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na said:
newdogg06 said:
I would recommend an oil cooler as the 3 bearing crank suffered from bearing failure due to thinning oil. I spent 4 hours sitting by the M1 with a shot engine once. Can't wait to get my MKIII running.
I wouldn't, I 'd recommend first trying regular and thorough oil and filter changes (get the oil as hot as possible and leave to drain as long as possible) and the use of good quality oilif you going with an oil cooler (towing a horsebox?) then have a oil thermostat with it
newdogg06 said:
Your opinion of course, but hundreds of owners can't be wrong. I changed my oil every 2000 miles for the correct grade and it still let go. The second engine was knocking when I sold the car too.
2,000 miles over how many years - no I'm joking 
probably the damage was done before you got the carsand I'm not sure about hundred's of owners not being wrong but I'll not argue about it
newdogg06 said:
The thermostat goes without saying.
many are fitted withouteven if a oil cooler is fitted the 'water' coolant and heating systems need to be clean and in good condition, I don't believe most classics are, and the oil not always thoroughly and regularly changed and engines holding a lot of sludge/muck/crud inside them
then of course there running the car with the timing and mixture causing the car to run hot and labour, possibly with old worn dissys and carbs, ect. . . .
na said:
newdogg06 said:
Your opinion of course, but hundreds of owners can't be wrong. I changed my oil every 2000 miles for the correct grade and it still let go. The second engine was knocking when I sold the car too.
2,000 miles over how many years - no I'm joking probably the damage was done before you got the carsand I'm not sure about hundred's of owners not being wrong but I'll not argue about it
newdogg06 said:
The thermostat goes without saying.
many are fitted withouteven if a oil cooler is fitted the 'water' coolant and heating systems need to be clean and in good condition, I don't believe most classics are, and the oil not always thoroughly and regularly changed and engines holding a lot of sludge/muck/crud inside them
then of course there running the car with the timing and mixture causing the car to run hot and labour, possibly with old worn dissys and carbs, ect. . . .
your specific knowledge and experience of the model far outweighs my general experience so all good stuff and advice
sometimes fitting an oil cooler (not always is the thermostat suggested) is offered to cars that have not been recently rebuilt and/or fully and properly and thoroughly serviced with good quality oils and crudded up water cooling system
treating the symptom not the cause is what I mean
I wonder if using high quality modern oil and having the car in good condition throughout, correctly set up timing and mixture and kept fully serviced might be as long lasting an alternative
many say the Midget 1500 needs an oil cooler (again not mentioning the thermostat) but I had a PHer confirm that his mum had a Midget 1500 without oil cooler from new and used it as an everyday car and for holidays for many years and tens of thousands of miles without trouble
but in many (most?) cases now I will have to concede that fitting an oil cooler with oil thermostat will be the best solution
sometimes fitting an oil cooler (not always is the thermostat suggested) is offered to cars that have not been recently rebuilt and/or fully and properly and thoroughly serviced with good quality oils and crudded up water cooling system
treating the symptom not the cause is what I mean
I wonder if using high quality modern oil and having the car in good condition throughout, correctly set up timing and mixture and kept fully serviced might be as long lasting an alternative
many say the Midget 1500 needs an oil cooler (again not mentioning the thermostat) but I had a PHer confirm that his mum had a Midget 1500 without oil cooler from new and used it as an everyday car and for holidays for many years and tens of thousands of miles without trouble
but in many (most?) cases now I will have to concede that fitting an oil cooler with oil thermostat will be the best solution
New oils may help the problems I experienced with mine nearly 20 years ago. Part of the joy of owning and running a classic! To be fair I had a 1500 Dolly which I think had the same lump as the late Midget (?) and that gave me no problems for a year or so, nor the owner after me.
Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
newdogg06 said:
New oils may help the problems I experienced with mine nearly 20 years ago.
oooh, you devil I thought you meant you'd had the car recentlynewdogg06 said:
Part of the joy of owning and running a classic!
this I do definitly disagrre with classics don't have to be unrelaible and breakdown and if they do they're no fun at allnewdogg06 said:
To be fair I had a 1500 Dolly which I think had the same lump as the late Midget (?) and that gave me no problems for a year or so, nor the owner after me.
I was thinking of the Spitfire 1500 (as per Yorkebar)newdogg06 said:
Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
I don’t think it’s the trouble free miles that’s doing it anyway others will want more photos
LordBretSinclair said:
peteA said:
Loving the gtv but not sure about the wheels....guess they split opinion?
They certainly will . . I'm afraid its a 
from the LBS jury (IMHO).I would not change anything that cannot be put back to standard. So purists need not worry.
I've added a pic with its original wheels.
newdogg06 said:
Lovely! Pimento Red? Restored my MKIV when I was 18/19 and painted it that colour. If you're intending to drive it in a 'spirited' way and if it hasn't already got one, I would recommend an oil cooler as the 3 bearing crank suffered from bearing failure due to thinning oil. I spent 4 hours sitting by the M1 with a shot engine once. Can't wait to get my MKIII running.
It was sprayed as rover vermillion red in about 1989, but has faded to more of an orange colour. the bonnet needs a respray as it has bubbles all over it. but i rebuilt the weber today and it was DIRTY inside. took a quick snap of the inside filter.
some gunge got past this though and was in the float bowls. nice spray of WD40 blasted it all away.
also the previous owner fitted high lift cams, ported head and manifold and an oil cooler. as it was built as a racing engine.
vermillion red is an older BL colour too and they all looked orange
no wonder you want Webbers is the engine is heated up, track engine/cars aren't always the most pleasant to drive on the road but you should go better - once you've got all the crud out
you're perhaps startingb to see now that a lot of servicing and maintenance just boils down to checking, cleaning and lubing
just image how well the whole car might go if you just continued the checking, cleaning and lubing
a good engine and carbs wont make the car go well just by themselves . . . well you know the rest, keep up the good work
no wonder you want Webbers is the engine is heated up, track engine/cars aren't always the most pleasant to drive on the road but you should go better - once you've got all the crud out
you're perhaps startingb to see now that a lot of servicing and maintenance just boils down to checking, cleaning and lubing
just image how well the whole car might go if you just continued the checking, cleaning and lubing
a good engine and carbs wont make the car go well just by themselves . . . well you know the rest, keep up the good work
fabulous said:
I still have the original Momo Vegas(safely stored). I love my current wheels, who knew they would cause such controversy. I have also fitted a Mk 3 Recaro interior as the original orange interior is immaculate and irreplaceable; so is safely mothballed.
I would not change anything that cannot be put back to standard. So purists need not worry.
I've added a pic with its original wheels.
In my opinion those original wheels look sooooooooo much better. But its your car so if you love those ones that is all that matters.I would not change anything that cannot be put back to standard. So purists need not worry.
I've added a pic with its original wheels.
newdogg06 said:
New oils may help the problems I experienced with mine nearly 20 years ago. Part of the joy of owning and running a classic! To be fair I had a 1500 Dolly which I think had the same lump as the late Midget (?) and that gave me no problems for a year or so, nor the owner after me.
Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
Agree on this,personally I wouldn't use anything other than Motul on a classic engine,helped develop the Millers Sport 20/50 years ago but it couldn't stop the cam skew gear wrecking its teeth,switched to Motul Enduro and suddenly started getting four seasons of racing from one cam.As for an oil cooler,fine if the engine is working really hard but dont forget that modern oils dont start working/giving their best until they reach around 100 degrees,you might find that the thermostat will leak as well,great when new,but after a bit of use???Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
na said:
newdogg06 said:
New oils may help the problems I experienced with mine nearly 20 years ago.
oooh, you devil I thought you meant you'd had the car recentlynewdogg06 said:
Part of the joy of owning and running a classic!
this I do definitly disagrre with classics don't have to be unrelaible and breakdown and if they do they're no fun at allnewdogg06 said:
To be fair I had a 1500 Dolly which I think had the same lump as the late Midget (?) and that gave me no problems for a year or so, nor the owner after me.
I was thinking of the Spitfire 1500 (as per Yorkebar)newdogg06 said:
Makes doing 20 thousand trouble-free miles in the Passat seem very dull!
I don’t think it’s the trouble free miles that’s doing it anyway others will want more photos
Had a MKIV 1300, that engine comitted hari-kiri. Put a 1500 Dolly lump in and that was knocking a bit too. Will try and find some pics.
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