XK120 banger racing!
Discussion
Camaro91 said:
The owner of the XK150 is under no obligation whatsoever to sell any of the parts - no matter what people offer him, because it is his property - exercising this right does not make him some kind of criminal.
If this was the last XK150 on the planet I'm sure it would be a shame but there will be plenty of examples gleaming away in people's garages waiting for the next dry day to be driven, at least this one is getting some semblance of use.
Some of the snobbery on here is amazing.
Finally! A reasonable man!If this was the last XK150 on the planet I'm sure it would be a shame but there will be plenty of examples gleaming away in people's garages waiting for the next dry day to be driven, at least this one is getting some semblance of use.
Some of the snobbery on here is amazing.
MX7 said:
cjgreaves41 said:
MX7 said:
cjgreaves41 said:
XModern race cars will one day be 'classics' but they are still raced, and still get beat up! This is a shame regardless of age, but no one could argue that they shoudlnt be raced.
'Raced' isn't the same as destroyed, which is the aim of banger racing.Personqally, I am just grateful that the car has had three lives, first as a gleaming sportscar in the day, ageing disgracefully until the owner insisted that the roof be cut off so the car would be scrapped, then it lived again to race, and now is to be rebuilt to her former glory. Guess the original owner as far as this thread is concerned would be wailing and gnashing his teeth if he/she knew. I am now looking forward with interest to following this thread over the next year or so.
I suppose the irony is that whether you agree with banger racing classics or not this particular XK120 would not have been saved if it had not been for the banger racing fraternity.
The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
bigblock said:
I suppose the irony is that whether you agree with banger racing classics or not this particular XK120 would not have been saved if it had not been for the banger racing fraternity.
The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
Well said!The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
cjgreaves41 said:
bigblock said:
I suppose the irony is that whether you agree with banger racing classics or not this particular XK120 would not have been saved if it had not been for the banger racing fraternity.
The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
Well said!The original owner sold it on the condition it was to be destroyed. The purchasers did not destroy it and decided to banger race it. It was then offered for sale again and the current owner is going to restore it to its former glory.
Seems like a happy ending to me.
a8hex said:
...but there have been cases where people have had their much loved classics stolen and subsequently destroyed in the ring.
Perhaps checks are need before a car can be entered, its ID should need to be checked, cars with no ID should raise suspicion. If you are the registered keeper of a car I thought you were legally obliged to tell the DVLA if the car was sold or scrapped. Can there be a legitimate reason to deliberately remove all traces of the ID from a car?
If I remember correctly, this car had no ID either - now that the new Perhaps checks are need before a car can be entered, its ID should need to be checked, cars with no ID should raise suspicion. If you are the registered keeper of a car I thought you were legally obliged to tell the DVLA if the car was sold or scrapped. Can there be a legitimate reason to deliberately remove all traces of the ID from a car?
XKman said:
Thanks Ken. I forgot to mention that with the help of some experts in the XK club we have discovered the chassis number of the car which matches in the Jaguar records with the body number and gearbox number. The car was made in February 1958 and was originally grey with blue trim.
For some reason one of the pictures, showing the rear end damage, didn't attach the other day so hopefully it does this time.
It will take quite some work though to get it back to anywhere near where it was before it was bangered..For some reason one of the pictures, showing the rear end damage, didn't attach the other day so hopefully it does this time.
Theoldfm said:
a8hex said:
...but there have been cases where people have had their much loved classics stolen and subsequently destroyed in the ring.
Perhaps checks are need before a car can be entered, its ID should need to be checked, cars with no ID should raise suspicion. If you are the registered keeper of a car I thought you were legally obliged to tell the DVLA if the car was sold or scrapped. Can there be a legitimate reason to deliberately remove all traces of the ID from a car?
If I remember correctly, this car had no ID either - now that the new Perhaps checks are need before a car can be entered, its ID should need to be checked, cars with no ID should raise suspicion. If you are the registered keeper of a car I thought you were legally obliged to tell the DVLA if the car was sold or scrapped. Can there be a legitimate reason to deliberately remove all traces of the ID from a car?
I believe that the car was unknown to the XK community. I've not heard whether the main UK collector of XK histories has anything more on the car from further back, he seems to have been logging all sighting for XKs for ever but there is no recent history. The previous owner doesn't seem to have been in one of the Jaguar clubs or contacted them about the car. I suspect that the next issue of the XK Gazette will have some more information.
I am finding out more about the car. I now know the original registration which was rather nice - NCT 1, but unfortunately that was sold prior to the mid-eighties, (now on a Mitsubishi Shogun), and 1515 DU assigned to the car. I also know the name of the original owner and the owner in the eighties. It was also taxed up until 2000. I am following up these leads but who knows what I will find, so it is with some trepidation.
Attached is a picture of one of the doors I have bought for the restoration. These cost £200 each and are fairly good for XK doors which often need a complete new outer skin. These just need new bottom sections. I also got window frames and some trim panels with the doors but the frames are for a drophead so I am hoping to swop them for fixedhead frames. I already have a friend after the drophead frames as these are quite rare as quite a few XK 150 fixed heads were converted to dropheads.
Apart from keeping an eye open for other parts that I need, there will be little progress to report for some time. If there is anything exciting to tell you I will post it here.
Attached is a picture of one of the doors I have bought for the restoration. These cost £200 each and are fairly good for XK doors which often need a complete new outer skin. These just need new bottom sections. I also got window frames and some trim panels with the doors but the frames are for a drophead so I am hoping to swop them for fixedhead frames. I already have a friend after the drophead frames as these are quite rare as quite a few XK 150 fixed heads were converted to dropheads.
Apart from keeping an eye open for other parts that I need, there will be little progress to report for some time. If there is anything exciting to tell you I will post it here.
[quote=XKman]Couple of pictures attached of when I bought the car. 
I notice this is outside an MOT station, i am not sure it will pass without a bit of work
If it is of any use to you, i can lay my hands on an original 58/59 radio, came out of my old mans XX 150.
I would have to double check ,but i think their is a rear screen in the loft of the workshop aswell.
Let me know if it is of any use to you.
I notice this is outside an MOT station, i am not sure it will pass without a bit of work
If it is of any use to you, i can lay my hands on an original 58/59 radio, came out of my old mans XX 150.
I would have to double check ,but i think their is a rear screen in the loft of the workshop aswell.
Let me know if it is of any use to you.
Hi Jeff, apologies, but with Christmas etc, only just read your message. I would be interested in the radio and rear screen. Email me if they are available. Thanks, Mike.
Nothing much else to report on the restoration front. Have bought a few more parts and ordered a new rear end to be built. Received the Heritage certificate from Jaguar and written to DVLA to try and get a registration document, but no reply yet, nor from the owner in the eighties.
The plan is to get my XK140 body finished and off to the paint shop and whilst it is away I will start cutting the old rear end off the 150, plus the welded on doors etc. I can then more easily assess what is required. I will post photos when I get to this stage, which I envisage being around April/May.
Nothing much else to report on the restoration front. Have bought a few more parts and ordered a new rear end to be built. Received the Heritage certificate from Jaguar and written to DVLA to try and get a registration document, but no reply yet, nor from the owner in the eighties.
The plan is to get my XK140 body finished and off to the paint shop and whilst it is away I will start cutting the old rear end off the 150, plus the welded on doors etc. I can then more easily assess what is required. I will post photos when I get to this stage, which I envisage being around April/May.
if you've not done alreaDY, send a fiver to DVLA vehicle enquirey unit and they'll send you copies of all the old V5's they know (if any).
"...Enquiries by post
You’ll need to fill in a ‘Request for information’ (V888) form if you want information about:
•another vehicle’s keeper details – the fee for this is £2.50
•previous keepers for a vehicle now registered in your name – the fee for this is £5.00
...."
"...Enquiries by post
You’ll need to fill in a ‘Request for information’ (V888) form if you want information about:
•another vehicle’s keeper details – the fee for this is £2.50
•previous keepers for a vehicle now registered in your name – the fee for this is £5.00
...."
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