Classics left to die/rotting pics

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ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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McClure said:
MarkwG said:
Looks like a peanut to me...Austin A35?
Yeah, that looks about right. I'll stop and try and get a better photo over the weekend.

Nope. It has a painted grille so it's an A30. A35s had chrome grilles.

nicanary

9,795 posts

146 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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JumboBeef said:
This has been here years:

http://goo.gl/maps/ox6YA

Rover.....?
Far more rare than that - I reckon it's a Lagonda 3-litre.

FourWheelDrift

88,537 posts

284 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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nicanary said:
JumboBeef said:
This has been here years:

http://goo.gl/maps/ox6YA

Rover.....?
Far more rare than that - I reckon it's a Lagonda 3-litre.
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Matches this perfectly.

JumboBeef

3,772 posts

177 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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FourWheelDrift said:
nicanary said:
JumboBeef said:
This has been here years:

http://goo.gl/maps/ox6YA

Rover.....?
Far more rare than that - I reckon it's a Lagonda 3-litre.
clap

Matches this perfectly.
What a shame. Worth rescuing....?

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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ClassicMotorNut said:
McClure said:
MarkwG said:
Looks like a peanut to me...Austin A35?
Yeah, that looks about right. I'll stop and try and get a better photo over the weekend.

Nope. It has a painted grille so it's an A30. A35s had chrome grilles.
Apart from am Mazda RX-8 ,i can't think of car with smaller rear doors- most of it forms part of the rear arch

ATTAK Z

11,060 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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ClassicMotorNut said:
McClure said:
MarkwG said:
Looks like a peanut to me...Austin A35?
Yeah, that looks about right. I'll stop and try and get a better photo over the weekend.

Nope. It has a painted grille so it's an A30. A35s had chrome grilles.
Look again ... it's a chrome grille smile

ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

138 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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ATTAK Z said:
Look again ... it's a chrome grille smile
I'm talking about the one in the garden, not the one in McClure's pic. Sorry if I was unclear.

ATTAK Z

11,060 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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ClassicMotorNut said:
I'm talking about the one in the garden, not the one in McClure's pic. Sorry if I was unclear.
:thumbs:

williamp

19,261 posts

273 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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JumboBeef said:
FourWheelDrift said:
nicanary said:
JumboBeef said:
This has been here years:

http://goo.gl/maps/ox6YA

Rover.....?
Far more rare than that - I reckon it's a Lagonda 3-litre.
clap

Matches this perfectly.
What a shame. Worth rescuing....?
Unlikely. THe engine would have gone into a racing Db2/4 like most of the othr sacrificial lagondas, leaving only the shell. They are always on ebay etc but who wants an incmplete car?

oliverb205

705 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Hopefully this hasn't been posted before, an Alvis TD21 I spotted in Southampton yesterday.

Oliver.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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ATTAK Z said:
ClassicMotorNut said:
McClure said:
MarkwG said:
Looks like a peanut to me...Austin A35?
Yeah, that looks about right. I'll stop and try and get a better photo over the weekend.

Nope. It has a painted grille so it's an A30. A35s had chrome grilles.
Look again ... it's a chrome grille smile
The original picture is almost certainly an A35, painted grille (very early A30s had painted grilles without any surround I think) and large rear window. This picture is a bitsa - I would say it started life as an A30 because it has the chrome grille without any surround and semaphore indicators both of which indicate a 30. The large rear window could have been retro fitted and the flashing indicators almost certainly would have been.

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M3DGE

1,979 posts

164 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Fane said:
mehere said:
yes, but also issued as 'age-related' to those to which there isn't or hasn't been a number - eg:- imported or a car made up from parts.

Except that they ran out of SV some while ago - they use BF currently... (!)
Yep. We've got two "SV" cars and a "DS", which iirc was before SV. I saw a 4.5 litre Bentley on a "BF" plate at Silverstone at the weekend. Just looked.... wrong.
Indeed. For older vehicles they use unissued or unfinished two letter registrations; there aren't many 'two letter forward' ones left. SV was issued by Kinross from 1904 onwards but had only reached SV 3722 by 1963; DS was Peebles and reached DS 6396; they also used BS (Orkney) from BS 7778 onwards. BF is interesting - it was issued from BF1 - BF 162 by Dorset in 1904, but because this was deemed to represent 'Bloody Fool' it was withdrawn and all issued plates were changed to FX. So, the whole series is available for sale or as re-registrations.
There are loads of spare 'three letter foward' plates for slightly later vehicles; ASV to YSV, CSU to YSU and BSK to YSK are Scottish examples, and also some Welsh plates (such as KFF).
If a car was re-registered before the mid-70s they tended to just use a current plate, so you get some real oddities - although I think DVLA will re-allocate an age related plate if you ask them nicely. The plates are non-transferable, so can't be sold on.

alpinemauve

352 posts

155 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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^ Interesting for the numberplates.
I am researching cars around 1959 to 1961, at a time where it seems there was a lot of overlapping of styles for instance, the format ABC123 was the norm, but you could have also got 123ABC, although possibly not as common as the former, and then the 'new style' being introduced 1234AB where more common letters had reach their end. It makes it a time where it is difficult to date car accurately.

PS move if required so thread doesn't get hijacked.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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r11co said:
iva cosworth said:




These 2 look a bit neglected
I'm curious to know precisely where these pics were taken, what with the Livornese plates and all....
I was on a trip down the med coast while i was in Italy 2 weeks ago.

Started at Marina di Pisa and finished at Cecina where i think these cars were parked on an

industrial estate just outside the town.


Here's the whole story if interested

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

M3DGE

1,979 posts

164 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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alpinemauve said:
^ Interesting for the numberplates.
I am researching cars around 1959 to 1961, at a time where it seems there was a lot of overlapping of styles for instance, the format ABC123 was the norm, but you could have also got 123ABC, although possibly not as common as the former, and then the 'new style' being introduced 1234AB where more common letters had reach their end. It makes it a time where it is difficult to date car accurately.

PS move if required so thread doesn't get hijacked.
I'll stay here for now, but agree let's start a new thread if others are interested.
It's essentially all about the rate of registrations varying between authorities. By 1964 when the final authorities converted to suffix plates, there were actually 5 formats all in use simultaneously. Nine very rural areas had not exhausted their original 'two letter forward' issues from 1904. Many authorities away from the cities were still issuing 'three letter forwards', which had started in 1932. Many cities were issuing 'three letters reversed' - this had started in 1953; but these were also running out, so in the late 50s some authorities started issuing 'two letter reverse' and also a few issued 'one letter reverse' - 1000 E was the first, issued in 1953; D, F, H, N, R, U and W were also issued reversed.
There are publications and sites where you can find at least the dates between when any combination was issued - PM me if you have any specific requests!

Steff1965

1,128 posts

195 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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richardgrace75 said:
Steff1965 said:
Transit Van lying in a field.

Where abouts is this? Looks like Lake District, but would be interesting to know more.
It's in Perthshire. That's loch earn in the back ground.

52classic

2,529 posts

210 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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IMHO the 'left to die' one is A35 and the restored one is A30. Regardless of the painted or chrome thing, the 35 has a bigger grille. I believe it's the 30 which has the plated grille, the 35 has a painted one with a chrome surround. The surround is all that's left on the rotting car anyway.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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williamp said:
Unlikely. THe engine would have gone into a racing Db2/4 like most of the othr sacrificial lagondas, leaving only the shell. They are always on ebay etc but who wants an incmplete car?
It would be quite cool to drop an LS1 or similar into one, sort out the suspension etc fit cool alloys

ClassicMotorNut

2,438 posts

138 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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52classic said:
IMHO the 'left to die' one is A35 and the restored one is A30. Regardless of the painted or chrome thing, the 35 has a bigger grille. I believe it's the 30 which has the plated grille, the 35 has a painted one with a chrome surround. The surround is all that's left on the rotting car anyway.
Bugger, you're right. I spent all that time getting the grilles the wrong way round.

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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ClassicMotorNut said:
52classic said:
IMHO the 'left to die' one is A35 and the restored one is A30. Regardless of the painted or chrome thing, the 35 has a bigger grille. I believe it's the 30 which has the plated grille, the 35 has a painted one with a chrome surround. The surround is all that's left on the rotting car anyway.
Bugger, you're right. I spent all that time getting the grilles the wrong way round.
Correct although very early A30 had painted grilles without the surround the 35 had.

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