MK1 3 Litre Capris, How Many Survive ?

MK1 3 Litre Capris, How Many Survive ?

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Longnose

248 posts

114 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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How time flies! When I said "a few years ago" it was almost 40 years ago! This is from 1978 according to a hand-written note on the back of the photo. If you look closely, a previous owner had installed a Zodiac "hood ornament" which never stayed upright. Clearly I forgot to adjust it before this picture was taken. I don't remember the gear ratios or the breathing specifically but it seemed to go pretty well for cars of that time. I think I kept it for a couple of years as an everyday driver and did a couple of camping holidays around the UK. It was a good car and I enjoyed owning it.

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6,503 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Fantastic period photo longnose ! Any more ?

My ageing Capri memory is struggling to recognise the color Green ? Of your old 3 Litre, but it fits well with the light tan interior which was a common ( and a nice option )
My scruffy J reg 3000E ( OPU 534K which I think Ford owned originally I believe ) and which I bought from a pal in June 1982, with front end " lamp post damage " was " Evergreen " a lovely dark Metalic green ( that faded terribly ) and had a white Vinle roof from new and a tan interior.

Your car has the Wipac ? fog and spot lamps which again ? from my poor memory were part of the XLR package. It also has the plain style of Rostyle wheels, but I remember a fair few Capris that had been fitted with the glitzy chrome 1600E Rostyles which were of a different design.

The early 3 Litre Capris had the Zodiac sourced engine, which had a poor design of inlet manifold and a lazy camshaft design and cast exhaust manifolds. They also had poor gear ratios, with a canyon sized gap between second and third. Quoted power was 128bhp and period road test cars would do aprox 113 mph.
However from around Sept 71, the uprated 3 litre arrived, with tubular exhaust manifolds, new camshaft and inlet manifold. Much more responsive, power was now a claimed 138bhp and top speed was about 122mph.
If your number plate was the cars original then it looks as if it was first registered in Buckinghamshire. I think the registration records from Bucks have survived

rscapriman

77 posts

224 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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The car looks to me to possibly be Pacific Blue which would be correct with tan as they only had tan and blue interiors they were also only made for a brief time and your old car seems to fall into that period also Pacific Blue was only used on GTXLR models and 3000E again as per your old car.
She has the more unusual rostyle wheels as per specials and 3000E model(ie with the smaller slots between the spokes)also has an aftermarket vinyl roof not a genuine Ford item again a common practise back then.
Absolutely mint photo brings back soooo many great memories. Thankyou.
RScapriman.

forsure

2,121 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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rscapriman said:
She has the more unusual rostyle wheels as per specials and 3000E model(ie with the smaller slots between the spokes)
My '70 3000GT had those 4-spoke Rostyles; although rare spec (no option packs), it wasn't a 'special'.

Of course it may not have had them from new (it was eight years old when I bought it), but it was otherwise totally original.


Longnose

248 posts

114 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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No more photos I'm afraid. The colour was definitely blue, not green, and it looked very attractive to me with the tan/beige interior. I'm positive it was the original factory colour and not a re-spray because I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. I probably would have kept the car longer but I was transferred overseas with my job, so she had to go. Shame.


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171 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Unfortunately there is no date on this brochure, but I think it's the first 3000E brochure that Ford issued. It states the wheels as being 5" wide track wheels.

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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Tuesday 6th January 2015
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This excellent little InterEurope wheel series manual is dated January 1972, it was with my Mums second 3000E, a J reg auto in Tawny, identical to the one on the front cover. Sadly we can't find the reg no or a photo of it at the moment, but she exchanged it for an Onyx green Cortina 2000GXL auto, with Ken Love, a family friend and well known Essex car dealer.

Ken Love, where are you now ?

neutral 3

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6,503 posts

171 months

Tuesday 6th January 2015
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Note the different Rostyle wheel design in the brochure shot, I don't think the 3 Litre had your style of wheel as std and that your wheels were from a 1600 or 2 litre Capri ?

Note also the new " steel Sports " wheels on the September 71 on, revised / uprated Tawny 3000E.

forsure

2,121 posts

269 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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neutral 3 said:
Note the different Rostyle wheel design in the brochure shot, I don't think the 3 Litre had your style of wheel as std and that your wheels were from a 1600 or 2 litre Capri ?
My '70 3000GT had the same wheels as those on longnose's car.

rscapriman

77 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Hi, yes the wheels are correct on longnose Capri, the problem with sales brochures is they quite often feature items that never actually made it onto the regular model I have 3000 GXL, RS2600 and RS3100 sales brochures all have items on there that deffo never made it into production.
The wheels on the gold 3000E in the brochure are the more common items and were available in 2 widths.
RScapriman.

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Wednesday 7th January 2015
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I'm still not convinced re those wheels being a factory fit for the 3 Litre cars, my Mums first one bought at under a year old ( VEG 97H in Auberghine ) had the brochure Rostyles and the timewarp original H reg Silver one I owned had them too and many other H and J registered 3 Litre cars I saw had the brochure Rostyles as well.

All the K registered ( August 71 - August 72 ) cars I ever saw had the new " sports " type of wheel as per the InterEurope booklet

I had a pal who had a J reg 2 Litre with the other type of wheel.

rscapriman

77 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Those wheels were fitted to early 3000E models but the more common wheels were fitted to GT variants, go back to page 20 of this thread you will see one of each owned by Michael W.
I believe the rarer wheels were also fitted on the vista special models.
RScapriman.

Spitfire2

1,919 posts

187 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Don't think this is a survivor. Old Chap who lives along the road from my mum came over to see my Capri when I parked up a few months ago. Next thing he pulls out photos of some he used to own. He owned this one when it was new - lucky chap.

He couldn't believe it when I told him what it would be worth if he'd kept it in and it was still in that condition.


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aeropilot

34,680 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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Spitfire2 said:
Don't think this is a survivor. Old Chap who lives along the road from my mum came over to see my Capri when I parked up a few months ago. Next thing he pulls out photos of some he used to own. He owned this one when it was new - lucky chap.

He couldn't believe it when I told him what it would be worth if he'd kept it in and it was still in that condition.


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Supplied new by Frew and Company Ltd of Perth I would think, going by the reg number.

Legacywr

12,148 posts

189 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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standardman

424 posts

169 months

Wednesday 7th January 2015
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The special wheels were available as an option, I have a very original 3000gt that has them and was even accidentally booked as a 3000e by the dealer. I have also got Nov 71 brochure that has a sticker stating the availability of the option of special wheels.

Sardonicus

18,962 posts

222 months

Thursday 8th January 2015
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neutral 3 said:
Fantastic period photo longnose ! Any more ?

My ageing Capri memory is struggling to recognise the color Green ? Of your old 3 Litre, but it fits well with the light tan interior which was a common ( and a nice option )
My scruffy J reg 3000E ( OPU 534K which I think Ford owned originally I believe ) and which I bought from a pal in June 1982, with front end " lamp post damage " was " Evergreen " a lovely dark Metalic green ( that faded terribly ) and had a white Vinle roof from new and a tan interior.

Your car has the Wipac ? fog and spot lamps which again ? from my poor memory were part of the XLR package. It also has the plain style of Rostyle wheels, but I remember a fair few Capris that had been fitted with the glitzy chrome 1600E Rostyles which were of a different design.

The early 3 Litre Capris had the Zodiac sourced engine, which had a poor design of inlet manifold and a lazy camshaft design and cast exhaust manifolds. They also had poor gear ratios, with a canyon sized gap between second and third. Quoted power was 128bhp and period road test cars would do aprox 113 mph.
However from around Sept 71, the uprated 3 litre arrived, with tubular exhaust manifolds, new camshaft and inlet manifold. Much more responsive, power was now a claimed 138bhp and top speed was about 122mph.
If your number plate was the cars original then it looks as if it was first registered in Buckinghamshire. I think the registration records from Bucks have survived
The Capri fitted with the Essex never came with cast manifolds only tubular wink the earlier engine had oval window inlet ports and the Zephyr/Zodiac cam and was reluctant to rev over 4.5 K (basically came from the MK4 as is) also that horrible side rail g/box and st ratio's frown where as the late 71> Essex had D shaped inlet ports and an hairier cam profile these would zip round to 5.5k + OK, who remembers the early 69 3.0 GT with the removable die cast bonnet bulge end piece I bet many don't scratchchin off the bonnet in this shot bad pic but ..





Edited by Sardonicus on Thursday 8th January 12:24