Jaguar C Types?
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[quote=Doofus]So what is there to choose between the various C type replicas/recreations (Proteus, Lynx, Racing Green, Suffolk, CJR, TWR etc)? Most of them claim to be dimensionally perfect; suspension and engine options vary, but which a) the most historically accurate, and b) the one to have (for someone to whom FIA acceptance isn't a consideration)?
Hi Doofus and all, try Legends Classics Ltd in Hereford, they build great all aluminium cars, with 4.2 XK 5 speed box all but a few inches wider a great alternative to the failed Proteus Cars Ltd, probably the best C Type I have seen for sometime, I went along after finding their website Legendsclassics.com they were very helpful informative guys with great passion, they build hand rolled cars the old way! and the paint job is second to none well worth a visit, they dont seem to advertise in the glossies as they tick over nicely by word of mouth. not sure if they sell kit form though, I never asked!! cheers Gussie will dig out some photos I have and post them as soon as I have a minute.
Hi Doofus and all, try Legends Classics Ltd in Hereford, they build great all aluminium cars, with 4.2 XK 5 speed box all but a few inches wider a great alternative to the failed Proteus Cars Ltd, probably the best C Type I have seen for sometime, I went along after finding their website Legendsclassics.com they were very helpful informative guys with great passion, they build hand rolled cars the old way! and the paint job is second to none well worth a visit, they dont seem to advertise in the glossies as they tick over nicely by word of mouth. not sure if they sell kit form though, I never asked!! cheers Gussie will dig out some photos I have and post them as soon as I have a minute.
Thanks for the great comments ! Basically I was asked to produce a set of fibreglass bucks so ally bodies could be copied from it . I was given a new ally body (to all original dimensions and shape )to make the moulds from and was given permission to make a body for myself . I added a passenger door and mildly modified the body to go onto a donor chassis I had bought from ebay . I extended the cockpit for more legroom and made other mods to make the car more useable ( like hinged backend for luggage space ) It has currently got a volvo turbo engine with overdrive box but uses the jag solid axle . Many engines will fit but I will probably change it for an XK in the future. 
[quote=plasticman]Thanks for the great comments ! Basically I was asked to produce a set of fibreglass bucks so ally bodies could be copied from it . I was given a new ally body (to all original dimensions and shape )to make the moulds from and was given permission to make a body for myself . I added a passenger door and mildly modified the body to go onto a donor chassis I had bought from ebay . I extended the cockpit for more legroom and made other mods to make the car more useable ( like hinged backend for luggage space ) It has currently got a volvo turbo engine with overdrive box but uses the jag solid axle . Many engines will fit but I will probably change it for an XK in the future/quote]
Hi plasticman, Clearly you’re very talented. I’m rather passionate about body fabrication even if totally useless at it… and can appreciate the work that’s gone into a “home built” body.
More pixs / details are very welcome.
regards
Hi plasticman, Clearly you’re very talented. I’m rather passionate about body fabrication even if totally useless at it… and can appreciate the work that’s gone into a “home built” body.
More pixs / details are very welcome.
regards
Holy thread resurrection....etc....
Just thought I'd get that out the way.
So my mind has been drifting lately between buying a decent Series 2 E type or buying or building a C type replica.
As was said earlier in the thread back in 2010, and answered I know, there seem to be loads of C type reps about, but which are decent quality and which are frankly a bit rough?
I love the idea of building one, I enjoy the build as much as the drive to be honest, and I was just wondering if the situation has changed in the last 3 years?
I've had not great experiences with a Porsche 550 Spyder replica by Beck, somehow I always felt a fake, and I got rid after just 6 weeks, so maybe a real E type or even XK OTS would be a better bet for me?
All thoughts / opinions appreciated.
Just thought I'd get that out the way.
So my mind has been drifting lately between buying a decent Series 2 E type or buying or building a C type replica.
As was said earlier in the thread back in 2010, and answered I know, there seem to be loads of C type reps about, but which are decent quality and which are frankly a bit rough?
I love the idea of building one, I enjoy the build as much as the drive to be honest, and I was just wondering if the situation has changed in the last 3 years?
I've had not great experiences with a Porsche 550 Spyder replica by Beck, somehow I always felt a fake, and I got rid after just 6 weeks, so maybe a real E type or even XK OTS would be a better bet for me?
All thoughts / opinions appreciated.
arn22110 said:
Looking at the posting from Lax Power on page 2, how did he get the XJ 6 engine to look like the XK Engine (chromed cam covers?
I'm in the process now. I'm stripping a Series 3 and hopefully ending up with a reasonable facsimile of an original D type engine. I'll be swapping cam covers, chucking on some Webers and adding an oil catcher. It's all available new or second hand. I briefly considered adding dry sump but it is only going to be a lookalike for fast road use, so I can't justify the added expense. I went with the Series 3 because of it's bigger inlet valves to suit the Webers (and because it was an available runner!) but you do need to strip out all the EFI kit - I'll let you know at the end if this was a mistake or not. Don't hold your breath though, I've got miles to go yet.lowdrag said:
But PLEASE, PLEASE, do not stick those ugly red C-type badges on your cam covers. It is the clearest giveaway that it is a replica and not a real C-type. Those badges were used to denote a hotter engine on production cars, not race cars.
The red head paint and C-Type engine badges are only correct on XK140s. The hotter XK120 didn't have them, the XK150 had the "B" type head as standard, same power but at lower revs and a better torque spread. The hotter XK150s are the "S" and they have pumpkin coloured head paint.So with the head colours Tony, did the E-Type start off with the pumpkin colour and if so I'm intrigued as to when it switched to gold.
Pumpkin is the answer, if I remember what pumpkin looks like correctly. Dark gold would be another way of putting it. It was the same head and porting as the 150S so it just followed on. Oh, and don't forget that any car that wore the "M" connotation had the C-type badges, including for example the 120M, 140M and Mk VIIM. They had about 20bhp over the standard engine.
lowdrag said:
Pumpkin is the answer, if I remember what pumpkin looks like correctly. Dark gold would be another way of putting it. It was the same head and porting as the 150S so it just followed on. Oh, and don't forget that any car that wore the "M" connotation had the C-type badges, including for example the 120M, 140M and Mk VIIM. They had about 20bhp over the standard engine.
I'll happily bow to you knowledge of MkVIIs as I know next to nothing about them."M" was a US designation, "M" being short of "Modified", these were cars to Special Equipment specification, normally referred to as "SE" models. The SE variant of the 120 was introduce at the same time as the 120FHC. The carry an S prefix to their chassis numbers and for the 120 an S suffix to their engine numbers. The earliest XK140SEs fitted with C type heads continued to have plain metal heads, but only the first few, I don't know of a date when they switched to painting them red. The factory build records indicate that from the 5th October 1954 the
JAGUAR
TYPE C
badge was fitted, with the cam covers being drilled to accept the badge. Again with the earliest of these cars having the badges unpainted before they too switched to having the background painted matching red.
For the XK150 there are no records of any non SE or S spec production cars. There is a memo on the files from the factory to the marketing department asking for details of specification of a "standard" XK150, but no recorded reply.
The XK150S, both 3.4 and 3.8 have the heads painted "Old Gold" according to Jaguar, but the colour is a pumpkin orange and the best modern match is believed to be Ford Autumn Orange 1497A81 (OK, I'm reading that bit from a book)
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