 windscreen base moved forward 2 inches to reduce angle, now has two windscreen wipers

series 3 1970-1975 ( 74 for 2+2) v12, even bigger air intake, now with grill covering it, flared wheel arches

the 2+2 also comes in auto

the series 3 and series 1 are the most popular and hence most expensive but keep thier value best, the great thing if you're buying a 2+2 is that as they're considered the ugly one of the e types and because the e type market is so thin, you can negotiate a big chunk off what they're asking and getting a good series 1 2+2 for 15k is easily possible

do you really need the rear seats, because if not maybe you should consider a fixed head coupeit will cost you another 3k but will keep it's value and be easier to sell at the end of it, and looks better

the other thing is what about a mark 2 3.8 jag

places to look are the jaguar enthusiasts club or the jaguar drivers club, but if you're serious drop me an email and we'll talk on the phone

pk

[aeropilot]

piquet said:

you shouldn't need to clone your no claims for classic car insurance, classic car insurance doesn't have no claims ( i really have no idea how that works, but that's what the people who have insured both the e types have told me) the 2+2 insured for 18k unlimited milage and with european breakdown recovery was £220 a year, the roadster i have now which is insured for 60k is £300

But this is the problem, this won't be on a classic car policy as it will be an everyday company car, so therefore not agreed value, and hence at a risk in terms of loosing your investment...????

Classic car policies don't have no claims as the premium is based on the agreed value of the car with a nominal fee included for driver coverage based on the fact that it is not your everyday mode of transport, something you normally have to declare when taking out the policy. Well that was the case on all my classic policies over the past 20 odd years...

[m.lovell]

I agree a early ish 911 would make a fab daily car, couldn`t say the same for a old 3.0 CSL. The CSL would be way to fargile...they rust like no other car and finding a good one isnt easy. A 3.0 CSI would be a beter bet......but not as good as a late 70`s early 80`s 911 if you had to use it in Rain, shine and snow.The running costs for a E9 CSL would also be a lot more than for a 911.

marc

[greenie]

If I could get a series 1 2+2 for £15k that would be the one!

The coupe is not an option Paul as it has be less than £15k for Inland Revenue rules. And the 2+2 will come in handy for the family.

You also say the other models keep the value better-I was expected all of the e-types to hold the value. The depreciation has been done! But I guess if you put miles on them you can't expect the value to remain the same.

[Davel]

I think that you'd find a 911 a better everday car!

I love the E-Type but wouldn't use one in the winter personally.

[biggbn]

ferrari 400, citroen sm, alfa montreal, jensen interceptor or any number of hot 60's yanks!!

[M3 Mitch]

I'd vote for the 911 if you really have to have back seats. Otherwise how about a good E-type coupe?

Personally I really like the E type but don't much like the 2+2, it spoils the lines IMHO.

Not sure why you nixed the 6-er. Probably cost too much new - otherwise they are really a damn decent car...

But I think the 911 - and I'm not certain which year/model - but get the right one, and you won't regret it. And if you decide you don't want it anymore, you can sell on and get most all your money back, or if you really choose wisely and sell well maybe a profit..however a rusty one or one with a bad engine would be a nightmare..

[danhay]

dinkel said:

Dinkel, since you are PH's resident expert on rare/unloved exotica, could you please tell me which DeTomaso this is? It looks to me like a 308 GT4 with 4 doors!

[stainless_steve]

Escort,m1 or 2 RS 2000 ,great car,can easly be upgraded

[vario-rob]

danhay said:

Dinkel, since you are PH's resident expert on rare/unloved exotica, could you please tell me which DeTomaso this is? It looks to me like a 308 GT4 with 4 doors!

Easy tiger, there is more than one expert on all things Italian and more importantly cars of Argentina / Italian / American origin, when it comes to DeTomaso I am your man or at least one of them!!

The gem in question is of course none other than my very special subject a Deauville.

Without wanting to bore everybody to death once again on these beasties there are a few threads on the board perpetrated by my good self and will soon start a photographic journal of my own cars journey to concourse standard.

The car was styled by Tom Tjaarda for Ghia and despite suggestions to the opposite; a Deauville does not look as much like a Series I XJ6 as certain classic car magazines have suggested.

There are possibly only five left in the UK in running order with a couple of other known project cars in existence as well although another two possible sightings have been heard about during the last couple of months.

Any other questions would of course be a pleasure

[francis mcquaid]

[m3pilot]

don't think you'd get much of a series 1 or 3 e-type for £15K. You'll prob get a better car is you look at series 1.5 or 2. Personally I'd rather have an XK150 FHC

[Prof Beard]

Greenie said:

The price has to be upto £15k Have 4 seats (2plus2 is fine) Quick 0-60 sub 7.5 secs Decent reputation for reliability (I realise it is an old car and won't be 100% reliable!) Looks classically good Initial purchase price new less than £4k Can be modified easily to improve performance (good network of specialist garages)

What about a Chrysler engined Bristol? - meets all the above except initial purchase price - I've seen 410,411 and 412 models around £15K

[singh911]

Go for a 911 or 356.

You can get a good 3.2 Carrera circa 1988 for that money. Bags of character, one of the most durable 911s built from the overengineered era.

Cheers

[Andrew Noakes]

1988 911 Carrera, original list price £37,086. Doesn't really meet the required spec!

Greenie said:

Initial purchase price new less than £4k

[JRM]

greenie said:

OK short list is: Elan plus2 Fiat Dino E Type 2 2+2 Porsche 911s

I can thoroughly recommend a 911, I had a 1972 911 quite a few years ago now and I loved it. It did cost a fair bit to service, but I think I was conned by the service agent, it was basically completely reliable and a fabulous car. There aren't that many RHD version though