How about a 'period' classics pictures thread

How about a 'period' classics pictures thread

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Flying Phil

1,585 posts

145 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Picture taken in 1976 I think, again showing my Frogeye but also my much loved Alfasud "L" 1186cc 4 speed (PUR 202 R). This was bought SH from the Bedford Alfa dealer.
The Sud was bought because I had, the year before, acquired a straight six 2.6 litre Alfa engine which we (KMB Autosport - Mike Smith) built a chassis for to go Comp Altered drag racing. This had the fibreglass front and rear panels from my Junior Modified drag racing Sprite as a "flip up" bodyshell. This is the other car in the picture.
Ironically I still have my Mk 1 frogeye, the Fibreglass front and rear are on my V8 Sprite - and I have a six cylinder (But 3 litre 24V V6) in an Alfasud Sprint! Some things have changed very little it seems......

Edited by Flying Phil on Friday 4th May 09:28

RESSE

5,699 posts

221 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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garyfrogeye said:
Many thanks RESSE,
My tired old eyes can't make out the registration numbers. Can you tell from your images?

Gary
Sorry Gary - I cannot make out the registration numbers. The photos are scans of good old fashioned 35mm pictures.

W124Bob

1,745 posts

175 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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This is from the Phyllis Nicklin collection,if you knew Birmingham in the 50's&60's this I'm sure will bring back memories.Dulverton Road,Whitton is just one of 100's in the collection,she worked at the uni at the time.http://www.pbase.com/beppuu/pnicklin

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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W124Bob said:
This is from the Phyllis Nicklin collection,if you knew Birmingham in the 50's&60's this I'm sure will bring back memories.Dulverton Road,Whitton is just one of 100's in the collection,she worked at the uni at the time.http://www.pbase.com/beppuu/pnicklin
What's so noticable about that picture is that every car is British built, Morris Minors and Minis, Ford Cortinas, Anglia, Popular and what looks like a Zephyr. And, Birmingham was obviously manufacturing stuff. How times change and we wonder why there are no jobs and the economy is st!

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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RichB said:
W124Bob said:
This is from the Phyllis Nicklin collection,if you knew Birmingham in the 50's&60's this I'm sure will bring back memories.Dulverton Road,Whitton is just one of 100's in the collection,she worked at the uni at the time.http://www.pbase.com/beppuu/pnicklin
What's so noticable about that picture is that every car is British built, Morris Minors and Minis, Ford Cortinas, Anglia, Popular and what looks like a Zephyr. And, Birmingham was obviously manufacturing stuff. How times change and we wonder why there are no jobs and the economy is st!
Also note how some of the cars are only a few years old and are rusty heaps!

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I can't see any rusty heaps and the only car I can specifically date is the F-reg Mini which must be a 68 but if that's the impression the picture gives so be it.

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Perhaps a closer look at the first mini on the right is in order..... wink

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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The one with the red roof and red front valence, how old is it? 61-62? One can't tell but with outside hinges it's an early Mini so probably 6 or 7 years old in that picture. Next...

Edited by RichB on Saturday 5th May 09:24

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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RichB said:
The one with the red roof and red front valence, how old is it? 61-62? One can't tell but with outside hinges it's an early Mini so probably 6 or 7 years old in that picture. Next...

Edited by RichB on Saturday 5th May 09:24
Or it may be only a couple of years old.....Next!

RichB

51,565 posts

284 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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I honestly can't be bothered, it's a street full of British cars of which one, 'might' be a couple of years old but probably more and 'might' have some rust down it's door shut face and the owner might have painted the front red to match the roof. tongue out

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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This is from '68
(Cowcaddens tram depot Glasgow, found on facebook)
look how rusty that Mk II is

HQB

168 posts

150 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Oh dear...fierce words on here but maybe I can help with that Mini. The colour tells me that it is a 1962 model year Morris Mini Minor Deluxe (it would have been Speedwell blue before that and it is certainly not that because the early colour was noticeably more blue rather than the grey based '62 colour). The red roof and front valence are not standard so the owner must have been to Halfords and got a few spray cans. I would not say that (or any other) cars in the picture looked rusty but the Mini doors look to have dirt streaks below the door lock and the two door hinges which may well have been showing through at 7/8 years old. If you were looking for rust though, my guess is that the 1955/6 Minor probably had a few bubbles and the regular door split just below the quarter-light.

Turning to the later picture with the bubbly Zodiac, I can definitely confirm that in those days, a 2/3 year old example of the Ford or a Vauxhall Wyvern, Velox or Cresta would be very capable of bubbling through the door bottoms in that time! My father fixed enough of them in period! In fact very many that had the sort of bored neglect meted out to most cars these days were rolling in to the local scrapyard at 5/6 years old or even less.

You youngsters don't realise just how poor most cars were protected from rust at that time...you may smile with feigned interest at a 1959 Vauxhall Victor but the thing has had a very charmed life to be around now! drivingtype

HQB

168 posts

150 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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P.S. The Zodiac is a 1957/8 model so was around 10/11 years old at the time so doing rather well in fact!!smilesmilesmile

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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I suppose, you can see similar aged E-class Mercs nowadays in similar states

eccles

13,733 posts

222 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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HQB said:
may well have been showing through at 7/8 years old.
In my experience most Mini's at 7 or 8 years old were absolutely rotten unless they were kept garaged and polished and only driven on sunny days!
I have vivid memories of having to put my feet on the rear seat on wet days so they didn't get wet because of the holes in the floor in a four year old (Mk 1) mini when I was growing up.

DickyC

49,729 posts

198 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Rotten cars? My dad's first company car was a 1965 Victor 101 which, I believe I'm right in saying, was Vauxhall's frst adventure into "Planned obselescence". When I was checking the old fella's cars on TfL, FLN 618C still exists!

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Pictures of it from the time however I cannot find.

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radlet6

736 posts

174 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Hugo a Gogo said:
I suppose, you can see similar aged E-class Mercs nowadays in similar states
I don't think so. Back in the sixties you were lucky if you average car managed 10 years old before heading for the crusher; remember the mkiv zodiacs - aka the Dagenham Dustbin - the front suspension struts could rot through within 4 years.

Take a good look at your typical '52 reg car today.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,254 posts

235 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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yes At 60,000 miles in olden days cars were at end of expected life.

roscobbc

3,348 posts

242 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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This was a 1960 Zephyr 6 - my second car owned in 1968 - unusually it had a 6 branch exhaust manifold (aka header) rather than the stock scaffold tube - it did sound rather nice! - so this was 8 years old and although a smart car had significant fibre glass repairs to bottoms of front and rear wings and doors.

Pat H

8,056 posts

256 months

Saturday 5th May 2012
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Yep.

I've owned eight Minis.

If kept outdoors and used every day, a Mini could be rotten in no time at all. Two or three bad winters would make most of them look pretty scabby.

Oversills, fibreglassed floors and plated subframes were the order of the day.

Fantastic cars, but absurdly prone to rot. But so were Fords, Lancias, Alfas, Citroens and just about any other car you might care to mention.

The prospect of 100,000 miles was just a pipe dream. 50,000 miles would see most cars into the Autumn of their life.

But then again, cars were simple and were easy to fix, unlike today's electronic horrors. It was a pretty fair trade off in my view.

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