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Loose_Cannon

1,593 posts

254 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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soxboy said:
It was the owner of Guyson who crashed his E-type (near Wetherby) and decided to get it rebodied. Bear in mind this was at a time when the car was not in great demand so not seen as the sacrilege it is now.

Although it certainly hasn't aged well there apparently is not a lot required to revert it back to how it was.
Does the world need another mirror-polished E type Jag? Whilst only fleetingly fashionable at the least the Guyson is different.

andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Loose_Cannon said:
soxboy said:
It was the owner of Guyson who crashed his E-type (near Wetherby) and decided to get it rebodied. Bear in mind this was at a time when the car was not in great demand so not seen as the sacrilege it is now.

Although it certainly hasn't aged well there apparently is not a lot required to revert it back to how it was.
Does the world need another mirror-polished E type Jag? Whilst only fleetingly fashionable at the least the Guyson is different.
I think it would be a real shame if the Guyson car was converted back to standard E-Type - it is a unique representation of design from the time it was rebodied. Although I should also probably admit I like some of the cars William Towns designed, especially the Lagonda. The Guyson E-Type I don't particularly like, however.

The designs from William Towns and Harris Mann have to be judged in period not now - the TR7 wasn't great in closed form but looked good as an open car when it was introduced. Looking at them now, even the closed one looks OK, especially compared to some recent BMWs. The Princess is a design I always liked.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Towns didn't stop with the E type, he did pretty much the same trick, updated to the period, to a couple of XJSs.


GreatGranny

9,128 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
Towns didn't stop with the E type, he did pretty much the same trick, updated to the period, to a couple of XJSs.

hurl

DickyC

49,794 posts

199 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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I think he built his models in hardwood for some reason.

Scale model protoypes in mahogany.

Rum.

jonkers

40 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
Towns didn't stop with the E type, he did pretty much the same trick, updated to the period, to a couple of XJSs.

Jaguar? I thought this was an early DB9 Volante prototype (check out those rear lights)

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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jonkers said:
Jaguar? I thought this was an early DB9 Volante prototype (check out those rear lights)
It was an attempt to revive Railton. It went as far as two mildly restyled XJS prototypes and no further.

Martyn-123

652 posts

186 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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I met William Towns once, he used to have a car show in his grounds which was probably an excuse to promote the Hustler range which were boxy looking things mostly glass and somewhat resembled a fishtank on wheels, even made a 6 wheel version with a jag engine i think

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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jonkers said:
Jaguar? I thought this was an early DB9 Volante prototype (check out those rear lights)
They were something ordinary, Astra or Escort, with a body coloured strip of plastic glued on the middle.

A PHer did a feature o the other one, the red car, a few years ago for one of the classic mags and the strip fell off, iirc.

Yertis

18,060 posts

267 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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andyps said:
I think it would be a real shame if the Guyson car was converted back to standard E-Type - it is a unique representation of design from the time it was rebodied. Although I should also probably admit I like some of the cars William Towns designed, especially the Lagonda. The Guyson E-Type I don't particularly like, however.

The designs from William Towns and Harris Mann have to be judged in period not now - the TR7 wasn't great in closed form but looked good as an open car when it was introduced. Looking at them now, even the closed one looks OK, especially compared to some recent BMWs. The Princess is a design I always liked.
Quite. There was a time, when I was about ten years old, that I though a TR7 was the last word in cool, and that the TR6 was clunky and old fashioned. Now I've rebuilt a TR6, I realise how right I was.

tr7v8

7,192 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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Yertis said:
andyps said:
I think it would be a real shame if the Guyson car was converted back to standard E-Type - it is a unique representation of design from the time it was rebodied. Although I should also probably admit I like some of the cars William Towns designed, especially the Lagonda. The Guyson E-Type I don't particularly like, however.

The designs from William Towns and Harris Mann have to be judged in period not now - the TR7 wasn't great in closed form but looked good as an open car when it was introduced. Looking at them now, even the closed one looks OK, especially compared to some recent BMWs. The Princess is a design I always liked.
Quite. There was a time, when I was about ten years old, that I though a TR7 was the last word in cool, and that the TR6 was clunky and old fashioned. Now I've rebuilt a TR6, I realise how right I was.
That was my view, I could drive the 7 across France & get out without aches & pains, whereas the TR2-6 owners got out needing an osteopath. The 7 V8 was always more reliable as well.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 5th November 2014
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RoverP6B said:
jonkers said:
Jaguar? I thought this was an early DB9 Volante prototype (check out those rear lights)
It was an attempt to revive Railton. It went as far as two mildly restyled XJS prototypes and no further.
As it happens, currently on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Railton-F28-Fairmile-198...




eccles

13,740 posts

223 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
RoverP6B said:
jonkers said:
Jaguar? I thought this was an early DB9 Volante prototype (check out those rear lights)
It was an attempt to revive Railton. It went as far as two mildly restyled XJS prototypes and no further.
As it happens, currently on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Railton-F28-Fairmile-198...
Looks like a really big MX5!

gforceg

3,524 posts

180 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Justayellowbadge said:
In summary, all the benefits of an XJ-S swathed in a, to be kind, quirky new body.

Hmmmm.

soxboy

6,270 posts

220 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Loose_Cannon said:
Does the world need another mirror-polished E type Jag? Whilst only fleetingly fashionable at the least the Guyson is different.
I perhaps should have added that I don't personally think that it should be converted back, just that it apparently is straightforward to do so.

To lose what is a unique and well documented design would be a real shame. It's not like the world is short of E-types, plus the one it was based on wasn't exactly the most sought after.

Also, with a bit more thought to make it look less 'kit car' like it could look an awful lot better.

shakotan

10,709 posts

197 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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Martyn-123 said:
I met William Towns once, he used to have a car show in his grounds which was probably an excuse to promote the Hustler range which were boxy looking things mostly glass and somewhat resembled a fishtank on wheels, even made a 6 wheel version with a jag engine i think
A friend of mine owned both a Hustler Sport (one of two) and a Hustler Six (one of four). The Six certainly never had a V12 engine, still used Mini subframes. He sold it on and it now looks like this.



guru_1071

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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shakotan said:
A friend of mine owned both a Hustler Sport (one of two) and a Hustler Six (one of four). The Six certainly never had a V12 engine, still used Mini subframes. He sold it on and it now looks like this.

one of my customers used to have one of these in white

it looked like a pope mobile

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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shakotan said:
A friend of mine owned both a Hustler Sport (one of two) and a Hustler Six (one of four). The Six certainly never had a V12 engine, still used Mini subframes. He sold it on and it now looks like this.

The Highlander was a Jaguar based evolution of the 6.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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gforceg said:
In summary, all the benefits of an XJ-S swathed in a, to be kind, quirky new body.

Hmmmm.
I'd rather have a bog standard XJS. Such a fantastic looking car. Why Towns felt the need to muck about with it...

soxboy said:
I perhaps should have added that I don't personally think that it should be converted back, just that it apparently is straightforward to do so.

To lose what is a unique and well documented design would be a real shame. It's not like the world is short of E-types, plus the one it was based on wasn't exactly the most sought after.

Also, with a bit more thought to make it look less 'kit car' like it could look an awful lot better.
I'd still convert the Guyson back, simply to rid the world of that crudely-built abomination. Granted, the SIII wasn't as pretty as the six-cylinders, but it's still very pretty. Besides, there are things you can do to the SIII - see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22NTet2n-Sg

alsem

580 posts

191 months

Thursday 6th November 2014
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