MK1 3 Litre Capris, How Many Survive ?
Discussion
NHK244V said:
webasto was a seperate company not part of ford and loads of cars had these aftermarket sunroofs fitted at later dates ?
Correct webestao are a seperate company However if I am correct Ford fitted a full length sliding sunroof ( not webasto) to mark 1's I had one in a 3000 E circa 1972 ,
stand to be corrected
DBSV8 said:
However if I am correct Ford fitted a full length sliding sunroof ( not webasto) to mark 1's I had one in a 3000 E circa 1972 ,
stand to be corrected
A good friend of mine had a RS3100 with one fitted which isn't correct for a RS3100, but the car was restored back in the late 1980's using a mint 3000E shell that had the factory sunroof option.
Yes DBS , that is my GENUINE , Brands Hatch , May 28th 1972 , FordSports day car.
And Correct, none of the 16 cars in that race ( as far as my Extensive research has uncovered ) had a sunroof. A sliding Steel " GOLDE "? Sunroof was a 3000E and GT Expensive option.
She still the holes in the rear floor for the single roll over hoop and the crude fibreglass matting/Fireproofing of the rear bulkhead, that was fitted by Mike/John Youngs team @ SuperSpeed.
It was registered to Ford Warley, until March 73, we beleive it was given to a now deseased Wiggins Teape Senior Manager after the race as his Company car. Her first Owner was in Beckenham, Kent.
Re the vinle Sunroof, it was fitted some time after the race. A previous owner ( 1981-85 ) has confirmed ( with photos ) that it was fitted when he owned her.
One of those Awfull vinle sunroofs was the cause of a terrible high speed accident that i had in my first 3000GT. Many Mk1 3 Litres had them in the early 80s.
Dont really want to sell her, but other projects and a very severe motorcycle accident mean she has been pushed to the back of the que, but only serious money will buy her.
And Correct, none of the 16 cars in that race ( as far as my Extensive research has uncovered ) had a sunroof. A sliding Steel " GOLDE "? Sunroof was a 3000E and GT Expensive option.
She still the holes in the rear floor for the single roll over hoop and the crude fibreglass matting/Fireproofing of the rear bulkhead, that was fitted by Mike/John Youngs team @ SuperSpeed.
It was registered to Ford Warley, until March 73, we beleive it was given to a now deseased Wiggins Teape Senior Manager after the race as his Company car. Her first Owner was in Beckenham, Kent.
Re the vinle Sunroof, it was fitted some time after the race. A previous owner ( 1981-85 ) has confirmed ( with photos ) that it was fitted when he owned her.
One of those Awfull vinle sunroofs was the cause of a terrible high speed accident that i had in my first 3000GT. Many Mk1 3 Litres had them in the early 80s.
Dont really want to sell her, but other projects and a very severe motorcycle accident mean she has been pushed to the back of the que, but only serious money will buy her.
Edited by neutral 3 on Sunday 18th July 13:59
neutral 3 said:
Great pic, I may be wrong ,but pretty sure one of those (3 litre ?) Speed Worth capris is in the background to one of the Avon Tour films on You Tube, ? Where did you find the photo and Is it dated ?
I think from Custom Car Magazine (when it was interesting) around 1971-72 I would guess.Alan M
Edited by nalaeroom on Tuesday 18th January 20:27
Baie said:
Hey Guys,
I have decided that instead of getting a new car I want to get an old one, and have always loved the mk1 Capri. But old cars are kinda new to me so looking for advice. What should you look out for when buying a classic car? Is there anything specific to the Capri that I should check too?
Thanks guys.
good choice for a first car very easy to maintain , mk 1 capris came out in 1969 on a G plate and ended in 1974 on an N plate during this time the MK 2 overlapped.I have decided that instead of getting a new car I want to get an old one, and have always loved the mk1 Capri. But old cars are kinda new to me so looking for advice. What should you look out for when buying a classic car? Is there anything specific to the Capri that I should check too?
Thanks guys.
They are holding there values well now although not in the same way that MK1 escorts have rocketed
various diferent engine sizes from the 1300 ( underpowered and now very rare )
1600 OHV Kent later fitted with the Pinto OHC
2000 v4 ( very rare ) and OHC Pinto
3000 v6 early examples under powered later versions GXL had increaed BHP and hold values well .
check out for the tin worm , especially the sills , A posts , wheel arches , floor pan ,head gaskets creamy oil in filler cap ,
get a haynes manual on ebay and easy DIY
replacement parts are available and there is a huge Capri club scene , worth joining one ( local area )
good website for friendly advice
http://www.capripower.co.uk/forum/index.php?/forum...
I would look at either a 2 litre or 3 litre both will get the back out in the wet , 3 litre is a heavy old lump and be prepared for around 20mpg alternatively go for a mk3 Capri 2.8i more power and prices are much cheaper better fuel economy , for 2-3k you will get a nice example.
If its an every day driver, go for a September 84 on Injection Special, 5 speed box gives better motorway economy, nice half leather recaro trim and an L.S.Diff as well and far nicer wheels.
Forget the Brooklands model, over priced and over rated.
HOWEVER.......if its Noise and SIDE WAYS FUN your After and the Investment factor, it just has to be a MK1 3 Litre. Sept 72 ( K Reg ) cars had 138 bhp and far better gear ratios,
GXLs ( L-Reg, Sept 72 onwards ) are slightly more desireable, nicer gear change,( gear lever goes direct into the box ) quad head lamps, rear Anti Roll bar ( which does nothing )nicer dash board. However, many had the Optional Steel Slideing Sunroof, these cars can rot more than non sun roof cars, due to the drain channels blocking. You will also pay a price premium for a GXL . Many were Autos, not a problem as a fairly easy conversion to manual and an Auto will probably had a far easier life.
Forget the Brooklands model, over priced and over rated.
HOWEVER.......if its Noise and SIDE WAYS FUN your After and the Investment factor, it just has to be a MK1 3 Litre. Sept 72 ( K Reg ) cars had 138 bhp and far better gear ratios,
GXLs ( L-Reg, Sept 72 onwards ) are slightly more desireable, nicer gear change,( gear lever goes direct into the box ) quad head lamps, rear Anti Roll bar ( which does nothing )nicer dash board. However, many had the Optional Steel Slideing Sunroof, these cars can rot more than non sun roof cars, due to the drain channels blocking. You will also pay a price premium for a GXL . Many were Autos, not a problem as a fairly easy conversion to manual and an Auto will probably had a far easier life.
neutral 3 said:
If its an every day driver, go for a September 84 on Injection Special, 5 speed box gives better motorway economy, nice half leather recaro trim and an L.S.Diff as well and far nicer wheels.
Forget the Brooklands model, over priced and over rated.
HOWEVER.......if its Noise and SIDE WAYS FUN your After and the Investment factor, it just has to be a MK1 3 Litre. Sept 72 ( K Reg ) cars had 138 bhp and far better gear ratios,
GXLs ( L-Reg, Sept 72 onwards ) are slightly more desireable, nicer gear change,( gear lever goes direct into the box ) quad head lamps, rear Anti Roll bar ( which does nothing )nicer dash board. However, many had the Optional Steel Slideing Sunroof, these cars can rot more than non sun roof cars, due to the drain channels blocking. You will also pay a price premium for a GXL . Many were Autos, not a problem as a fairly easy conversion to manual and an Auto will probably had a far easier life.
I love this type of 'rivet counting' info. Top marks sir! Forget the Brooklands model, over priced and over rated.
HOWEVER.......if its Noise and SIDE WAYS FUN your After and the Investment factor, it just has to be a MK1 3 Litre. Sept 72 ( K Reg ) cars had 138 bhp and far better gear ratios,
GXLs ( L-Reg, Sept 72 onwards ) are slightly more desireable, nicer gear change,( gear lever goes direct into the box ) quad head lamps, rear Anti Roll bar ( which does nothing )nicer dash board. However, many had the Optional Steel Slideing Sunroof, these cars can rot more than non sun roof cars, due to the drain channels blocking. You will also pay a price premium for a GXL . Many were Autos, not a problem as a fairly easy conversion to manual and an Auto will probably had a far easier life.
Just rescued this 73 L-Reg 3000GXL.......Low mileage, Lovely interior and the body is pretty good too.
What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
Many GXLs were Autos, and most had the Steel slideing Sunroof. So This one would be ideal for a Race Car build.
Not much History yet, except that She was first registered in North West London and by 2005 was in Liverpool !
What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
Many GXLs were Autos, and most had the Steel slideing Sunroof. So This one would be ideal for a Race Car build.
Not much History yet, except that She was first registered in North West London and by 2005 was in Liverpool !
neutral 3 said:
Just rescued this 73 L-Reg 3000GXL.......Low mileage, Lovely interior and the body is pretty good too.
What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
Many GXLs were Autos, and most had the Steel slideing Sunroof. So This one would be ideal for a Race Car build.
Not much History yet, except that She was first registered in North West London and by 2005 was in Liverpool !
Oh god I want it SO much!What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
Many GXLs were Autos, and most had the Steel slideing Sunroof. So This one would be ideal for a Race Car build.
Not much History yet, except that She was first registered in North West London and by 2005 was in Liverpool !
neutral 3 said:
Just rescued this 73 L-Reg 3000GXL.......Low mileage, Lovely interior and the body is pretty good too.
What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
If it's original, then yes, that's a rare colour for a Capri. Can't say I can recall ever seeing a Mk1 in that colour...?What makes it interesting is that it is a Desireable 4 SPEED and NO SUNROOF VERSION and its in a Great Colour, Which i am still trying to remember the name of , Copper Bronze ? With a Tan Vinle roof.
It's not Copper Bronze Metallic (which is what the Sweeney Consul GT was for a reference) it looks more like Tawny Metallic.... but Tawny usually looks darker than that, so that's why I'm not 100% sure what colour that is...?
For reference this is Tawny Metallic
Yes AP you are right, the colour isn't Copper , but ime pretty sure it isn't /wasn't Tawny ? Have been told that Tawny was dropped for 73 ?
It's very hard to read , but the paint code appears to be S if that helps ?
Will try to get a Better look at her to see what the Orig colour was tomorrow .
It's very hard to read , but the paint code appears to be S if that helps ?
Will try to get a Better look at her to see what the Orig colour was tomorrow .
neutral 3 said:
Yes AP you are right, the colour isn't Copper , but ime pretty sure it isn't /wasn't Tawny ? Have been told that Tawny was dropped for 73 ?
That's true, Tawny was dropped for '73.Hmmmm...... memory cells are struggling now
Edit:
Paint code for Tawny Met was S as well, but yes it was deleted for '73.
Only other possiblity is Brown Satin which had a paint code S, but my info says that didn't appear till '76......?
So, err...... dunno
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 2nd February 21:05
She was first registered in June 73 L-Reg. And in the early 80s when they were common/ and i was allways on the look, i dont recall ever seeing a GXL in this colour. Unless The Orig Colour was Tawny ?
Was hopeing to get another look at her today to try to identify the orig Colour, but I havnt had a chance yet.
Was hopeing to get another look at her today to try to identify the orig Colour, but I havnt had a chance yet.
neutral 3 said:
She was first registered in June 73 L-Reg. And in the early 80s when they were common/ and i was allways on the look, i dont recall ever seeing a GXL in this colour. Unless The Orig Colour was Tawny ?
Was hopeing to get another look at her today to try to identify the orig Colour, but I havnt had a chance yet.
I would say with 99.5% certainty, that it was originally Tawny Metallic.Was hopeing to get another look at her today to try to identify the orig Colour, but I havnt had a chance yet.
Tawny Met had the paint code S, and I've just done a bit of digging through my collection of old Ford s
t from yonks ago, and found a Ford Colour Chart for all models dated, effective from Sept 1973..... and low and behold, Tawny Met is still shown on it 
So, I reckon it was end of 1973 that Tawny was deleted, not start of 1973.
I've scanned into pdf, and if you want a copy, PM your email and I'll send it.
neutral 3 said:
AEROPILOT, many thanks, had a quick look toight, but too dark to see properly. Half tempted to keep her for myself !!
Will pm you.
The other thing to note from the chart when you read it, is that it would seem to indicate that the vinyl roof colours were either black or tobacco, but tobacco was only an option on Cortina, Consul & Granada models only..... which might make the roof on your not the original vinyl if a Tawny Capri GXL would only come with a black vinyl....?????Will pm you.
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